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Obama's Birth Certificate and The Supreme Court
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Posted on 11/13/2008 3:42:08 AM PST by gaggs

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Mr. Obama, his petition for an injunction to stay the Nov. 4 election was denied, but the clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by Dec. 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Mr. Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the justices, unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

"I can see a unanimous court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution ..."

Also remember on Dec. 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; obamagate
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Maybe it's not over. Did anyone hear the fat lady sing yet? There may be nothing to this but after the amount of bitching and whining the Democrats and their Liberal counterparts in the media did for 8 years over Bush winning Florida, I think this deserves a good amount of coverage.
1 posted on 11/13/2008 3:42:09 AM PST by gaggs
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PRAYERS FOR SANITY AND PATRIOTISM on the Court.


2 posted on 11/13/2008 3:45:26 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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The democrats have spent a lot of money on this. I can’t help but wonder why they’ve been so quiet about it.


3 posted on 11/13/2008 3:47:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Very interisting could be something the country hasn’t seen befor.


4 posted on 11/13/2008 3:48:29 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: gaggs
At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

No he doesn't. Obama's legal team has until December 1st to respond to Berg's suit. Their response will no doubt be a carbon copy of their response to the lower court suit - frivilous, lacks standing, so forth. Then Berg will respond to their response, and so forth and so on. Then the Supreme Court will dismiss it.

5 posted on 11/13/2008 3:55:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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As much as I'd loved to see this happen, the backlash could be incredible.
6 posted on 11/13/2008 3:58:03 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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I have a strong suspicion that what’s on the birth certificate is an embarrassment, not a reason for barring Obama from the presidency. It may identify the child’s race as Caucasian, it may list the wrong father, something like that.


7 posted on 11/13/2008 4:02:58 AM PST by ottbmare
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Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate And a the Court defines an authentic BC as???
8 posted on 11/13/2008 4:04:24 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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it may list the wrong father,

daddy’s not really BHO sr.

BHO II has assumed this name as part of his romanticized black “identity” journey.

He is either legally named Barry Soetoro or Barry Dunham. IMO


9 posted on 11/13/2008 4:09:11 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: gaggs

LOL! You people amaze me! do you have any other sources or evidence other than on a spurious blog this “news” is even true?


10 posted on 11/13/2008 4:09:43 AM PST by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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Don't trust the Supreme Court clerk, he has been sabotaging a similar effort by mucking up the docket to deny a similar case from being looked at.

READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!

It is entirely possible similar methods were used to sabotage Berg's case and that the word of the Clerk is a complete and total fabrication designed to delay any further litigation until it is too late, especially if nothing is in writing.

11 posted on 11/13/2008 4:09:53 AM PST by usmcobra (Go ask Obama for your change, and don't bug me!)
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To: cripplecreek
Simple ... they dont want us to know that this is all a grand scheme by Hillary to take the Presidency. You see, once the top of the ticket is removed, the electoral college will be free to vote their conscience and guess who will step in to “SAVE” the party.
12 posted on 11/13/2008 4:12:57 AM PST by taxcontrol
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Doesn't matter.
Barry is the First Black American President, haven't you heard?
He can do no wrong
Laws don't apply to him.
Just ask any leftist POS democrat.
13 posted on 11/13/2008 4:15:21 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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In this case the Supreme Court is not the trier of fact. It rules only on a matter of constitutional law. The court has no need for evidence. It will limit itself only to the legal issues raised in the lower court. The Supreme Court doesn't need a copy of the birth certificate as they are in no position to determine its validity. That's what custodians and experts do that the trial court level.

My guess is the petition for a writ of certiori will be denied. The petitioner lacks standing. I also believe that it is not a justiciable matter. It is a political question. Only the Congress "qualifies" someone to be president. It is the first order of business when the new Congress convenes in January.

The case also fails on account of ripeness. Barack Obama was not elected president on November 4th. Only electors were chosen on November 4th. And the electors have not yet selected the next president. They convene in 51 separate "colleges" next month to cast their ballots. We won't know "oficial" results until January when the new Congress convenes in joint session and receives the electoral college certificates. At that point it takes the objection of at least one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives for the Congress to bring the matter to debate. The vote of the Congress is final. There is no role for the Supreme Court to intervene.(Just as the Supreme Court could not review a impeachment.)

14 posted on 11/13/2008 4:24:07 AM PST by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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Well the MSM is not going to give any coverage to this issue or O’s failure to disclose other records, (medical, university, travels, associations..etc ad nauseum) so where are the Republican patriots that have loads of cash and could mount a fast campaign to get the word out independently? A real effort by some of them would generate huge amounts from us regular guys...but as I see it they don’t give a rats A. So O will take office...the constitution will have been trampled over again..and this is the result:
America... born July 4, 1776 Died Nov 4, 2008..of Suicide


15 posted on 11/13/2008 4:25:34 AM PST by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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I believe that 0bama will not give in to the courts and continue to generate a controversy that will led to a class conflict.

If he does - for what ever reason - provide that B.C. - and it is determined that he is not a natural born citizen as stated in the US Constitution - the courts will have to make the determination to either support what was written over 200 years ago - or fall victim to the minority of liberals that will label them racist.

Regardless, the Islamic groups that have supported him will then fund other radicals within the US to demonstrate, the main streamers will also hold long discussions on this matter, and through an overload of BULLSH*T cause want-a-be law makers to propose a change in the US Constitution.

This is the overall goal of Islam tearing down the traditional fabric of the U.S. and replacing it with laws that water down that which has held the US above all other countries, dictatorships, and empires.

This is only the beginning...

Begun - the Jihad Wars have


16 posted on 11/13/2008 4:26:16 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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the electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.

No one can order an elector how to vote. Electors are not duty-bound, they are honor-bound to vote a certain way, but they are free to vote their individual conscience. Since only persons trusted by the candidates are ever put on the slate of electors it is only rarely they an elector votes another way.

17 posted on 11/13/2008 4:28:59 AM PST by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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Ping for later


18 posted on 11/13/2008 4:31:02 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

yes - trust me this could go on for years.

this is the way our wonderful legal system is designed - to make lawyers money while delivering no justice.


19 posted on 11/13/2008 4:34:32 AM PST by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: wolfcreek

Backlash be damned, seeing that the constitution is upheld is more important than catching the democrats defrauding millions out of their rightfull vote. The fact that Roger Calero, an admitted non citizen was on several state’s ballots shows that there’s a serious problem.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 4:35:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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