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Is the President-Elect Blackmail-able Over His Birth Certificate?
WEB Commentary ^ | 11/25/08 | Mike Gaynor

Posted on 11/24/2008 9:29:07 PM PST by pissant

It IS cause for concern that the President-Elect is hiding his birth certificate and the logical questions presenting themselves are, why is the President-Elect hiding his birth certificate?, and Is the President-Elect blackmailable over his birth certificate?

I submit that there is a legitimate public interest in the birth certificate of the President-Elect.

Is the truth about his birth what he wrote in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father, or what he said at the last Alfred E. Smith dinner, or something else?

Is America at risk because the President-Elect is determined to conceal his birth certificate?

Professor Matthew J. Franck feels oppressed over the interest in President-Elect Obama’s birth certificate.

Professor Franck, in a National Review Online Bench memo titled “Dear Lord, Make It Stop”:

“It's a week after the election, and I'm still getting e-mails that holler about how Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he's not a ‘natural born citizen’ under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. Enough already!

“Last winter, even the New York Times was suckered into taking seriously the loopy theory that John McCain is not a natural born citizen because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. As I explained then, his parentage sufficed no matter where he was born, since his parents were U.S. citizens.

“So too with Obama. All indications are that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. The state authorities say they have his birth certificate (though the fact that a modern printout of an electronic record has been made available rather than a photocopy of the 1961 original has sent some people round the bend).

“And what if Obama was not born in the U.S. but instead, as some claim, in Kenya? Well, his mother was an American citizen, and as UCLA law prof and blogger Eugene Volokh explained to the Chicago Tribune, the applicable statutes about foreign birth with one U.S. citizen parent are on Obama's side here.”

With all due respect to Professor Franck (and that is plenty), there is more to this than perhaps a legal issue as to whether a child of one United States citizen born abroad is eligible to serve a President of the United States (which should be determined based on principle, not personality). The President-Elect chose to hide his birth certificate instead of to produce it for public inspection. THAT is strange.

How many Presidents of the United States have hidden their birth certificate?

I am not aware of any.

How many presidential candidates have hidden their birth certificates?

To the best of my knowledge, only…THE ONE.

At the Alfred E. Smith dinner this year, then presidential candidate Obama said that he was born on Krypton and sent to earth by his father Jor-El.

Perhaps the truth is stranger than that.

Would a smart politician hide his or her birth certificate if there was nothing problematic about it?

The answer is no.

Such hiding instills or increases doubt about the candidate in some voters and it is in a candidate’s best interests to eliminate such doubt if the truth is good.

So, it seems that the President-Elect elected to hide his birth certificate because there is something troublesome about it becoming generally known, and more important than allaying suspicion.

Professor Franck concluded his Bench Memo: “Give it up and get on with life. Barack Obama is going to become president on January 20, 2009. He won, fair and square, an office he is eligible to occupy. So stop with the fetid, fervid, fevered e-mails, okay?”

It may well be that the President-Elect is eligible to occupy the Oval Office, but without examining that birth certificate, how can Professor Franck assure us that the President-Elect “won, fair and square”?

A November 21, 2008 post by "Nice Deb" titled "Kenyan Ambassador: Obama’s Birthplace “Already Well Known In Kenya” suggests that the President-Elect lied about his birthplace and while I don't care per se where he was born, I do care about lying.

"Nice Deb":

"I wasn’t going to say any more about the Obama birth certificate controversy, but I found this intriguing.

"Mike in the Morning, a radio talk show out of Detroit MI, (of all places!), decided to call the Kenyan embassy a little over a week ago, and talk about the reaction in Kenya to Obama’s victory in the 2008 Presidential election. I think it was meant to be a light hearted interview…it doesn’t seem like they went into this with the intention of making headlines. They started off talking to a secretary, but were eventually patched through to the Kenyan Ambassador, H.E. Peter Ogego.

"The pertinent part of the audio starts at 2:35.

"My impression is that the question about Obama’s birthplace was meant as a joke… not to be taken seriously. But His Excellency Peter Ogego answered it seriously, and frankly.

"A few things to consider in case you’re thinking this was some sort of prank:

1. The audio of this conversation (the first part of the call can be heard, here) is posted at the WRIF radio station’s website. I doubt the station would put its reputation and FCC radio license on the line for a hoax.

2. That sure sounds like H.E. Peter Ogego’s voice. Compare here.

3. Listen to the genuine surprise of the talk show hosts after the call.The only argument that detractors can convincingly make, is that the Ambassador and most, if not all of Kenya’s citizen’s, including Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, (who claims to have witnessed his birth), are mistaken about this.

"WND reports:

'At least two of his relatives in Kenya claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa, Kenya. In addition, the Obama machine has scoffed at requests to see the form of the Hawaiian birth certificate that includes the specific hospital in which the delivery took place. The form released by the campaign does not include that information, leading to suspicions Obama might have been one of the foreign-born babies of the 1960s who were, nonetheless, provided birth certificates by the state of Hawaii.'

"And:

"'Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,' the document said. 'The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.'"

Americans regularly receive tax and medical information about their President.

It is NOT too much to expect a presidential candidate to provide his or her birth certificate.

It IS cause for concern that the President-Elect is hiding his birth certificate and the logical questions presenting themselves are, Why is the President-Elect hiding his birth certificate?, and Is the President-Elect blackmailable over his birth certificate?

Michael J. Gaynor


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; blackmail; certifigate; larrysinclairslover; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; scotus
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Never trust a commie without verification, to paraphrase the Gipper.
1 posted on 11/24/2008 9:29:07 PM PST by pissant
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To: LucyT; EternalVigilance; Calpernia

ping


2 posted on 11/24/2008 9:29:36 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

How could they blackmail him? What could they possibly threaten him with?


3 posted on 11/24/2008 9:31:49 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: nickcarraway

Exposure of his real birth. Think Mossad might know? The Chicoms?


4 posted on 11/24/2008 9:34:51 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

The question would be, who would believe the blackmailer; the “proof” could be fraudulent?


5 posted on 11/24/2008 9:36:01 PM PST by boxer21
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To: pissant

Of course he is blackmail-able (or blackmalleable). Just ask the API.


6 posted on 11/24/2008 9:36:48 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: pissant

The Somalia Pirates, Odinga, Amadamnnutjob (Amadenajab), Hugo in Venezula, the mob, the Democrats, the Republicans, the list goes on and on.


7 posted on 11/24/2008 9:37:35 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Kevmo

LOL. I think the API is an arm of the Obama campaign myself.


8 posted on 11/24/2008 9:38:19 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: boxer21

What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. = New Slogan for Obama the fraud.


9 posted on 11/24/2008 9:38:50 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Kevmo

Of course- I’ve intended to use this argument w/ relatives soon-coming. He’s also set the “adminstration” up for a potential military coup, of course. How can anyone convinced of his clear lack of elligibility think otherwise on either front?


10 posted on 11/24/2008 9:40:56 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: pissant; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; Candor7; Jeff Head; ..

Thanks, pissant.

Is the President-Elect Blackmail-able Over His Birth Certificate? Are there Trees in the Forest?

Ping-a-Ling.


11 posted on 11/24/2008 9:41:29 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: pissant

Have you heard my theory on that API debacle? Here it is:

The API did get a couple of phone calls from Michelle Obama and they taped them and they contain pretty much what they said is contained in them. So they tried to leverage what they had into a pay day and tried to shake down the Obama Administration. For a while, the zer0bama administration was taking a pass because they said there was no way they could trust these guys to keep their mouths shut. That’s when Fox News was contacted, but Fox wouldn’t pay for a pig in a poke. So it was back to Obama’s team, who said the API would need to prove they would be willing to look like fools. So that’s what the API guys have been doing for the last few months. Each time they look like fools with some stupid announcement, Team Obama sends them a check.

It fits the facts of the case, like other theories. No one else can explain why the API guys burst onto the scene with such obvious foolishness.


12 posted on 11/24/2008 9:47:05 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT

Stand up for America PING!


13 posted on 11/24/2008 9:52:03 PM PST by Iowan
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To: LucyT
How would Obama be blackmailed? His handlers already own him.

It's a sad day in America that the first black president is owned by others.
14 posted on 11/24/2008 9:53:54 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: pissant

How far will the Democrats go to keep Obama in office? When will troublemakers start to disappear?


15 posted on 11/24/2008 9:53:56 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: pissant

Blackmail is one concern. Also there’s the probability that nothing he signs as POTUS would be valid if it was dicovered say in 2010 that he was not qualified to serve.


16 posted on 11/24/2008 9:57:41 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kevmo
No one else can explain why the API guys burst onto the scene with such obvious foolishness.

Um, because they're fools?

Occam's razor is your friend.

17 posted on 11/24/2008 9:58:18 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: pissant
Is the President-Elect Blackmail-able Over His Birth Certificate?

Is Obama a Marxist?

18 posted on 11/24/2008 10:02:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (AIPNEWS.com - America's Independent Party: "Peace through superior firepower!")
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To: ReignOfError

Then why burst onto the scene like they did? There are tons of fools. Occham’s Razor would need to be able to say why they acted the way they did. With as many foolish organizations as there are, we’d be inundated with ridiculous claims if your supposition were true.


19 posted on 11/24/2008 10:03:28 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: pissant

Because the State of Hawaii is getting a 14 trillion dollar federal grant for sea turtle research, suddenly every one is suspicious!


20 posted on 11/24/2008 10:06:57 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obams success proves that Ayers type violence is respected by the left. Let's do likewise.)
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To: pissant

“Is the President-Elect Blackmail-able Over His Birth Certificate?”

We don’t know. He won’t let us see it.


21 posted on 11/24/2008 10:15:49 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: pissant

Does someone have the email address of UCLA law prof and blogger Eugene Volokh because I do believe he isn’t aware of the law at the time of Obama’s birth.


22 posted on 11/24/2008 10:17:53 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: LucyT

Yikes... have never thought of the blackmail thing before, This just keeps getting worser n worser ;(


23 posted on 11/24/2008 10:32:32 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Kevmo
we’d be inundated with ridiculous claims if your supposition were true.

Um, you have heard of the Internet, right?

24 posted on 11/24/2008 10:33:54 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: pissant

How is it going to be exposed? People have tried that. It doesn’t work.


26 posted on 11/24/2008 11:03:28 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: pissant

In addition to shady birth circumstances, the President-Elect also has half-siblings and other relatives all over the world, any of whom is a potential kidnapping victim and thereby an international crisis waiting to happen.

Half of America can really pick a winner, eh?


27 posted on 11/24/2008 11:04:41 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: pissant

There could be a home movie of Barry’s mother giving birth on the Sphinx, holding a swastika in one hand and burning the flag in the other. It just doesn’t matter. No one cares. As far as 52.4% of the American electorate, and 100% of the news media is concerned, Obama is the mesiah.

It’s going to be that way for the next four years. We all better just hunker down and pray we’ll make it to the next election before being placed in re-education camps or worse.


28 posted on 11/24/2008 11:16:36 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: pissant
Is the President-Elect Blackmail-able Over His Birth Certificate?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Shite-o-blast!

"The One" has already spent over 1 million bucks hiding his birth record. At one time he was black mailable, but Now? He is White Mailable.

I'd say you would receive a visit from the SS if you as a US citizen tried to black mail Obama.

And if it came from a foreigner, the CIA or FBI would be on them like fleas on a dog.

No , do not black mail him, JUST post his birth record all over the web. You could become a millionaire on book royalties and paid appearances on Oprah as a nouveau Color Purple geneologist.

Obamas birth record has become the Golden Fleece of Paparazis around the world.Kenya is awash with them.

Only a matter of time before the money talks and the bullshite walks.That is White-Mail! LOL. The birth record soon will be born.

29 posted on 11/24/2008 11:21:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: pissant

Is he blackmail-able due to nystery of his place of birth/citizenship status?

Why yes, yes he is.

Is he blackmail-able about events in his past such as, for instance, drug addiction, AIDS (not saying he has it,just for the sake of argument, since his medical records are unavailable), Islamic terrorist ol’ buddies, NOI involvement, bi or otherwise sexual escapades, illegal deals with Chicago thugs, illegal money from foreign sources etc?

Why yes, yes he is.


30 posted on 11/24/2008 11:41:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: nickcarraway

I pretty much expect that people within the CIA, FBI, etc. have looked over that online copy. And if they came to the same conclusions as the guy who says it was a fraud based on a manipulated scan of other COLBs, then they have two options. Go public with this information, or blackmail Obama for their own agenda.


31 posted on 11/25/2008 12:53:45 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“The Somalia Pirates, Odinga, Amadamnnutjob (Amadenajab), Hugo in Venezula, the mob, the Democrats, the Republicans, the list goes on and on.

Hillary Rodham Clinton.


32 posted on 11/25/2008 2:22:05 AM PST by eCSMaster
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To: LifeComesFirst

“I pretty much expect that people within the CIA, FBI, etc. have looked over that online copy. And if they came to the same conclusions as the guy who says it was a fraud based on a manipulated scan of other COLBs, then they have two options. Go public with this information, or blackmail Obama for their own agenda.”

Of course, Obama may be 2 steps ahead of everyone. His recent pick to head up CIA previously headed the company implicated in messing around with Obama’s passport photos!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1990244/posts

So...did John Brennan get named to Obama’s transition team and then get assigned the CIA Director plum because he threatened to go public with what he knew?

Or is this yet another example of Obama seeking to hold his potential enemies close? Having Brennan as CIA Director gives Obama far more leverage over Brennan’s future reputation/career are concerned than if he remained outside of government.

In short, who is blackmailing whom? We may never know.


33 posted on 11/25/2008 5:27:47 AM PST by DrC
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To: Big_Monkey

I heard in a city in FL they are renaming a street after Obama. It used to be named after some guy named George Washington. I mean, who the heck is that? Does anyone know?


34 posted on 11/25/2008 6:13:02 AM PST by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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To: pissant

It is very obvious that the Clintoon Thugs have blackmailed Zer0 the magical 0re0 with all the Clintoon Thugs being in charge.


35 posted on 11/25/2008 7:01:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (This is the link to Leo Donofrio's new website: http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com)
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To: LifeComesFirst; pissant; BIGLOOK; Calpernia; ASA Vet; LonePalm; PhilDragoo; Ernest_at_the_Beach

“I pretty much expect that people within the CIA, FBI, etc. have looked over that online copy. And if they came to the same conclusions as the guy who says it was a fraud based on a manipulated scan of other COLBs, then they have two options. Go public with this information, or blackmail Obama for their own agenda.”

Oh, yes the old J Edgar Hoover routine, “Mr President, I have your real COLB. Do you want to see it before we discuss my budget and personal goals.”


36 posted on 11/25/2008 7:07:03 AM PST by Grampa Dave (This is the link to Leo Donofrio's new website: http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com)
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To: BIGLOOK

Are you getting in line for some of the special Hawaii Bailout Billions from Zer0 the Magical 0re0!


37 posted on 11/25/2008 7:08:26 AM PST by Grampa Dave (This is the link to Leo Donofrio's new website: http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com)
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To: Big_Monkey

Obviously, we care. And he’s going to have to cough it up.


38 posted on 11/25/2008 7:10:50 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: nickcarraway

First, if he doesn’t come clean and release it due to the current lawsuits, then he is illegitimate, and conservatives need to treat him that way. 2nd, others can obtain his records the old fashioned way. Bribe someone who works for the Hawaii records Dept.


39 posted on 11/25/2008 7:13:06 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Grampa Dave

Hmmm. If Meuller or Mukasey are asked to stay on......


40 posted on 11/25/2008 7:15:03 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

“Hmmm. If Mueller or Mukasey are asked to stay on......”

It will be very interesting.

Now, if you had a copy of the real COLB, you could name your position in the Change Administration.


41 posted on 11/25/2008 7:28:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (This is the link to Leo Donofrio's new website: http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

Does a fat puppy fart?


42 posted on 11/25/2008 7:35:20 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Kevmo

My theory is they were being paid upfront to start new rumours that eventually wwould be shown to fizzle. That is the Axelrod way. That way they can try to lump the legit problems in with those internet crazies, as just more rumor mongering.


43 posted on 11/25/2008 7:38:23 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Interesting theory. Both of our theories involve a payoff to AIP. Only someone with really big bucks would be able to penetrate the veil either way.


44 posted on 11/25/2008 8:49:38 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: ReignOfError

OK, where are these ridiculous claims on the same level as API? How many of them have Supreme Court cases on the docket?


45 posted on 11/25/2008 8:56:34 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: pissant

Hmmmm try this on..

If Obama is NOT a qualified candidate for president...then we’ve been Trojaned Horsed bigger than Troy.His campaign waqs financed “uniquely” shall we say.In fact much of it is untraceable via “small” donors...and may well reflect substantial foreign interest. Now suppose that Obama is not just an ineligible presidential candidate...but actually is a citizen of another country....Kenya...Indonesia..wherever...that country it would seem has just bought the US Armed Forces for 600 million cool ones while having snookered the fat and lazy Americans....


46 posted on 11/25/2008 9:06:10 AM PST by mo
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To: LifeComesFirst
I pretty much expect that people within the CIA, FBI, etc. have looked over that online copy. And if they came to the same conclusions as the guy who says it was a fraud based on a manipulated scan of other COLBs, then they have two options.

You are, of course, referring to TechDude, right?

47 posted on 11/25/2008 11:44:09 AM PST by Polarik
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To: pissant
Yuo have to wonder who, and when, someone within the Company ("Prison Break" style) comes forth and spills the beans about the birth certificate.

Whomever that person is, will be looking at a million-dollar book deal, a million-dollar bounty on his or her head, or will see that the Company has just the right leverage to prevent that from ever happening.

I would like to know, though, who cooked up this phony COLB scheme in the first place?

48 posted on 11/25/2008 11:47:29 AM PST by Polarik
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To: Polarik

I would too. But whoever created it certainly had Hussein Osama’s blessing. Both need to go to jail.


49 posted on 11/25/2008 11:50:53 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

BTTT


50 posted on 11/25/2008 2:24:59 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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