Posted on 11/22/2008 9:08:58 PM PST by Polarik
Here it is
A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
Typical Alinsky playbook items.
You cannot disprove the evidence ergo you must destroy the reputation of the person who supplies the evidence.
I for one am satisfied that Obama’s COLB is a forgery for several reasons.
First of all despite Obama’s own claims to having his original birth certificate (He says he has it in “Dreams of My Father”) Obama had one made up for the election, real or forged there was no reason why he needed to do so. He already had his original birth certificate in his possession.
Secondly even as a rank amateur and I will proudly admit to being one, I spotted this on the COLB. I know for a fact could not be made with a laser jet printer on a document with a green security background. Black ink sprayed via a laser jet onto a green background does not create white spots around the letters, that sort of thing appears only on a photoshopped image.
I don’t care if what Polarik is and it shouldn’t matter if what he has said can be verified by others who are qualified.
Your only qualifications seem to be that you are a bonifide camp follower of Obama’s willing to allow all sorts of election fraud that has been commited by the Obama campaign because you don’t have the guts to ask for 10 dollar piece of paper that would prove that he was or was not eleigable in the first place.
Welcome to FR, you obamanoid vermin. Your obamanoid mission appears to be to try and get Ron to reveal what Axelrod needs to attack and destroy yet another common American like Joe the Plummer was attacked by you cowardly piss ants. A citizen who has challenged your putrifaction Pres__ent so instead of honest openness you creeps seek the data to kill off the naysayers. You’re a bit amateurish in that regard, but it is amusing to follow the insulting and lies which are needed to work for your document criminal messiah and his handlers.
You know...it is simply fascinating to me that after “lurking” here for a year, and reading ALL of Ron’s posts on this subject, you have oh, so conveniently skipped over every other scholarly work done on this usurper and gone straight for his jugular as if you were suddenly sprung loose from an imprisonment for 20 years and he was the eyewitness who put you there.
Sort of makes me question your motives, my man.
If you disagree with his findings, that’s one thing, but to use the excuse that you are somehow posting as a surrogate for “all” the “wronged,” hardworking PhDs of the world rings a tad hollow, not to mention thin skinned to a degree I have seen only from those who actually had a PhD and remained perpetually in search of relevancy but couldn’t cut it in the real world.
Long story short, jealousy.
I have read theses from PhDs so ridiculous they made me laugh so hard I cried. It is tragic what passes for intelligence these days.
Have you read Michelle’s by any chance?
If I had to choose between THAT and what I have seen from Ron, trust me, Ron wins, hands down.
YOU? Thumbs down. You are a sniveler. And a coward to boot. Just what do you have on the line here? Loss of face in your real life, maybe?
That will leave a mark. I hope it is permanent.
From your link, nutroll:
“Quote: Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said today she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.”
Key words here are: ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Original birth certificate from WHERE, exactly? That is relevant because the NEXT LINE IS:
“Hawaii confirmed that Obama has a real birth certificate from Hawaii. Regardless of whether the document on the web is real or tampered, the argument is moot; an authentic document exists. Thus, the conspiracy has no basis.”
Please, mr. hacker, show me where, ANYWHERE on the entire Worldwide Web, anyone EVER says they saw a copy of Obama’s REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM HAWAII.
Now I know what your problem is. You are a second rate hack looking for attention. GO AWAY!
The link you posted is a rat’s nest offering no proof of anything other than unsubstantiated and downright false claims. I guess my last post was spot on. You’re jealous. LOLOLOL
It would have been a copy, no one gets the original.
I know for a fact could not be made with a laser jet printer on a document with a green security background. Black ink sprayed via a laser jet onto a green background does not create white spots around the letters, that sort of thing appears only on a photoshopped image.
What you saw was a scanned image of the certified laser printed CoLB. The "white spots around the letters" have more to do with the fact that the CoLB was scanned and saved as a jpeg (information is lost as the file is compressed) than with PhotoShop itself. Believe me, if white spots around type were a hallmark of PhotoShop it wouldn't be used by professionals, and I say that as a professional.
In fact all the indications that it was a photoshop creation, point to the fact that an amateur created it.
But lets look at it your way for a second.
Let's suppose that everything that Polarik has pointed out as the results of a photoshop were in fact caused by a bad scanner, the resulting image has still been photo shopped, because the serial number has been cut from the image leaving a black background beneath first layer of the scanned image.
So telling me it hasn't been photo shopped when it has, is at least disingenuous.
World Net Daily says it.
The document their experts examined is a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth, that makes it from Hawaii. The raised seal, and signature stamp on the back make it "real".
Do you want to discuss the black box or the white spots around the type?
Aren't you being just a bit disingenuous?
Okay. Here is the whole point. IF Obama has a certified copy of his CoLB, why doesn’t he simply call reporters into his “office” and SHOW it to them, allow several unaffiliated experts to authenticate it, and shut the people asking to see it up once and for all?
Instead, he has used his time in office to fundamentally change the landscape of the country with NO ONE knowing if he was EVER qualified to serve.
We know that the other means he used to steal this election via SEIU and ACORN was a criminal conspiracy.
There is talk of rebellion, revolution, blood in the streets. You have heard it. He could stop this in a heartbeat, but he doesn’t. Instead, he is building an impenetrable wall around himself. Why?
This is serious, VERY.
When I first came to FR, I had an idea about the Birth Certificate, but had not done the kind of in depth stuff I found here.
I have been, and continue to be, very impressed with the research that the folks here have undauntingly gathered and archived and concluded for myself that this might be the ONLY way to have the Supreme Court, a CO-EQUAL branch of government for the time being, act in the same manner the Honduran Court acted when its constitution was being trampled under the feet of a would-be tyrant.
We have a TYRANT at the helm of State. The Congress will not act. SOMEONE has to, or this country will be no more.
Strong words, yes. ABSOLUTELY TRUE!
May the Good Lord damn Polarik to the depths of hell for the damage he is doing to the conservative cause and the Republican party.
you just outed yourself as a liberal puppet.
I dare say anyone that considers themselves a Christian and a conservative would never want God to damn anyone to hell for all eternity for seeking the truth..
That's what we are talking about here the truth about Obama and nothing less.
So once again, please tell us all how WND got an ORIGINAL copy of Obama’s CoLB to verify when no one else in the whole world has.
Do you want to discuss the black box or the white spots around the type?I'm perfectly willing to discuss both.Aren't you being just a bit disingenuous?
I have seen scans that are of the same vintage (2007) as Obama's and oddly enough they don't have the spots around the type, why do you suppose these spots only show up on Obama's COLB?
you have said you are an expert, tell us all why they only appear on Obama's COLB and don't appear on other COLB's of the same year that have been found and posted by others?
You want to discuss this fine, tell us all how that happens....
I'll wait.
Apparently his CoLB has been available for examination or WND's experts wouldn't have had access to it.
...and concluded for myself that this might be the ONLY way to have the Supreme Court, a CO-EQUAL branch of government for the time being, act in the same manner the Honduran Court acted when its constitution was being trampled under the feet of a would-be tyrant.
There is that pesky little Constitutional detail about separation of powers. The president doesn't get to abolish the Supreme Court, and SCOTUS doesn't get to oust the president (and for good reason!).
We have a TYRANT at the helm of State. The Congress will not act. SOMEONE has to, or this country will be no more.
This country WILL BE NO MORE if the Constitution is shredded in order to save it.
Why don't you ask Joesph Farah?
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
OMG!!! I MISSED IT!!! WHERE was it available for examination and WND was the ONLY news organization that bothered to authenticate it out of, let’s see, hundreds?
Washington Times? New York Times? Washington Post even, since they surely would have wanted to “authenticate” their boy wonder.
Please. WND is frequently The Enquirer on steroids.
New stuff. Gee. All this time and no one thought to go to 0’s headquarters until NOW? Brand spankin’ new, it is. My, my, my.
If you want a real answer rather than just play games, ask those that can provide a real answer.
Here's a place to start
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38677
Scroll down to the bottom of the page to email Joesph Farah
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