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The 14 Biden Debate Lies or Misrepresentations
Right Werds, Korrekt Speech ^ | 10/03/2008 | Bear Nichols

Posted on 10/03/2008 7:43:02 AM PDT by Obamalujah

Here's the list as the McCain Camp put forth:

Joe Biden's 14 Lies

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: biden; debate; palin; vp

1 posted on 10/03/2008 7:43:03 AM PDT by Obamalujah
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To: Obamalujah
He was in Missouri. Where is “targeting” from the prosecutor and sheriff?
2 posted on 10/03/2008 7:46:22 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Obamalujah

Now, now. Isn’t this simply “redistribution of truth”?


3 posted on 10/03/2008 7:49:22 AM PDT by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: Obamalujah
Damn. The only thing going for Biden in the debate was his Washington-talk, but it turns out that his claims were very often WRONG!

Will the drive-by media point this out? Of course not. So it's up to us to e-mail our friends Biden's 14 lies.

The DBM makes me ill.

4 posted on 10/03/2008 7:53:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Obamalujah
Biden: "Again, we spend in three weeks on combat missions in Iraq, more than we spent in the entire time we have been in Afghanistan. That will change in a Barack Obama administration."

I know the budgets of these two theaters....and he is WAY wrong on this. We spend about $9 Billion per three weeks in Iraq...and so far we've allocated $33 billion to Afghanistan. That means $653 billion for Iraq...and about $138 Billion for Afghanistan.

So...we've spent 15X as much in Afg. as we do per 3 weeks. The ratio is $4.73:$1.00

Given ALL that...he said combat missions....not the war itself. So...how do we get the numbers to prove him wrong? I don't know them...other than there is no way it can be true. I know all the flying we continue to do over there...and that costs a lot of money. There is no way we spend as much in 3 weeks as we have done on the entire war in Afgan....UNLESS he is taking a specific 3 week period during the beginning of OIF...or during the surge. Certainly not an average. And that would be misleading.

5 posted on 10/03/2008 8:02:42 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Obamalujah

There’s another one that’s not been mentioned yet.

Joe Biden said -
“Number two, with regard to arms control and weapons, nuclear weapons require a nuclear arms control regime. John McCain voted against a Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty that every Republican has supported.”

But the last portion of this is a lie! All I can find for the Senate is Treaty Doc. 105, voted for on 10/13/1999. Yes, McCain did vote against it, but so did EVERY OTHER Republican senator except 2 (Smith and Specter).


6 posted on 10/03/2008 8:04:52 AM PDT by Martyr Rabbit
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To: Obamalujah

“Well Gwen, two years ago Barack Obama warned about the sub prime mortgage crisis” - Biden

Can anyone confirm this???


7 posted on 10/03/2008 8:13:30 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (`Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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To: Aquinasfan

Don’t forget to add

15. LEBANON: Biden wrongly asserted that France and the U.S. drove Hezbollah from Lebanon.

Someone might want to fact-check his assertion that he and Obama advocated inserting NATO troops into Lebanon. (Besides asking why? if they did.)


8 posted on 10/03/2008 8:20:51 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (For real change stop electing lawyers: Fighter-Pilot/Hockey-Mom '08.)
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To: stocksthatgoup
“Well Gwen, two years ago Barack Obama warned about the sub prime mortgage crisis” - Biden

Can anyone confirm this???


Well, it sure wasn't two years ago. It was last March:

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/

Who didn't know then that we were in the middle of a huge mortgage crisis? It had already started... McCain warned us in 2005 with the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act. And President Bush had been warning Congress since 2001, when finally, they decided to do something this July.
9 posted on 10/03/2008 9:02:43 AM PDT by Martyr Rabbit
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To: Obamalujah

10 posted on 10/03/2008 9:41:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: Obamalujah
Man, take a look at FactCheck's response to the VP debate. It's so shallow that it misses everything here.
11 posted on 10/03/2008 9:51:15 AM PDT by Martyr Rabbit
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To: Obamalujah

Fresh from the McCain people.

JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES DURING THE DEBATE!

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.


NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE GOES JOE BIDEN LYING AGAIN.

12 posted on 10/03/2008 10:11:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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