Polarik's final report: Obama's 'Born' Conspiracy Forged images, phony photos, and felony fraud

The Greater Evil ^ | 11/22/08 | Polarik

[real_patriotic_american]

You can’t change the rules after game starts.

Suppose celebrity Republicans Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria and singer Gloria Estefan, who was born in Cuba, chose to run for President.
They would be prevented from doing so since per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born citizen of the United States to hold office as President. Their births in Austria and Cuba would not be considered natural born citizenship.

A case might be made that Barack Obama knew that he was not eligibile to serve as President since he’s probably not a natural born citizen. Consequently, he forged a “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB) and advertised it to the American people as authentic.

Dr. Ron Polarik analyzed Obama’s COLB and determined it to be a forgery. I firmly agree with him. The enclosed link provides Polarik’s article and displays the alleged forged document while pointing out altered numbers and discrepancies, etc.:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts

It is a felony to forge a government document and there could be a multitude of felony counts contained here against Obama.

Dr. Polarik has also indicated that he will update this report.

We the American people have the right to know if our President is eligible to hold office. For many, Obama has not proven this requirement.

Obama, I ask, WHERE were you born in Hawaii? Prove it! Where is your original birth certificate? Where?

The authorities MUST enforce the Constitution and require Obama to prove that he is a natural born American citizen. Action on this case is past due! If the Constitution were not going to be enforced, Schwarzenegger or Estefan could have been on the Republican ticket in 2008. What law permits the Democrats special privileges?

In closing, our past Presidents have Birthplace Museums. Just to name a few, Ronald Reagan has a Birthplace Museum in Tampico, Illinois and Bill Clinton has a Birthplace Museum in Hope, Arkansas where they were born. Where will Barack Obama’s Birthplace Museum be located at? At the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya?

[LorenC]

Additionally, I have repeatedly said that I post the legal opinion of attorneys practicing in the federal courts system.

What attorneys? You haven't offered any names that I see in your post about the Natural-Born Citizen cases (where you said you were quoting an attorney), and my attempts to Google the portions of your previous post that appeared to be commentary (as opposed to quoted portions of the cases) turned up nada.

Lots of attorneys, good and bad, are licensed to practice in the federal system. The requirements are essentially 1) be a licensed attorney, and 2) get a couple of other licensed attorneys to sign your admission form, 3) pay the admissions fee, and 4) take the oath. There's no more merit involved in being licensed to practice in the federal system than in being licensed in any state's bar; just more money.

So who are the attorneys whose opinions you're relying on?

[Beckwith]

So who are the attorneys whose opinions you're relying on?

I completely agree that given any two attorneys, you'll likely get two opinions. However, I choose to accept the written opinion of attorneys -- more than one -- rather than dreaming up my own.

Reading and interpreting the law requires training that I don't have and I'm smart enough to recognize my limitations -- unlike many on this forum, who are more interested in doing a brain dump and polishing their egos -- oh, and arguing endlessly, instead of improving their understanding of these issues.

I don't care if you disagree with my counselor's opinions. You have every right to do so. I post the information I have because I have it. It has evolved over a period of two years. You can take it or leave it -- it doesn't matter to me, but I'm not going to argue with people about it -- simple as that.

As far as the names of the attorneys I correspond with -- it's none of your damned business.

[LorenC]

As far as the names of the attorneys I correspond with -- it's none of your damned business.

So you want other people to weigh the judgment of the anonymous attorneys that you supposedly got your testimony from, but it's "none of my damned business" to know who your sources are?

Ridiculous. If you expect anyone to take your sources seriously, you have to be willing to cite them. Otherwise, there's no reason to think you're not writing it yourself, and claiming that attorneys wrote it. None of the identifiable legal commentary you provided is particularly sophisticated or striking; it certainly doesn't read like it had to have come from the pen of an attorney.

On the other hand, maybe I should rebut you by playing your game. You say attorneys provided your caselaw analysis? Well, I've got a handful of federal JUDGES who tell me they're wrong. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Their names? Their positions? Any information about them at all? Sorry...none of your business.

You may also be interested in the guy who claims to have a Kenyan birth certificate that he's attempting to sell for thousands of dollars on eBay. He takes a similar approach; he wants your trust and your money, but it's none of your business to actually see the item you're buying or even verify if he possesses it. But I'm sure he's trustworthy.

Naturally, I can't make you name your sources. But if anyone here is seriously considering trusting your "attorneys'" judgment, at least I can make them give a second thought as to how much faith they should put in secret unnamed, unidentified, uncredentialed "attorneys" who you refuse to provide any information about whatsoever. And whether they should consider that heavy blanket of secrecy and sourceless regurgitation when evaluating any other claims you happen to make.

[Polarik]

Nobody has debunked the findings that the COLB posted online is a forgery.

However, I sure debunked the heck out of "Dr. Krawetz." I know that's the guy to whom you're referring.

Go to: http://bogusbirthcertificate.blogspot.com , and learn why "Credentials" mean diddly-squat when you've got nothing to back it up. So much for your "real" PhD.

Oh, I just love it when lint-for-brains think they get the better of me.

Well you had better listen up as I'm only going to say it once. You'd better take notes, or else it will go in one eye and out the other.

Hawaii never produced a COLB for Obama with a date stamp of June 6, 2007. It never happened. Hawaii's State Registrar confirmed that it didn't happen. So there is no such thing as a "real" 2007 COLB for Obama. It is a nonexistent document. Sort of like a nonexistent person who keeps talking as if they know something.

I proved that what's on the Internet is bogus, and there isn't a person on this planet who has any proof whatsoever that it's not bogus. There is not even the tiniest shred of evidence to prove that this is anything BUT a bogus scan image. In fact, Factcheck's photos irrefutably confirmed that it's bogus. I owe a lot to Factcheck for that.

Yet, that doesn't discourage the lint-for-brains crowd from claiming that it's real. They also continue to claim that Obama is not a Muslim, and that aliens from Mars are masquerading themselves as Republicans.

And, of course, it's only the people with nothing but a brain stem who continue to insist that it is real. Of course, if Obama or Factcheck gave them cow manure and told them it was chocolate mousse, they'd be like Oliver Twist and say, "More, please!"

Congratulations, you've gone out of your way to prove to us that you are one of the clueless, brainless, and spineless trolls that lurk among the real members, and when trolls like yourself have to resort to spouting off the hearsay of others, then they are totally useless as well. We sure don't need for a troll to tell us what other trolls have said.

Do you lie awake at night reading, "The Idiot's Guide to Dummies?" I mean, how else does one learn to repeat such vacuous and innocuous gibberish as you do? Did you also attend a night class on Stupid? You really have talent in that area.

Go step-by-step with me? LOL! You cannot even go step-by-step with yourself.

Politifact quotes their "proof" as coming from their sister site, Factcheck, who is a shill for Obama and a major part of this bogus birth certificate scam. They continue to defend this charade, in a loop of loopy reporters who wouldn't know a real COLB from an elbow. That's your proof?

As long as we're quoting Janice Okubo, who is just the PR person, not the State Registrar, and Director of the OHSM, with whom I spoke. Janice, bless her heart, is a coconut short of a pina colada when it comes to how the COLB is actually produced.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001. At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting, and the electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests."

Which part of "They went paperless in November 2001" did you NOT understand? On what date did you go brainless to think that Rev. 11/01 referred to a simple revision. Hawaii never used an electronically-generated form before November 2001, but, like I said, "You can't say what you don't know."

We all know that. That's what makes your thoughtless comments all the more pitiful.

Nobody is listening to you. Nobody cares what you think, what you say, or what you do in all that spare time you have with yourself.

You haven't said anything that any other brain-dead troll has already said. We've heard it all for over a year now. It took you all of one word to tip us off that you are just another big-mouth troll -- kind of like a big-mouthed bass who's hooked and in the net. They keep thrashing around as if it's going to do any good.

With apologies to Sgt. Shultz, "You know nothing. You hear nothing. You say nothing. You are nothing"

All you know how to do is attack me. Wow! How freakin' novel of you. If I had a dollar for how many trolls like you have done the same thing, I could retire.

Basically, you are a complete waste of carbon. You need to get yourself over to one of those carbon sequestering sites right away. It's guys like you who cause global warming, what with all the CO2 belching out of their mouths. No, wait a minute. That's CH4 coming out of yours.

Buh-bah...

[Fred Nerks]

methinks anyone so possessed with intent to identify your lawyer (Beckwith) or yourself (Polarik) has something other than the truth of the issue as their agenda.

Fortunately, and most deservedly, Beckwith -

The United States
Library of Congress
has selected
TheObamaFile.com
for inclusion in its
historic collection
of Internet materials

And Polarik, your work is quoted countless times all over the web, and no one has been able to discount your efforts or disprove your work.

That must be making a lot of people very angry. They are NOT nice people. Take care.

[Beckwith]

Yada, yada, yada!

[Beckwith]

Ha, ha, ha! Look at this kid that's coming at me! I have grandchildren his age.

He's a wanna-be politician -- and he's a "Progessive" -- he's a card-carrying member of the crowd that's ruining this country.

Loren's Facebook page

Loren Collins for Congress

He got less .064 of the ballots cast. Now here's a winner for you!



Looks like a damned deer caught in the headlights -- and remember, Loren chose this picture -- it's his best view of himself. What's that collar size? 13 inches?

Loren (isn't that a girl's name) has shared his half-vast experience 15 times since joining the forum on Nov 4, 2006.

2006 -- 3 posts -- Self-serving posts, in which the wanna-be Dennis Kucinich practices being a politician by pushing his ideas for making it easier for illegals to enter the country and winning the War in Iraq -- no doubt from his extensive combat experiences.

2008 -- 2 posts -- This time he's skeptical about critics of Obama.

2009 -- Two days ago -- prompted by the eBay auction -- our action hero takes a break from his busy campaign schedule and returns to FreeRepublic to aggressively defend the Obamamessiah from those who would question his eligibility.

Oh, lordy! Please save me from these twits.

[LucyT]

Oh, lordy! Please save me from these twits.

Too late.

[Fred Nerks]

GOTCHA!

[DavidFarrar]

I have read 1401 over and over again, but no matter how many times I read it, I still can’t find the word “natural”, let alone “natural born”. I see the word “nationals”, but not “natural”. Are you perhaps confusing the two?

Please cite for me the exact section in 1401 you are relying upon to support your statement: “Two parents who are U.S. citizens is a requirement only when born outside the United States, like McCain was.”

Thank you.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[LorenC]

Interesting. Apparently any information whatsoever about the supposed attorneys who wrote the ObamaFile page is none of anybody's business (but he swears they're actually attorneys!), but it's everybody's business who I am.

Not that I particularly care that anybody knows who I am, mind you. It's not like anybody looking at my post history couldn't figure it out pretty quickly, as you did. I post under my real name too.

Heck, I'll even provide the one thing about myself that you say is nobody's business about your "attorneys": evidence that I'm actually a member of the Bar.

As for your specific commentary:

Ha, ha, ha! Look at this kid that's coming at me! I have grandchildren his age.

A comment on my appearance. Still, it is more or less a positive one, as most people take comments about looking young as compliments. So, thank you.

He's a wanna-be politician -- and he's a "Progessive" --

I am not, and have never been, a "Progressive." Despite your attempt to undercut me with labels, anyone who actually LOOKS at my information will see that I never call myself a Progressive. So I have no idea who you are quoting, because it sure as heck ain't me.

To the contrary, I specifically identify my political leanings as conservative-libertarian, and my general political philosophy as classical liberal.

he's a card-carrying member of the crowd that's ruining this country.

The crowd that's ruining this country are conservative-libertarians who are fed up with the statism and runaway spending of the post-Gingrich Republican Party?

He got less .064 of the ballots cast. Now here's a winner for you!

Hey now...you could at least mention that I was a write-in. Write-ins, almost by definition, tend not to win.

Looks like a damned deer caught in the headlights -- and remember, Loren chose this picture -- it's his best view of himself. What's that collar size? 13 inches?

Back to the comments on physical appearance, this time decidedly less complimentary.

Loren (isn't that a girl's name)

What's up with the personal insults? I haven't turned to personal insults about your name and appearance, or anyone else's. (And no, it's not. Check a baby book.)

has shared his half-vast experience 15 times since joining the forum on Nov 4, 2006.

2006 -- 3 posts -- Self-serving posts, in which the wanna-be Dennis Kucinich practices being a politician by pushing his ideas for making it easier for illegals to enter the country and winning the War in Iraq -- no doubt from his extensive combat experiences.

Of course they were self-serving posts; the entire thread was the live-thread for a radio talk show I was a guest on. One of the hosts updated it while on-air. People discussed what I had to say on the air, so I created an account to respond.

2008 -- 2 posts -- This time he's skeptical about critics of Obama.

Indeed. Birtherdom interests me. Especially when people misrepresent evidence, like cutting off transcripts midway, or totally misstating the content of a webpage; the nature of those two posts.

In fact, the blatant misrepresentation of information online generally interests me, particularly bad quotes. Have you heard the story about how Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton a dog on the air? I debunked it. Thoroughly. I even informed MediaMatters after I saw that they'd recently reported it as true, and suggested that they run a correction; so far, they've done nothing.

2009 -- Two days ago -- prompted by the eBay auction -- our action hero takes a break from his busy campaign schedule and returns to FreeRepublic to aggressively defend the Obamamessiah from those who would question his eligibility.

There's a campaign going on? And here I stopped doing anything after the election (an election, I should note, where I ran AGAINST an incumbent Democrat, and where there was no Republican opposition on the ballot).

And he's certainly not MY Obamamessiah. I voted for Barr.

But frankly, that eBay auction is a fascinating little soap opera. And it's folks here at FreeRepublic that have been key in identifying the seller as someone with a repeat criminal history including forgery and bank fraud, in addition to an attempt he made to extort money out of a desperate family in exchange for a kidney.

[Beckwith]

I am not, and have never been, a "Progressive."

You're either a liar or ignorant.

From your own website: "Loren Collins for Congress -- Bull Moose Candidate for Georgia's Fourth Congressional District"

BULL MOOSE PARTY, the nickname given by newspapers to the Progressive Party, founded in June 1912 by progressive Republicans who bolted the GOP convention to protest the regular party's "standpatism" and the usurpation of progressive presidential electors by incumbent William Howard Taft.

So you're a Bull Moose, but you're not a Progressive -- black is white and white is black -- you guys kill me.

Glenn Beck: 'The progressive movement ... is the cancer' destroying the country -- and I love the name of the website -- "Crooks and Liars" -- fits this guy to a tee.

Now go away, before I send my grand-daughter down there to kick your ass.

[LorenC]

You're either a liar or ignorant.

From your own website: "Loren Collins for Congress -- Bull Moose Candidate for Georgia's Fourth Congressional District"

BULL MOOSE PARTY, the nickname given by newspapers to the Progressive Party, founded in June 1912 by progressive Republicans who bolted the GOP convention to protest the regular party's "standpatism" and the usurpation of progressive presidential electors by incumbent William Howard Taft.

So you're a Bull Moose, but you're not a Progressive -- black is white and white is black -- you guys kill me.

So you admit that despite your use of quote marks, you weren't actually quoting me? Thank you.

Regardless, your logic is impenetrable. I borrowed the unofficial nickname of a decades-old defunct political party (not the “Progressive” name), ergo I must share that party's political ideology. I take it that my actual stances on issues (discreetly located on my “Issues” page), which don’t sync at all with the Progressive agenda, are irrelevant? In fact, I doubt I could be any LESS “Progressive” on the issue of Social Security.

I could also note that before he was a Progressive candidate, Theodore Roosevelt was a two-term Republican President, and his politics were the same. And as a Republican, Roosevelt advanced a rather “progressive” agenda. Perhaps all Republicans should be considered “progressives,” then.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Then there was this little slip by Ryan Church staight out of the dem play book:

The publication is Politifact, not Factcheck, (which was founded by the Annenbergs, friend of the Reagan and William Smith families and proud and loyal Republicans for years.)

Just thought I would point that out, just in case :)

[Las Vegas Ron]

Should have added that was from post #425

[MHGinTN]

Liar or ignorant? ... The poster is likely a journalist, a pseudo-libertarian journalist. What else would one expect from someone who would vote for Bob Barr of the ACLU scum.

[MHGinTN]

Love the visual! Have you noticed how the Axelrodgoons are now demanding to know what actual attorney was consulted, or what the actual degree and university is for Polarik? I think this exposes the puking democrat goons immediately since it is in the affirmative action fraud’s best interest—as democrat politics go don’tchaknow—to have names and addresses in order to send the hit squads out to assassinate the character of fellow Americans who oppose the little marxist bastard and his brownshirt criminal enterprise.

[LorenC]

The poster is likely a journalist, a pseudo-libertarian journalist. What else would one expect from someone who would vote for Bob Barr of the ACLU scum.

Sorry to disapoint, but I'm a lawyer. I thought that was clear a few posts ago when I linked to my Bar page.

[LorenC]

“disappoint”

Lousy typo...