Posted on 11/22/2008 9:08:58 PM PST by Polarik
Well, hotshot?
“Natural born” appears only in the Constitution, so you won’t find it in any law. That, after all, is what causes the problem in people’s minds: What, they want to know, did the framers of the Constitution mean? There is abundant evidence that they meant that a person was not a “foreigner.” Anyone born in the United States is not a foreigner. That’s it.
By the way, your link does not go to any page.
http://www.theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenLaw.htm gives me a 404 error: The page cannot be found.
You can’t change the rules after game starts.
Suppose celebrity Republicans Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria and singer Gloria Estefan, who was born in Cuba, chose to run for President.
They would be prevented from doing so since per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born citizen of the United States to hold office as President. Their births in Austria and Cuba would not be considered natural born citizenship.
A case might be made that Barack Obama knew that he was not eligibile to serve as President since he’s probably not a natural born citizen. Consequently, he forged a “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB) and advertised it to the American people as authentic.
Dr. Ron Polarik analyzed Obama’s COLB and determined it to be a forgery. I firmly agree with him. The enclosed link provides Polarik’s article and displays the alleged forged document while pointing out altered numbers and discrepancies, etc.:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts
It is a felony to forge a government document and there could be a multitude of felony counts contained here against Obama.
Dr. Polarik has also indicated that he will update this report.
We the American people have the right to know if our President is eligible to hold office. For many, Obama has not proven this requirement.
Obama, I ask, WHERE were you born in Hawaii? Prove it! Where is your original birth certificate? Where?
The authorities MUST enforce the Constitution and require Obama to prove that he is a natural born American citizen. Action on this case is past due! If the Constitution were not going to be enforced, Schwarzenegger or Estefan could have been on the Republican ticket in 2008. What law permits the Democrats special privileges?
In closing, our past Presidents have Birthplace Museums. Just to name a few, Ronald Reagan has a Birthplace Museum in Tampico, Illinois and Bill Clinton has a Birthplace Museum in Hope, Arkansas where they were born. Where will Barack Obama’s Birthplace Museum be located- at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya?
Thank you. I gave you an old link.
Please try this one:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm
I like your style Beckwith. You got a lot of class.
Cheers and keep up the good work.
easy does it.
Mark.
Did you pick up your attitude in the gutter and your intellect from a cow patty?
Seriously, If you disagree, fine. But someone of your supposed credentials shouldn't whine to the Admin. just because you have an axe to grind or thorn in your ass.
Where are your credentials? Are you an expert in this field? Why do you care? Don't give me some of that mindless palaver about too many pages. If that is a problem for I suggest you take a course in Evelyn Woods. I took in the 9th grade and it works for me.
BTW, there business people with no credentials in their chosen fields. Think Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell.
You could even look at the many chefs around the world at whose restaurants I have had the pleasure of dining and they are incredible. Better than many of the Credential ed Chefs at other restaurants. Here you might think of Thomas Keller and Charlie Trotter.
I put the experience they serve up there with Daniels, Jean George, Susana Foo, Le Bec Fin, Gary Danko.
Now how do I arrive using those industries and men as analagies?
They are not credential ed and the work they do is part science and part alchemy.
And yes, I have been to all those restaurants and more and met or know everyone but Bill Gates.
Welcome to Free Republic but try to post something a little more positive. It will help your bowels and you'll feel better.
You said:
“Take it from someone who has been there”
Where have you been? We don't know you anymore than you know us.
Face it. If you are anything you are a washed hack, writer wannabe, who falls off his barstool once in a while and starts yelling at the bar stool.
I love it when our mods get frisky :-)
Sorry for including you in the post. I did not see you had responded to the “Jack Ryan” wannabe. Which is how he came by his handle.
I did want him to see he is wasting time here. So included everyone he posted to.
Hope you don’t mind. I know you are busy enough keeping servers cool, straight, and synced.
That is so funny it’s Stupid! This idiot savante isn’t getting a break.
Post on.
I thought none of it was enforceable without spraying vodka from your mouth over a dead chicken and sprinklin’ with some fairy dust.
Am I wrong? /S
You bruiser.
Obviously, I meant a law as a statute.
From Wong:
“The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.’”
And also from Wong: “It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.”
Minor says only that “doubts” exist with regard to only one parent being a citizen: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.”
So you are mistaken.
However, only a case dealing specifically with the issue can settle it for you and some others.
I just figured it out. His name isn’t Ryan Church, it’s Lyin’ Lurch.
;)
No problem.
Hey! Wer’ed you go? We were having fun. Come back.
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