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Are Conservatives Facing Another 1964?
FREEPers | 10/24/08 | Recovering_Democrat

Posted on 10/24/2008 8:52:10 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

Fellow Freepers, I know all hope is not lost. And I do believe our numbers are stronger than the media says.

Though I do wonder if we are facing another 1964. In the sense that we have a Republican Arizona senator facing the onslaught of a liberal Democrat, liberal media and liberal Congress.

I do NOT believe John McCain represents conservatism the way Barry Goldwater represented our ideas. But I think we may be in for a "long, hard slog", as Rumsfeld once put it in another context.

The socialists/big tax and spenders may seize our government in January. And with the press and voter fraud on their side, they may hold power for a long, long time.

We spent 16 years...from 1964 until 1980...until a true conservative went into the White House. Will we not see another until 2024??

What say you?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 1964; dramaqueen; goldwater; handwringingthread; wilderness
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1 posted on 10/24/2008 8:52:12 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I say that you a nattery nabob of negativity. I would be too if I read Politico and the Washington Compost.


2 posted on 10/24/2008 8:53:55 AM PDT by Perdogg (Raila Amollo Odinga - community organizer)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

In 1964, there was a conservative running for president.


3 posted on 10/24/2008 8:54:30 AM PDT by nufsed
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Oh good grief. Not only another handwringing drama queen, but one that posts a vanity! Yipppeeeee!!!

If the election were held tomorrow, McCain/Palin would win rather comfortably. Obama's only hope now is some type of DUI-like October/November surprise.

4 posted on 10/24/2008 8:54:36 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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The socialists/big tax and spenders may seize our government in January.

Actually it may be given to them by an illiterate self-obsessed electorate.

5 posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:39 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: impeachedrapist; Recovering_Democrat

I love the concern these drama queens (as you so drolly put it) have once the polls start to TIGHTEN. Instead of talking about how wonderful the trend has been for McCain, the large # of undecideds, etc... it’s hand-wringing.

Fascinating stuff really.


6 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:09 AM PDT by rom (Keep Senator Government from Spreading YOUR Wealth! McCain/Palin '08!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Are Conservatives Facing Another 1964?

Hardly. The opponent we are facing in Barak Obama is much more dangerous to the nation than the one we were facing in 1964.

7 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:10 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

If obama is elected and comes up with a fraud BC, then I don’t think the US as we know it will be intact in 16 years.


8 posted on 10/24/2008 9:00:05 AM PDT by Doug TX
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To: Recovering_Democrat

No. The GOP may be facing a loss against Zero, but conservatism is a different matter, not to be confused with the GOP. The “1964” type loss for conservatives came much earlier this year, when McCain clinched the nomination.


9 posted on 10/24/2008 9:00:56 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: rom
We're facing another 2004, not 1964. We went through these same spasms back then.

Remind me again, please. How big was President Kerry's margin of victory?

10 posted on 10/24/2008 9:05:46 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
So the polls are tight and your screaming like chicken little.

Stop believing the OBama talking points peddled by the Obama front groups AP, Politico ,Compost, CNN !

11 posted on 10/24/2008 9:06:00 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I for one am certainly not planning for any big celebrations on Tuesday night, Wednesday morning.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly shocked, but I seriously doubt it.

12 posted on 10/24/2008 9:06:21 AM PDT by jpl (Does anybody have seven hundred billion dollars I can borrow?)
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sounds like you need to get back into your Democrats Anonymous meetings.

We are going to win. Conservatives have huge influence in the country. And we have up and comers who know how to progress the conservative agenda by speaking directly to the people.

PS- Cancel that WEEKENDER subscription to the New York Times. That Sh!t will kill you


13 posted on 10/24/2008 9:06:32 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Obama/Biden '08, in and of itself, A Bridge To Nowhere)
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To: impeachedrapist

I am in SE FL and pretty hard core Dems who had Kerry signs in their yard plus Gore signs have McCain signs. My guess is many of these people never voted Repub.

Hillary beat Obama like a red headed stepchild in FL, OH and PA. Obama was not far behind 3rd place Edwards in FL.

A lot of those Hillary voters know Obama cheated and many are not voting for Obama for a variety of reasons including race.


14 posted on 10/24/2008 9:11:33 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I say, stop the navel gazing.

We fight until Election Day. If we lose, we keep fighting.

By now you should know that the MSM does not exist to inform, it exists to mold opinion. It's working on you.

This is no time to go wobbly.

15 posted on 10/24/2008 9:12:44 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (This is no time to go wobbly.)
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To: impeachedrapist

The GOP is facing one big demographic problem: hispanics. The hispanic vote is going to look more and more like the black vote, so within a couple of election cycles you’re going to see about 35 percent of the electorate off-limits to the GOP.

Blacks and hispanics who vote Democrat do so for one reason: more free stuff. And the Democrats will always offer more free stuff.

Any future GOP electoral victories can only arise from their recieving 70 plus percent of the white, non-jewish vote. The problem is that the white vote is getting more and more single/non-married, and that demographic has trended Democratic for a long time.

Comparing this election to 1964 is idiotic given the completely different demographic realities.


16 posted on 10/24/2008 9:12:47 AM PDT by CinnaBombs
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17 posted on 10/24/2008 9:15:11 AM PDT by mysterio
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McCain is not a conservative.


18 posted on 10/24/2008 9:15:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: nufsed

And LBJ was probably more conservative than the Republican candidate for President...


19 posted on 10/24/2008 9:18:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (Joe the Plumber. He's our only hope... God help him.)
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To: impeachedrapist

> McCain/Palin would win rather comfortably

Denial is the most predictable of all human response.

McCain is behind in almost every catagory that matters in gaining the electoral votes needed to win.

Period.


20 posted on 10/24/2008 9:19:05 AM PDT by bill1952 (Obama-the only one who can make me vote McCain McCain-the only one who can make me stay at home)
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