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“NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”:DEFINED BY 14TH AMENDMENT FRAMERS AND IN TREATISE RELIED ON BY SCALIA
Natural Born Citizen ^ | 12-11-08 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 12/11/2008 3:30:02 PM PST by STARWISE

PREAMBLE

This week has been quite enlightening as to the blatantly obvious fact that our “Fourth Estate” press corps have been transmogrified into propaganda ponies polly wanna crackering whatever may be handed down to them from “The One Corporation - your source for everything…” (cue eery theme tune). They don’t report the news anymore. No. Now they tell you what they want the news to be. There’s a huge difference.

For the record, my law suit was brought to remove three candidates from the ballots - three candidates who have big Constitutional issues as to their eligibility.

At the time of his birth, Obama was a British/Kenyan citizen by descent of his father. Because I pointed out pesky international laws which governed his citizenship due to the fact that a father has every legal right in the world to have the laws of his nation apply to his son, I have been labeled a conspiracy freakoid of nature.

Never mind that I included demands for Panama John McCain and the Nicaraguan born Roger Calero to also be removed from our ballots. No, they don’t want to talk about that do they - because it would blow the “he’s just another Obama hater” mantra clear out of play.

A citizen (me) raised the Constitutional issue of first impression as to the meaning of “natural born Citizen” in Article 2, Section 1, of the United States Constitution - that ultimate pesky legal document for those who would rather “be” the law instead of following it.

What are the Fourth Estate propagandists worried about? Thou doth protest too much. Me thinks so. Why? Because the law is against their man - it indicates Barack Obama is not a natural born Citizen of the United States. And most of the media pundits have basically agreed by default. I say this because when yelling and mocking the issue, their main argument is not that the law is on their side (they know it isn’t), but rather that the law shouldn’t be discussed at all.

PRESIDENTIAL PRECEDENT

Other than the fraud perpetrated by Chester Arthur (see prior stories), every post grandfather clause President of this nation was born in the United States to parents who were US Citizens.

In their wisdom, they recognized the danger in having people born under the jurisdiction of another country taking the role of commander in chief.

They did this recognizing that multitudes of loyal men wouldn’t be eligible, but they also knew that they couldn’t see into the soul of all possible candidates, so just to be safe, they put a restriction in the Document which is there to protect us from a sneak attack in the oval office by somebody who might have loyalty to another nation.

The framers themselves were good men, loyal to this infant nation, but they recognized that people like them had to be excluded from future Presidential eligibility as an order of protection.

McCain and Obama know that.

And in my stay application, I never accused either man of disloyalty. Quite the opposite.

*snip*

As to John McCain they would have found this:

Senator John McCain is an American patriot who has valiantly suffered more for this country than most of us ever will.

He has shown bravery beyond that which the country has any right to ask, and it is with very deep and sincere regret that I respectfully request that this Honorable Court order the Secretaries of the several States to remove John McCain’s name from the ballots.

I couldn’t have shown the candidates more respect. But both of them should have known that if either were to become President - despite the loyalty they have for this country - the dam would be broken and the waters of foreign influence would be forever capable of drowning our national sovereignty and placing our military in the hands of enemies from within.

IT’S NOT ABOUT OBAMA OR McCAIN - IT’S ABOUT WHO COMES NEXT. THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT AND FALLEN ON THEIR PRESIDENTIAL SWORDS TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1600penn; birthcertificate; certifigate; donofrio; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile; scalia
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TMSuchman

Yes, both of McCain’s parents were US Citizens.

But you refuse to understand their brat of a son was born in the Republic of Panama.

Why do you think it was necessary for him to lie and say in his stupid book (whoever wrote it for him) he was born in Coco Solo, Canal Zone? He thought because of his ego no one would know the difference between Panama and the Canal Zone and thought he could be president.

By Panamanian law, having been born in Colon he is a Panamanian citizen. In other words, at birth, he was dual citizen.


21 posted on 12/11/2008 4:20:12 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for posting this.

I absolutely agree with the position taken by Leo Donoforio in regards to the definition of “natural born citizen” in the Constitution.

If the Framers had wanted to say “anyone born on U.S. soil” then they would of said that but instead they used a term that was defined just as Leo said.

Those who want this issue to go away are simply showing a disregard for our Constitution, imo, simply because they feel like it is futile or are afraid of the unrest that this issue may cause.


22 posted on 12/11/2008 4:23:32 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TMSuchman

P.S.

One cannot renounce one’s Panamanian citizenship. Therefore, don’t try that angle.


23 posted on 12/11/2008 4:23:54 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Shoot all activist judges and get back to adjudicating the laws the way they were meant to be.


24 posted on 12/11/2008 4:31:41 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping to this very well written piece by Donofrio. I have fallen behind on all the BC stuff with the Blago Bling stories, but plan to catch up as soon as possible! Hubby wants the computer tonight, so hopefully later I can get it back...lol.

BTW...Don’t you just love Scalia! He is my fav justice. It should comfort us all that a man of such intellectual depth,integrity and loyalty to our country and constitution is sitting in the highest court in our land!


25 posted on 12/11/2008 4:37:05 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: trumandogz

Is this true? I’m sorry to hear about Jindal. He’s a great conservative.


26 posted on 12/11/2008 4:39:02 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: B4Ranch

The fact of the matter is that at this point this is a battle between activist justices and orginalist justices.

How will the orginalist justices (Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito) go down in history?

This is a case whereas they have to know that our Constitution is being disregarded. They also have to know that this is a hot potato, so to speak. Will they go down in history as true orginalist judges who stood up for the Constitution and the rule of law? Or will they cave?

Stay tuned.


27 posted on 12/11/2008 4:41:35 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: STARWISE
IT’S NOT ABOUT OBAMA OR McCAIN - IT’S ABOUT WHO COMES NEXT. THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT AND FALLEN ON THEIR PRESIDENTIAL SWORDS TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY!

Now, Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger can run for US el presidente in 2112! They can run the pro Gay/Green Governator with the Presidente of Mexico for co el Presidentes of the 57 states.

With the voters in Mexico, South America, Canada, Europe, Iran and "new voters" in the Former USA, the Governator can be co presidente with the Mexican Presidente for life.

They will win by 200 million votes, and that settles that. No one will challenge either one including a lot of Freepers as they will fear riots if the constitution is considered. Just Move on to 2040.

28 posted on 12/11/2008 4:42:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals or foriegn or domestic terrorists or both?)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping.

My law suit was meant to return the election to the Constitution. It’s the Republican and Democratic parties that overturned the election stuffing two ineligible candidates down our throats with no regard whatsoever to the future precedent it would set.
***A very admirable goal.


29 posted on 12/11/2008 4:43:29 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo

I really like your sig....

Palin/Hunter 2012


30 posted on 12/11/2008 4:45:50 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: trumandogz
However, both Jindal and Obama are qualified to be president

As is Obama, assuming he was born in Hawaii. But Donofrio would disagree with us on all three counts.

31 posted on 12/11/2008 4:51:43 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

There was a federal law during 1929 which stated that any persons being born in or on the canal zone of U.S. Military parents they are U.S. Citizens. I can not remember when this law was cancelled or changed though. That was during a time when they were our friends/allies. The law was done for the military members & the construction & maint. personel who came down from the States, for the Canal zone duty...


32 posted on 12/11/2008 4:52:23 PM PST by TMSuchman (If you strike me down, I'll just become more powerful than you'll ever imagine!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I also will NOT argue the point that Sen. McCain is a RINO! That is an already given point!


33 posted on 12/11/2008 4:54:42 PM PST by TMSuchman (Don't blame me! I voted for SARAH!)
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To: STARWISE

present


34 posted on 12/11/2008 4:55:11 PM PST by gunnyg
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To: TMSuchman

Sen Obama’s Father ( we think) was a Kenyan Citizen...


35 posted on 12/11/2008 4:58:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: gunnyg

Placemarker ... waiting for Joe Thunder’s radio program tonight at 9PM Eastern on Plainds Radio


36 posted on 12/11/2008 4:59:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Is that sort of like...you can’t renounce your Islam religion?


37 posted on 12/11/2008 4:59:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: TheBigIf

Thanks. With an 8 year administration by Palin & 8 by Hunter, I figure we have awesome talent until 2028. By then we should be able to get another real conservative on the ticket. Maybe Jindal would have gotten his citizenship questions answered by then.


38 posted on 12/11/2008 5:03:16 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: TMSuchman

Again, you refuse to accept he was not born in the Canal Zone.

He was born in Colon, Republic of Panaman. These at that time were two different countries.

What is the problem in accepting this?

I am not being rude. I am just amazed as to why the refusal to accept reality. You are not the only one.


39 posted on 12/11/2008 5:03:49 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sen Obama’s Father ( we think) was a Kenyan Citizen...

So? If he was born in Hawaii then he's a natural born U.S. citizen, and the Supreme Court has ruled that the nationality of his father has no impact on that.

40 posted on 12/11/2008 5:05:19 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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