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Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?
DebbieSchlussel.com ^ | November 13, 2008 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 11/13/2008 6:49:03 AM PST by ml/nj

Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?

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As the retired federal agent notes:

Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue. That would mean that this DLN was issued in 2008. The DLN on the computer screen printout is the exact same number, except the 0 and 8 have changed positions making it a 1980 DLN number. And 1980 is the year Senator/President Elect Obama is said to have timely registered. So, why does the machine-stamped DLN reflect this year (2008) and the DLN in the database (which was manually input) reflect a "corrected" DLN year of 1980? Were all the DLNs issued in 1980 erroneously marked with a 2008 DLN year or does the Selective Service use a different DLN system then the rest of the Federal Government? Or was the SSS Form 1 actually processed in 2008 and not 1980?
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1 posted on 11/13/2008 6:49:04 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Well, at least he registered.

After all, 47 year old’s “might” get drafted.

Did the MSM track down Obama’s National Guard service time in Alabama? I remember them looking ever-so-closely at Bush’s paperwork.... 8<)


2 posted on 11/13/2008 6:53:48 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: ml/nj

Hard to register for selective service from another country I guess.


3 posted on 11/13/2008 6:55:37 AM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: ml/nj

again, non issue as this will only stay in the blog-o-sphere. There is no one that will look into this or any other issues surrounding Bobble headed Barack. If they won’t look at how he raised all that cash knowing just how lax he was then we can all correctly assume that he is like teflon. Bill Clinton only wishes he could skate like Barack.


4 posted on 11/13/2008 6:59:31 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: ml/nj

- - bump


5 posted on 11/13/2008 7:10:51 AM PST by tomkat ( . . preparing to shrug . .)
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To: ml/nj

Didn’t register for the draft? How dare he! Big deal, he still knows where Africa is, so it won’t make it to the MSM if it is true.


6 posted on 11/13/2008 7:19:22 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Not my President, Remember, Decent is Patriotic!)
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To: ml/nj

It just keeps on coming. In looking at the docs at the link, there is virtually no doubt that this is yet one more instance of outright fraud from The One Machine. Add it to the long list of things the masses will never know. The MSM won’t dare cover it, and the masses are too apathetic to spend an hour researching a presidential candidate for themselves.

As a Christian, I have for many years hung on to God’s promise that if those who are called by His name will turn from sin and seek His face, He will heal our land. IOW, we don’t need the whole country to turn and seek in order for the USA to be healed, only American Christians. Unfortunately, a record number of those who call themselves Christians just cast their vote for evil. They turned away from God and to wickedness, the polar opposite of the requirement for divine healing in our country. Bottom line: It ain’t looking good.

MM


7 posted on 11/13/2008 7:22:59 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: ml/nj

Hussein “The Shyster” Obama.


8 posted on 11/13/2008 7:23:51 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: ml/nj

I have never believed a conspiracy theory in my life but I truly believe this guy is a phony. The preponderance of blog analysis is not what makes me believe he is a fraud. It is the hiding of common information that convinces me. It is the blatant inattention by the media while performing rectal exams to common citizens who dare ask him a question. I would not hire an employee who fails to produce his birth, medical, college, adoption and passport records. I certainly wouldn’t hand the control of the nation to him.


9 posted on 11/13/2008 7:24:06 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: RockyMtnMan
Hard to register for selective service from another country I guess.

I did! At the American Embassy...

10 posted on 11/13/2008 7:24:12 AM PST by gridlock (Don't blame me... I voted for Palin!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

It only stays in the blogosphere if no newsworthy person takes up the issue. If one of the Republicans tearing each other apart could speak on this, or maybe a few of them at the Governor’s Conference, then the msm would have to report it. Maybe Newt, who could go toe to toe with Obama and come out standing.


11 posted on 11/13/2008 7:26:29 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Right now it is; but sooner or later it will catch up with Obambi.


12 posted on 11/13/2008 7:27:42 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: ml/nj
Hmmmmmmm.....so he may have not registered in the required Selective Service,
.....BUT he may be planning for American youths' (18-25) mandatory registration in his Civilian Defense Service.

13 posted on 11/13/2008 7:32:40 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: ml/nj
It seems to me on the basis of my two son's numbers that Obama's serial number part of his reported Selective Service number indicates it was issued in November 2001.

I contacted the Selective Service via email, and the respondent from them claimed that the part which appears to be a serial number is just a random number. But that doesn't make much sense - that would be inconsistent with most other government number issuing systems that I am aware of.

14 posted on 11/13/2008 7:34:14 AM PST by bvw
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To: ml/nj

As part of his Illinois Bar Application wouldn’t he be asked about illegal drug usage? Anyone want to bet a false answer was given on that application?

Its amazing how thoroughly his past life has been scrubbed and how few have any interest in digging into it. Closest thing to a Manchurian candidate that we have ever seen.


15 posted on 11/13/2008 8:00:26 AM PST by RonboTex (Go ahead... Make my day.)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Maybe Newt, who could go toe to toe with Obama and come out standing.

I would not count on Newt prevailing against Obama. Clinton easily packaged Newt as the hindrance, the reason for the 1995 Government shutdown/furlough.

IMHO...
Newt did not present any case to the contrary.

Newt had successfully formulated the 'Contract With American in the 1993 congressional elections. But his success, his influence was short lived. Clinton outfoxed, out maneuvered Newt numerous times.

16 posted on 11/13/2008 8:16:05 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Well, at least he registered. After all, 47 year old’s “might” get drafted.
***I registered around the same time as Obama but my paperwork supposedly got lost. So when my financial aid for college was denied due to the paperwork snafu, I simply tried to register again. But I was too old at 33. So he could not have registered at 47, unless the rules have changed since then.


17 posted on 11/13/2008 8:46:52 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo
***I registered around the same time as Obama but my paperwork supposedly got lost. So when my financial aid for college was denied due to the paperwork snafu, I simply tried to register again. But I was too old at 33. So he could not have registered at 47, unless the rules have changed since then

That's what makes me doubt this story. Obama received financial aid/student loans for college & law school, something he could not have done if he were not registered.

18 posted on 11/13/2008 9:31:02 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: STARWISE; SE Mom; Miss Didi; rodguy911

WOW! PING YOUR LISTS!!


19 posted on 11/13/2008 9:49:37 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“Obama received financial aid/student loans for college & law school,”

How do we know that? Just because he told us? He has not released any of his college documents either from what I understand.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 9:51:21 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: freekitty

For all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Matthew 26:52


21 posted on 11/13/2008 10:04:02 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

You’ve seen his loan records from his college days??? Please share them with us.


22 posted on 11/13/2008 10:04:39 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ml/nj

Thanks for the thread, ml/nj. Debbie Schlussel has done some good investigative work here. Now if she would combine this with O’s birth certificate issue, we might just get somewhere.


23 posted on 11/13/2008 10:07:55 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: ml/nj

He was born in August 1961. Supposedly he filed with Selective Service in July 1980. According to the law, you are required to file 30 days before or within 30 days after your 18th birthday. Obama turned 18 in 1979, not 1980. We know he was in Hawaii in ‘79 because that is the year he graduated from Punahou School. According to this info, he was actually 19 when he “allegedly” filed, which would have put him in violation of the law back then.


24 posted on 11/13/2008 10:33:14 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Obama received financial aid/student loans for college & law school,

From Indonesia? From Kenya? There is a good chance he was registered as a foreign student at Occidental. One more reason for him to hide his school records.

25 posted on 11/13/2008 10:41:06 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: mass55th
According to the law, you are required to file 30 days before or within 30 days after your 18th birthday. Obama turned 18 in 1979, not 1980.

Except that you weren't required to register at all until 1980.

Quoting wikipedia:

Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960.

so Obama wouldn't have registered in 1979 because he was not required to.

26 posted on 11/13/2008 10:46:41 AM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: ml/nj

While I applaud the efforts in seaking the truth, I doubt that any of this will ever change anything.

I am convinced that Zero could be filmed eating live babies and nothing would ‘change’. He’s a dem, a lib and he’s black... he’s bullet proof.


27 posted on 11/13/2008 10:47:18 AM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Gator113

bullet proof = bulletproof.


28 posted on 11/13/2008 10:48:27 AM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: mass55th

According to this

http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/MSSA-2003.pdf

scroll down to 1-103 and you’ll find that he was required to register in the six days starting July 28, 1980.

There was no SSS to register with in 1979.


29 posted on 11/13/2008 10:52:03 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: LucyT; Calpernia; SE Mom

More mystery from the magic negro


30 posted on 11/13/2008 10:54:59 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Roccus; mass55th

Make that “scroll down to Sec. 453 1-103”


31 posted on 11/13/2008 10:56:48 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: ml/nj

On the image at the link it shows that no ID was presented. Yet in Sec. 453 1-302 of my link in post #29 it states that “reasonable identification” is required.


32 posted on 11/13/2008 11:05:25 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: ml/nj

On the image at the link it shows that no ID was presented. Yet in Sec. 453 1-302 of my link in post #29 it states that “reasonable identification” is required.


33 posted on 11/13/2008 11:06:40 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: ml/nj

On the image at the link it shows that no ID was presented. Yet in Sec. 453 1-302 of my link in post #29 it states that “reasonable identification” is required.


34 posted on 11/13/2008 11:07:42 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: Vroomfondel; Roccus

Thanks for the clarification.


35 posted on 11/13/2008 11:19:07 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: penelopesire

Even if he did say yes he had registered for the draft, and even if he showed them the document, they would not scrutinize it. They would glance at it to confirm that yes this is a draft document and yes his name is on it and they would shuffle it into his file.


36 posted on 11/13/2008 11:25:07 AM PST by Hanna548 (s)
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To: ml/nj

Why is FR counting 36 replies yet I only see up to 31?


37 posted on 11/13/2008 11:29:25 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Roccus

When did Obama change his name? And did he do that officially?


38 posted on 11/13/2008 11:30:55 AM PST by Hanna548 (s)
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To: pissant

I’d like to see those as well, but I don’t think they are a matter of public record.


39 posted on 11/13/2008 11:32:44 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: ml/nj

When did Obama change his name, and did he do it officially?


40 posted on 11/13/2008 11:39:08 AM PST by Hanna548 (s)
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To: ml/nj
Obama exclusively went to expensive private colleges. He claimed he went to college through the use of financial aid. He would not have been able to get federal guaranteed student loans, federal grants, or likely state guaranteed student loans without registering.

I think Obama would have been pragmatic enough to register in order to get financial aide. Now of course, his grandma the banker could have arranged a student loan for him.

But I don't think there is any "here" here.

The "Date of Registration" in the SSS computer is not the date the registration card is filled out. It is the date the information is entered in the computer. My "Date of Registration" shows October 24th, 1984, over two months after my 18th birthday. The 24th was a Wednesday, and I was likely in college that weekday. Also, I was in ROTC, received a Pell Grant, and was working in the college work/study program (part of the Federal Student Aid program) so I assume I would have registered before starting college. I also seem to remember registering the day before my 18th birthday, which makes sense since my birthday was on a Saturday that year.

41 posted on 11/13/2008 11:45:00 AM PST by magellan (u)
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To: Gator113
I am convinced that Zero could be filmed eating live babies and nothing would ‘change’. He’s a dem, a lib and he’s black... he’s bullet proof.

Agreed. It doesn't matter to them what the Dark Lord (aka "He Who Must Not Be Named" aka BHO) has done, is doing, or will do. If we do find out he was born in Kenya it will NOT matter to Obamabots. They will call for the Constitution to be changed.
42 posted on 11/13/2008 12:02:34 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
"That's what makes me doubt this story. Obama received financial aid/student loans for college & law school, something he could not have done if he were not registered."

Suppose he was here on a student visa.

Could that also be why he won't release his college records?

44 posted on 11/13/2008 12:48:01 PM PST by OldEagle
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
"That's what makes me doubt this story. Obama received financial aid/student loans for college & law school, something he could not have done if he were not registered."

Suppose he was here on a student visa.

Could that also be why he won't release his college records?

45 posted on 11/13/2008 12:49:26 PM PST by OldEagle
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“something he could not have done if he were not registered.”

Do foreign students need to register for the draft?


46 posted on 11/13/2008 1:30:45 PM PST by DBrow (NUMA!)
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To: ml/nj

Anyone who registered in Hawaii around the same time should be able to get their record and compare to this.

Anyone Freeper from the Aloha State up for it?


47 posted on 11/13/2008 2:01:05 PM PST by erk
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To: TexasGreg
If we do find out he was born in Kenya it will NOT matter to Obamabots. They will call for the Constitution to be changed.

I'm starting to think this was all a conspiracy to pave the way for President Schwarzenegger.

</tinfoilhat>

48 posted on 11/13/2008 2:44:55 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: ml/nj

Sorry ‘bout that post in triplicate. FR got funky and then crashed for me.


49 posted on 11/13/2008 2:47:06 PM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: Hanna548

I agree, but I was actually replying to another’s comment that Obama must have had ‘registered’ for selective service because he recieved college loans. My point being that we don’t know for certain that Obama even got college loans. He has never released any of his college records either and there are credible rumors out there that a wealthy arab businessman paid for his college. I don’t believe anything that comes out of that man’s mouth.

If you go to the link and read the stuff, it looks like this selective service paper is a total fraud and was done in 2008!! Not back when he supposedly was in college.


50 posted on 11/13/2008 3:10:33 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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