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Obama's half-sister's name found on "his birth certificate" posted on campaign's official site
Israeli Insider ^

Posted on 10/11/2008 11:56:03 AM PDT by dascallie

Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original By Israel Insider staff August 5, 2008

Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13040.htm

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; issues; obama; obamafamily
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To: Gordon Greene
That may be the point. What if she was the one born in Hawaii and he in Indonesia instead of Kenya?

what route did the plane take from Kenya to Hawaii they took before Aug 4, 1961?

101 posted on 10/11/2008 1:13:54 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: beaversmom

It proves that somebody sent a notice to the paper about a child born to the Obama’s in 1961. Trust me, if it’s authenticated, it would be admissible as evidence.


102 posted on 10/11/2008 1:14:38 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: newfreep

Obama’s father was NEVER a U.S. citizen.......and speculaton is that he was born in Africa.......the Indonesian stepfather came later and fathered his half-sister. If he has an original birth certificate, then why not produce it and end this?


103 posted on 10/11/2008 1:15:24 PM PDT by tioga
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To: popdonnelly
It proves that somebody sent a notice to the paper about a child born to the Obama’s in 1961. Trust me, if it’s authenticated, it would be admissible as evidence.

if a hospital sent it, or a reporter got the info from the hospital, there should be a long form with Obama jr.'s footprints still at the hospital.

104 posted on 10/11/2008 1:16:25 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Mr. Know It All
I think you have to live there 6 months or something.

He lived there most of his life.
105 posted on 10/11/2008 1:16:40 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: tsmith130; Polarik
I'll have to let Polarik answer that one. He's been documenting his involvement in the whole affair.

You might want to search his posts to find his accounts of the story.

-PJ

106 posted on 10/11/2008 1:17:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Brown Deer

Were they born at the same time?

If you can change names on a doc, you can change dates... then maybe I’m not following it close enough. Or maybe we need to ask for the COLB’s for all of the other 483 Soetoro kids...

Glad you got a kick out of it anyway... GG


107 posted on 10/11/2008 1:17:43 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

the Indonesian stepfather came after Obama was born....his mother did think she was married to Obama’s father, Obama, at the time. the mother followed the second husband to Indonesia and that union produced the halfsister.


108 posted on 10/11/2008 1:17:54 PM PDT by tioga
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To: popdonnelly
It proves that somebody sent a notice to the paper about a child born to the Obama’s in 1961.

Yeah, we know he was born, but where is the question. That announcement has no evidence about the location of the birth that I can see.

109 posted on 10/11/2008 1:17:59 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: autumnraine
I've read all this stuff. I just don't buy it.

I know, I know, I'm a heretic.

I find FactCheck to be a useful source of information. Of course, they haven't said anything bad about Bob Barr, so maybe I'm biased.

Or maybe Bob Barr is just honest.
110 posted on 10/11/2008 1:18:13 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Mr. Know It All

long form with the baby’s footprints is the key -


111 posted on 10/11/2008 1:19:46 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Political Junkie Too

Will do. Thanks!


112 posted on 10/11/2008 1:21:32 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Mr. Know It All; All

Looking at what they had to go on, I don’t see any way they could extrapolate any “leftover” information. There’s just not enough to go on with the Hi-Res image from factcheck.org.

That being said, the hatchmarks seem to muddy up around most of the typing. That’s definitely suspect.

There’s just way too much about the guy that’s crapola to be concentrating on this to take him out of the race.


113 posted on 10/11/2008 1:22:38 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: spacejunkie01
Thou doth protest too much about Obama’s origin of birth.
No, I protest people wasting their time and energy on these fantasies while there's a hard-fought campaign going on in the real world. This certificate stuff will be nothing more than a footnote about silliness that occurred in the 2008 election.

It will be about as historically important as the widespread allegations that Thomas Jefferson was an agent of the Bavarian Illuminati that surfaced in the election of 1800.
114 posted on 10/11/2008 1:23:29 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: tsmith130

TECHDUDE, THE COLB and “Reasonable Suspicion”
Atlas Shrugs ^ | August 11, 2008 | Pamela Geller
Posted on August 11, 2008 7:41:52 PM EDT by Amityschild

I have heard from “Techdude”.

“My family is now being harassed and threatened. She [his wife] is absolutely terrified and is afraid to leave the house or even go to work. She is begging me to stop and I am going to listen to her. I cannot endanger my family any further.”

I don’t blame him. I know what the harassment is like. You develop a thick skin fast if you toil in the blogosphere, believe me, you have to. Most normal people are stunned by the vicersal, ad hominem attacks one must deflect or ignore.

Frankly, he did what was required of him. He proved the COLB a forgery.


115 posted on 10/11/2008 1:24:21 PM PDT by dascallie
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To: tsmith130; pissant
That still makes no sense. If she was born in Indonesia, why would she have a COLB from Hawaii that they would use to then forge a COLB for Obama?

Any memeber of his family at the time could make a sworn statement to that effect, and thereby get American citizenship for Barry.

116 posted on 10/11/2008 1:26:17 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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Sorry, I meant for Maya.


117 posted on 10/11/2008 1:27:18 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: tioga

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


118 posted on 10/11/2008 1:27:22 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Mr. Know It All

Appears there are a few things you don’t know.

Mr. Occasionally Correct.

If you aren’t interested in this, find another thread. The McCain camp isn’t behind this. Others are.


119 posted on 10/11/2008 1:27:50 PM PDT by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: Mr. Know It All
I don't expect it to go anywhere because well only Sarah gets hit with probe findings B4 the election. I expect the suit to get dismissed after the election.

Also, I don't know what to make of it. There are other factors involved, not just the birth cert, how many names he used, how he answered the app to the IL BAR, his passport & more, don't know what Berg might have up his sleeve, not that it is necessarily valid.

Notice that there is a 9-day delay from the supposed date of his birth to the announcement in the paper which wouldn't be so much back then, but it is over a week. Usually occam's razor applies.

When I went to pick up some tickets at the local GOP hqs, the worker didn't know anything about Berg's lawsuit, but the lady waiting next to me mentioned Corsi's book, claimed he had dual citizenship (don't think that would necessarily disqualify him).

He has to have applied for various passports, and you need a birth cert to get one. We know he has a current one because he has travelled out of the country to Kenya, Germany and years ago to Pakistan. Think he also went to Iraq, can't remember where else.

120 posted on 10/11/2008 1:28:01 PM PDT by Aliska
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