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Obama Secretly Urged Iraq To <em>Delay</em> Troop Withdrawal So He Could Get Credit For The Victory
The Patriot Room ^ | September 15, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 09/15/2008 9:05:43 AM PDT by Bill Dupray

If this is true, I don't see how the guy wins even one state in November. From the New York Post.

While campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.

Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.


(Excerpt) Read more at patriotroom.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; foreignpolicy; iraq; islam; mohammedanism; obamabiden; seebreakingnews; troops; withdraw

1 posted on 09/15/2008 9:05:44 AM PDT by Bill Dupray
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To: Bill Dupray

If this is true,

Shouldn’t get TOO excited here. It COULD be a fake story. Just saying.


2 posted on 09/15/2008 9:08:00 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Bill Dupray

He’ll take credit anyway.


3 posted on 09/15/2008 9:09:59 AM PDT by SeanOGuano
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To: DManA
Shouldn’t get TOO excited here. It COULD be a fake story. Just saying.

Correct. The key question being, did the Iraqi Foreign Minister actually say what he's reported has having said.

IF he did so, Obama is toast. Burnt toast.

4 posted on 09/15/2008 9:10:46 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Bill Dupray

Yet another mention shows the story has legs.

Please note the top of Breaking News ;-)

Yet another source (Patriot Room) that picked this up.


5 posted on 09/15/2008 9:12:34 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: r9etb

I think it might take more than one person, but if other Iraqi officials admit Obama did the same thing then this is serious.

How well will it play in the land of the looney left? I don’t know. But it seems like Obama negotiating a delay in bringing home the troops for his own personal benefit, ought to cause second doubts among those anti-war leftists that are really all about the war.


6 posted on 09/15/2008 9:15:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Bill Dupray

It is time for a full independent investigation. Remember the democrat line it is the seriousness of the charge.


7 posted on 09/15/2008 9:15:47 AM PDT by Conservative Actuary
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To: r9etb

Sometimes these guys will say something only to take them back later. But I agree, this would be devistating if it turns out to be true. That’s why the Obamas will pull out all the stops to bury it.


8 posted on 09/15/2008 9:15:47 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Bill Dupray

I was hardly politically cognizant at the time, but didn’t the left and press (same thing) accuse then-candidate Ronald Reagan of having secret meetings with the Iranians about securing the release of the hostages, but only after the election?


9 posted on 09/15/2008 9:20:14 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: RabidBartender

Did Barack’s emmissaries offer the Iraqis “Earth and Water”?


10 posted on 09/15/2008 9:22:54 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: r9etb

I think his statement shows good backup for this story:

http://beta.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2082538/posts?page=335#335


11 posted on 09/15/2008 9:24:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Bill Dupray

IF true, the Iraqis don’t want Obama or this wouldn’t have been leaked.


12 posted on 09/15/2008 9:25:28 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: RabidBartender

MSM won’t play this as an “Obama wanted to stall” story, but instead a “Bush wanted to pull troops pre-election” story.

The enemy isn’t Obama, it is the powerful MSM. Take down the MSM and all Obamas go away, or, rather, cease to be politically relevant.

Convert energy used making the case against Obama to instead make the case against the MSM.


13 posted on 09/15/2008 9:27:15 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Bill Dupray
Instead of writing a vanity, I'm dropping this request here to see if anyone can help me.

At work today, the topic of Obama's race came up and I casually mentioned that I thought he had more North African/Middle Eastern genetic heritage than sub-Saharan Black heritage.

I was immediately slammed.

I KNOW I bookmarked a recent thread where somebody detailed the ethnic background of Obama's father and how Obama was primarily a descendent of Arabic/North African ancestors and not Black ancestors.

Any help out there with sites to this information?

It doesn't really matter; I just didn't enjoy being called a racist idiot.

14 posted on 09/15/2008 9:31:43 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Bill Dupray
So, that's what he went over there for? Israel is not impressed.
15 posted on 09/15/2008 9:32:16 AM PDT by pray4liberty (It's the smile that keeps me out of trouble.)
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To: r9etb
IF he did so, Obama is toast. Burnt toast.

If the conscience of America, aka the MSM, decides to cover and get indignant about it.

Unlikely

16 posted on 09/15/2008 9:40:47 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Bill Dupray

Wasn’t 0be’s medling illegal?


17 posted on 09/15/2008 9:41:59 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: Bill Dupray

Wasn’t 0be’s meddling illegal?


18 posted on 09/15/2008 9:42:14 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: Scoutmaster

Obama is only 6.25% African Native (Federal Standard definition of Black). You must be at least 12.5% of the racial component you claim for minority status. Therefore, is not Black.

Obama is 50% White from his mother’s side, 43.75% Arabic (Omani), and the 6.25% African Native is from his father’s side. This is where he gets his dark pigmentation from.

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html
Barack Obama: Washington Post, Chicago Tribune investigations confirm autobiography lies; now asking: Is “African-American” a lie too?


19 posted on 09/15/2008 9:43:32 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Scoutmaster

Well now. There is a follow up to his article:

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/08/update-on-barak-obamas-and-everybody.html

The Census has changed the rules from 12.5% to “sociopolitical self-identification.”

I think I’m feeling a bit Eskimo today. Maybe I’ll sign up for some benefis.


20 posted on 09/15/2008 9:59:36 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: r9etb; Bill Dupray; Calpernia

“””The key question being, did the Iraqi Foreign Minister actually say what he’s reported has having said........IF he did so, Obama is toast. Burnt toast.”””

Key Question: When do the troops stationed overseas cast their ballots? I’m sure this news will go over like a lead balloon with the limited numbers of guys/gals that were considering backing the treasoness sob.

It’s likely that the date that insures stateside ballot delivery is quickly approaching.


21 posted on 09/15/2008 10:23:08 AM PDT by Gemsbok (CIC means Commmander in Chief,....NOT CommunityOrganizer in Chief)
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To: Gemsbok

Troop votes don’t count. At least here on the East Coast.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEEDA163AF932A15752C1A9669C8B63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Subjects/P/Presidential%20Elections%20(US)
COUNTING THE VOTE: THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS; Review Military Votes, Florida Attorney General Says


22 posted on 09/15/2008 10:36:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Calpernia,
OH, yeah, How can we forget Bob Dole trying to encourage the state not to toss-out the military vote, while they guessed at hanging chads. That article is 8 years old and the problem was with Florida’s Butterworth, algore’s buttwipe, trying to toss the votes to steal the election.

Two elections later, Republicans had better have made better arrangements to count the incoming votes of the military.


23 posted on 09/15/2008 11:12:41 AM PDT by Gemsbok (CIC means Commmander in Chief,....NOT CommunityOrganizer in Chief)
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To: vince2285
Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

IF true, this sorry excuse for a human being should be run out of this country!

24 posted on 09/15/2008 11:18:49 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: Gemsbok

We have hundreds of thousands voting in my state that were born in the 1800s. A lot needs to be fixed with our voting, across the board.


25 posted on 09/15/2008 11:27:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: DManA
The B.O. needs to consider this recent story before denying this or calling it fake!

Allegations of spying by U.S. rattle Iraq

Anyone know how to use the Freedom of Information Act?

26 posted on 09/15/2008 12:48:30 PM PDT by Sefton (I'M ENERGIZED!)
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