Posted on 11/21/2008 5:43:38 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
About twelve minutes into a Detroit radio station’s interview with Kenyan ambassador Peter Ogego, he is asked whether or not monuments will be erected in honor of Obama’s elevation to the United States presidency.
Ogego responds that a monument will be erected at Obama’s birthplace in Kenya, which is already a site of pilgramage: “His birthplace is already an attraction…it’s already well known.”
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother has also asserted that he was born in Kenya, not the United States. The Constitution bars those born outside of US territory from becoming President.
There are also lawsuits pending — including one by Obama’s former Senate campaign opponent Alan Keyes — challenging Obama to provide proof of citizenship eligibility to take office. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has put this isssue on the docket for the Court to review on December 5th.
We need pics of the place...Google maps...Panoramio...Flickr
Yeah. It is the fourth mud hut on the right, just past the out door toilet, look for the three pig heads. Easy to find. It has the star shining down from the heavens over it.
Is anybody listening to this except us?
Is it north or south of ditch of sewage?
South, then turn right.
Sent to Drudge.
Ogego must be a member of the party that achieved power legitimately in the Kenyan election—not by a campaign of terror like Obama’s cousin Odinga.
Might as well have sent it to a black hole. This is being ignored like the plague not only by the MSM but by Rush, Hannity, and the rest of the RW talk radio. Rush mentioned it briefly a few weeks ago I was told, nothing since. Drudge had a link to Alan Keys case up for about a half a day. No headline and the link was buried way down in his story links, hard to find.
No. You could produce video proof of his birth in a Kenyan sh*t-hole and no court will overturn the election.
No but it must be getting harder and harder to ignore.
PERFECT!!!!!!
Unless, of course, she renounced her citizenship, a possibility I have never seen mentioned.
He is soooo smug. How I would love to see him get his comeuppance.
If the constitution of the US is not worth defending against mob rule, then nothing is. If we wish to preserve the republic, than we had best let the chips fall, and then sort them out. By whatever means necessary.
We who value the constitution will not allow the moral emphasis of this argument to be inverted. All this speculation, correct or not; has come about because this lying crypto-marxist thug from the most corrupt environs of leftist Chicago sewer politics has ascended to POTUS-elect status with the willing aquiescence of the MSM. The MSM was hell-bent on concealing this usurper’s background because they wanted him to be elected. Now, in a classic case of blame the messenger, those of us who belive in the constitution are being reviled for insisting that a POTUS comply with a basic requirement that most of us unhesitatingly conform with when seeking a driver’s license.
The arrogance and effrontery of this lying bastid is breathtaking. The founders knew that they were not natural born citizens, so they had to include language in Art II Sec 1 that exempted THEM. Does this fraud think that he is better than Washington, Madison, Adams, and Jefferson in that sense? Apparently he does, and with the acquiesence of enough people, he will suceed in usurping and corrupting the Executive Branch of government. This situation presents the very real posssibility of impelling this great nation beyond a constitutional crisis toward a civil war.
Finally, consider the implications of a man who would undertake these devious machinations to knowingly assume an office that he has no constitutional claim to, and than to see this same counterfeit president elect take an oath to defend that constitution. I believe that such a man would be willing to impose ANY sort or despotism or tyranny upon us to retain power.
I would suggest they call it Obama’s Graceland and the shrine will be open at a fee to all those pilgrims of every nationality who will be seeking to visit the birth place of ‘the one’. Especially those aspiring to be ‘other ones’. I foresee a church of Obama.
http://www.nation.co.ke/magazines/saturday/-/1216/488114/-/c14ivaz/-/index.html
He perpetuated FRAUD by standing by a false document
You might want to ponder the question, “if there is nothing to hide, why is Obama spending so much money to hide something?”
Just WOW !!!
Check out the link here.
“Unless I misunderstand the law, his mother was a US citizen, so it doesn’t matter where he was born.”
You do misunderstand the Constitution!
yes and yes
IF he was born overseas, she was not 5 years older than her 14th birthday so he is an Alien that was the law in effect.
IF he was born in Hawaii, its possible she renounced his US citizenship by taking him to Indonesia where he was legally adopted.
He could not be a secret service agent or even own a gun if he renounced his citizenship via his mother.
Yeeeoooow!
He admitted Kenyan citizenship on his “Fight the Smears” website but claimed it “expired” in 1982.
If the constitution of the US is not worth defending against mob rule, then nothing is. If we wish to preserve the republic, than we had best let the chips fall, and then sort them out. By whatever means necessary.
We who value the constitution will not allow the moral emphasis of this argument to be inverted. All this speculation, correct or not; has come about because this lying crypto-marxist thug from the most corrupt environs of leftist Chicago sewer politics has ascended to POTUS-elect status with the willing aquiescence of the MSM. The MSM was hell-bent on concealing this usurper’s background because they wanted him to be elected. Now, in a classic case of blame the messenger, those of us who belive in the constitution are being reviled for insisting that a POTUS comply with a basic requirement that most of us unhesitatingly conform with when seeking a driver’s license.
The arrogance and effrontery of this lying bastid is breathtaking. The founders knew that they were not natural born citizens, so they had to include language in Art II Sec 1 that exempted THEM. Does this fraud think that he is better than Washington, Madison, Adams, and Jefferson in that sense? Apparently he does, and with the acquiesence of enough people, he will suceed in usurping and corrupting the Executive Branch of government. This situation presents the very real posssibility of impelling this great nation beyond a constitutional crisis toward a civil war.
Finally, consider the implications of a man who would undertake these devious machinations to knowingly assume an office that he has no constitutional claim to, and than to see this same counterfeit president elect take an oath to defend that constitution. I believe that such a man would be willing to impose ANY sort or despotism or tyranny upon us to retain power.
He claimed citizenship through his father and said it “expired”. At any rate, would dual citizenship make him ineligible? I think it would. The Founders wanted those loyal to the US to serve.
Yes, from all I’ve read.
Kenya--(AP) Obwabunula Ngwamomobo points to site of the manger, and where many witnesses observed a blinding flash of light.
LOL!!!!
I’m not dancing......but it’s got a catchy tune.
Christmas shall hensceforth be known as Obamadan.
“South, then turn right.”
No, no, that’s where the pig guts are tossed out.
A correction, the Constitutional requirements are:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Contrary to the article, persons born outside the territory of the United States may be natural born citizens, depending on their parentage and the prevailing law at the time of their birth. In Obama’s case, if he was born in Kenya, under the prevailing law at the time of his birth he would not have been a US citizen. Hence the lawsuits.
No, a parent cannot renounce citizenship on behalf of a minor child. Only renunciations of citizenship by the person after attaining the age of 18 are valid under US law.
The only question open is whether he was a citizen at birth, which because his father was a British subject, and his US citizen mother was younger than the then prevailing statutory requirement for one parent’s US citizenship to be passed to a child at birth, turns entirely on where Obama was born.
You might want to write to John McCain then. He was born in Panama, IIRC. Having two US citizens as parents also qualifies as a "natural-born citizen". (Obama's father was Kenyan, his mother Kansan.)
The Cayman Islands could pass a law tomorrow saying that every human on the planet is a Cayman. That doesn't change our citizenship status.
see Berg lawsuit for relevancy. My quotes are from the constitution of Kenya, which he references...
There are age and time in country requirements that were not met.
***Why do they keep beating that dead horse?
Unless I misunderstand the law, his mother was a US citizen, so it doesn’t matter where he was born.***
Because the president has to be a “natural born citizen.” My mother was born in England, and became an American citizen when she moved here. She is a CITIZEN. She is not a NATURAL born citizen.
well put.
I think so too. This is the second reference to “his birth place” that I’ve seen and heard.
You are correct about the place of birth, but the Indonesian question is still open. If he traveled on an Indonesian - or British, or Kenyan - passport that he obtained as an adult, he almost certainly did renounce his American citizenship to obtain it. And at the time of his trip to Pakistan, they did not allow Americans to enter.
He did NOT need to do ANYTHING in America, or provide any notice to America, to renounce his American citizenship. Making an entitled claim of citizenship in a foreign country is probably enough. I could have claimed full British citizenship at age 18, because I was born in London to American parents - and I would have had no further duty or obligation to America of any kind. Instead, I took an oath of citizenship here in the USA, and have a (derivative) Certificate Of Citizenship that attests to that fact, and shows my date of AMERICAN citizenship as the same as my date of birth.
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