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The crash is inevitable, necessary, and not to be feared
personal blog ^ | September 26, 2008 | supercat

Posted on 09/26/2008 5:42:27 PM PDT by supercat

In examining the various plans to deal with the financial crisis, there seems to be a common element: a desire to avoid at all cost the collapse of an interlocked collection of derivative securities which could be called the House of CarDS (credit default swaps). The fear is that the massively tangled web of credit default swaps and other derivative securities will explode like a powderkeg that will destroy the economy if things go sour; because of this fear, the collapse must be prevented at all costs.

That attitude is fundamentally wrong and dangerous. First of all, it allows Americans to be held hostage to any demands financial institutions might make. Fail to do as they say, and they'll drop a match. Secondly, the costs of keeping the House of CarDS from collapsing are going to increase exponentially until it does collapse. Since the collapse is inevitable, it would be foolish to spend trillions of dollars postponing it. Thirdly, a collapse of the House of CarDS would not cause a major loss of value in the assets therein; since the loss has already occurred and has simply not been realized, the collapse would simply represent the acknowledgment of the already-existing loss. Fourthly, the biggest factor in today's credit lockup is that nobody knows what any of the paper assets are worth. If the paper assets in one's account are only worth $0.05 on the dollar, it's better to liquidate them and have $0.05 on the dollar of real assets, than to keep pretending the assets are worth face value when everyone knows they're probably worth less but nobody knows how much.

The first point should be self-explanatory. The second point is not so self-explanatory, but it is both observable empirically and explainable theoretically. I'll return to it later. As for the third third point, consider the following analogy: Joe Banker opens up a bank. Individual account holders are limited to depositing $100,000. The first $10,000,000 that people deposit in are shown on display. Any money that's put in after that goes to the vault in the back. What Joe doesn't tell anyone is that he actually pockets 80% of deposits and send them to secret offshore accounts in Fredonia. Each individual account holders can see that the bank has over $10,000,000 in assets, which is clearly enough to pay him off. What the account holders don't see is that the same assets are being used to back many times their worth in deposits, so even though people have deposited a total of $1,000,000,000 in the bank, there are only about $210,000,000 worth of assets backing them up.

Would a run on the bank cause the people to lose money? Not really. A run on the bank would cause the later depositors to lose everything, but the major loss came when Joe pocketed 80% of the deposits and sent them off to Fredonia. While a bank run would arbitrarily redistribute the losses (so those who withdraw early pass their losses off to latecomers), depositors on average will have lost $0.79 on the dollar before the run even started. The only effect of the run will be a fight over the last $0.21.

Returning to the original second point (exponential cost to prop things up), assume that Joe's Bank hasn't crashed yet, but the reserves are getting low (people who deposit money sometimes have the audacity to withdraw it). So Joe decides he needs to get more depositors. Easy solution: offer higher interest rates. In response to the higher rates, more people deposit the money, and Joe keeps getting more and more money to put in his pocket. Each dollar that Joe takes in and then pays out must be replaced by more than $1. Even if Joe weren't pocketing anything, the payment of interest would require an increase in the rate of deposits. If Joe starts pocketing money for himself as well, that will cause things to escalate rapidly.

On to point number four. Suppose that Acme Plastics has recently borrowed a lot of money to purchase another company which, as it happens, had lots of assets of dubious worth. If those assets are worth $0.10 on the dollar, Acme Plastics is solvent. If they're worth less, it's not. Acme Plastics has an assembly line all set up to produce Tickle Me Paulson dolls, and stores are waiting to receive them. All Mr. Acme has to do is get $100,000 of raw plastic on credit and he'll soon have $1,000,000 worth of merchandise. Unfortunately, since potential creditors have no way of knowing whether Acme Plastics is solvent, they have little desire to lend money and risk having to fight other creditors for its return.

If the crash of the House of CarDS revealed the real value of Mr. Acme's dubious assets to be $0.15 on the dollar, the crash would help Acme Plastics get credit, since he could show that his business was solvent. Even if it showed the value of those dubious assets to be only $0.01 on the dollar, though, it could still be a good thing for the Acme Factory. Markets love gains, but they tolerate losses. What they don't like is question marks. If the assets are shown to be worth $0.01 on the dollar, and that is insufficient to meet obligations to existing creditors, there are many ways to keep the factory open. Creditors may accept a debt-for-equity exchange. Or the business could be liquidated with the factory, intact, bought out by someone who could then supply the raw plastics needed to begin production. Even if none of those desirable things happened and Acme Plastics was disbanded, that wouldn't be much worse than having the company go broke because it couldn't get the credit needed to produce products.

So what do all these points mean? The fundamental danger in today's marketplace is not that there will be a crash, but rather people will act irrationally in an effort to avoid one. Nobody is going to want to see his portfolio drop by $0.50 on the dollar overnight, but throwing in good money after bad in an effort to deny reality is no solution. A lot of the money put into the markets by investors is gone. No amount of hope or optimism will change that. The only way to restore confidence in the markets is to find how much money is gone and how much remains, and then move forward.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; financialcrisis
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I'm not an economist, nor do I play one on television. Nonetheless, since many people seem to think those who call for a market crash are heartless villains, I may as well explain how I see things. I'd like to know what parts if any people disagree with.
1 posted on 09/26/2008 5:42:29 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
We have not hit bottom

The next President will be a one term President.

2 posted on 09/26/2008 5:46:34 PM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: VR4

I think you’re right on the money supercat. The OTC derivatives are the problem. Here’s Karl Denninger’s solution.

http://tinyurl.com/4ht4ns


3 posted on 09/26/2008 5:47:24 PM PDT by VR4 (Remember, Only YOU can prevent low tires.)
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To: supercat

DENIER!

I bet you don’t believe in Global Warmism either, do you.

This debate is settled! Just shut up and hand over your dough to your betters NOW, dammit.


4 posted on 09/26/2008 5:47:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: supercat

Good post and humor!


5 posted on 09/26/2008 5:49:59 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: supercat

Everything is just fine unless you need to borrow money to start a business, buy a car for your son or daughter, buy a house, borrow money to pay for college or replace a refrigerator, the heating/cooling system in your home.

Other than those ‘little’ things we ought to let the system go down the tubes.


6 posted on 09/26/2008 5:50:42 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: Carley

>> Other than those ‘little’ things we ought to let the system go down the tubes.

Credit will tighten (and in my opinion, that’s a GOOD thing).

I don’t think credit will disappear altogether, despite the doomsayers.

Households and businesses have (literally) trillions of dollars in cash on hand. They all need to do something with it. Some of it will go into Treasuries, but with Treasuries yielding next to nothing, how long before cash holders are forced to find something more productive to do with it?


7 posted on 09/26/2008 5:54:39 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: supercat

I’ll be fine.


8 posted on 09/26/2008 5:55:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: cripplecreek
I’ll be fine.

Oh, that's nice to hear. I'm so relieved.

Now what about those of us who are going to have to be looking for a job in the next year? We're not going to be so fine. In face, we may add to the millions who are losing their homes and their equity, and hitting bottom.

9 posted on 09/26/2008 5:59:31 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: supercat

I don’t think there will be much of a crash. we will come out of it stronger in the end and I would hope a few crooks go to jail in spite of the Democrat protection.


10 posted on 09/26/2008 5:59:36 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: ottbmare

Yep, if you lose your job then you’ll stop spending money which results in further job losses.

Enemies are hoping our govt does exactly what you propose.


11 posted on 09/26/2008 6:04:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Carley
Everything is just fine unless you need to borrow money to start a business, buy a car for your son or daughter, buy a house, borrow money to pay for college or replace a refrigerator, the heating/cooling system in your home.

Right now credit is paralyzed because of the toxic paper that's flooding the market. If a prospective lender is holding toxic paper, it can't know how much money it can afford to lend. If a prospective borrower is holding toxic paper, lenders can't tell whether the borrower is solvent. Given that any toxic paper held by a borrower is in effect also held in some measure by the lender, almost everyone in the market is exposed to toxic paper.

The more quickly the toxic paper is cleared from the marketplace, the more quickly the market resume functioning.

12 posted on 09/26/2008 6:05:06 PM PDT by supercat
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To: PGalt
Good post and humor!

Humor? What's so funny?

13 posted on 09/26/2008 6:05:38 PM PDT by supercat
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To: driftdiver
Enemies are hoping our govt does exactly what you propose.

Are you suggesting that it's better to spend trillions of dollars so we can pretend for another year or two that the credit default swaps are worth more than they are (during which time their value will probably continue to decrease)?

14 posted on 09/26/2008 6:07:15 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat

“Are you suggesting that it’s better to spend trillions of dollars”

Despite your creative writing in the initial post and this most recent ‘trillion’ creativity you make no sense.

I’m saying its time to restore confidence in the markets. Socialism caused this mess and unfortunately it will take govt action to get us out. Waiting for a pure market driven solution at this point will only result in the destruction of the United States.


15 posted on 09/26/2008 6:10:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: supercat

We’d be better off letting these banks fall to the level they’ve made for themselves. Add some serious tax cuts and we’ll get over the rough patch pretty quickly. Maybe even a limited morotorium on forclosures for a the duration. (Family homes)


16 posted on 09/26/2008 6:13:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: ottbmare
Now what about those of us who are going to have to be looking for a job in the next year? We're not going to be so fine. In face, we may add to the millions who are losing their homes and their equity, and hitting bottom.

Maybe things will be good for you, maybe they won't. But throwing trillions dollars of good money after bad will leave us in the same situation, except trillions of dollars poorer.

17 posted on 09/26/2008 6:14:16 PM PDT by supercat
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To: driftdiver
I’m saying its time to restore confidence in the markets. Socialism caused this mess and unfortunately it will take govt action to get us out. Waiting for a pure market driven solution at this point will only result in the destruction of the United States.

Some government action is needed, certainly. A billion dollars toward prosecuting fraudsters would be a good start, as would passing rules to ensure an orderly fall of the CDS market (e.g. ensuring that assets get allocated among all claimants, rather than simply going to the earliest ones). I see no reason to believe that any action which does not clear the toxic paper will have any lasting effect, beyond the impoverishment of the American taxpayer.

18 posted on 09/26/2008 6:16:56 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat

Sure prosecution should happen, but it won’t.

This isn’t 1915, if our economy fails so will we. China, Russia, and the Muslims will all step into the power vacuum. We will truly become a 3rd world country.


19 posted on 09/26/2008 6:40:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: supercat

Yup.


20 posted on 09/26/2008 6:54:20 PM PDT by ottbmare
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