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Why Obama's BC was Sealed?
Hawaii State Legislature ^ | 12/26/2008 | ..phiLip..

Posted on 12/26/2008 3:50:39 AM PST by usar91B

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To: nobama08

In the real world—that is, what used to be the “real world” until the press set new rules where Barack Obama is concerned....what he would have to lose is huge credibility and most likely not winning the election by not being forthcoming and just releasing his BC.

We are in an alternate reality with so many new young journalists agog over Obama. They have a naive, sliding scale of morality and ethics when their celebrity horse runs-—and their engineering will slide us all into a much more problematic world where no moral “absolutes”—other than vanity: weight, beauty, health matters—exist.


41 posted on 12/26/2008 6:24:19 AM PST by dascallie
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To: RetiredArmy
The 1,234th posting of the birth certificate story.

...which could be settled very easily.

42 posted on 12/26/2008 6:27:07 AM PST by TankerKC (Wal-Mart haters: It IS NOT OK to trample someone.)
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To: dascallie
...When in fact, not only is the so-called COLB ( Certificate of Live Birth)...

The State of Hawaii contributes to confusion with the naming of the two types of "COLB" one can obtain from them.

One, the type presented on Obama's "Fight the Smears" website, is the "CERTIFICATION of Live Birth," incorrectly identified by you as the "CERTIFICATE of Live Birth". This CERTIFICATION lacks crucial details such as Hospital of Birth, abd the name of the Attending Physician. These details are found on another document, called a "CERTIFICATE of Live Birth", identified by you aas a "Birth Certificate".

Both these documents are abbreviated with the same four letters "COLB", thereby making coherent discussion even more problematic.

What the world need to see is nothing more or less than the official, archival, unaltered, vault copy of Obama's "CERTIFICATE of Live Birth".

43 posted on 12/26/2008 6:44:52 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

Thanks for the clarification—you’re right, these murky definitions have allowed Obama a world of wiggle room for double speak.

Normally, a savvy body of law would hold him accountable and demand clarity.

This is beyond surreal.


44 posted on 12/26/2008 6:48:39 AM PST by dascallie
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To: usar91B

OK. So what can be done now to unseal the freaking bc? An order from the governor of Hawaii? A ruling from a judge? What? Time is running out before hear him say, “I, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, do solemnly swear...”.


45 posted on 12/26/2008 6:59:55 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: usar91B
The statutes you cite are the reasons everyone is asking for a certified vault copy of O's BC. Means it is possible for him to have a certificate of birth on file in Hawaii showing he was born in Kenya.

Governor Lindle sealed his birth record to keep the press and others from obtaining a copy without O's consent. Speculation also is that she sealed it so no-one could get their hands on it and make changes.

Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor

46 posted on 12/26/2008 7:05:21 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: usar91B
certificate of birth for a person born in a foreign country and for whom a final decree of adoption has been entered in a court of competent jurisdiction in Hawaii

Is anyone claiming that this would have applied to Obama?

ML/NJ

47 posted on 12/26/2008 8:31:44 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: DooDahhhh
Who is responsible to determine that he is qualified to be President???

So far, there appears to be "no controlling legal authority." The conditions were considered so clear, and the office so sacred, that it was assumed no one would try to pull a fast one, because there would be bipartisan outrage. This is obviously no longer the case.

48 posted on 12/26/2008 9:04:17 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: DooDahhhh
"Who is responsible to determine that he is qualified to be President???"

Ultimately, the electoral college.

49 posted on 12/26/2008 9:06:00 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: valkyry1
Ah, but it wasn't just his certificate of live birth. He had an army of lawyers and detectives (and an ex-CIA station chief who works for him who accessed his passport records surreptitiously) destroying any trail of his adult life, all college entrance applications, requests for tuition or scholarship funding, and simple org. memberships in college! This is the manchurian candidate played large at the will of the democrat party criminal enterprise. The few scraps of paper so far found unaltered show the man is a lying perjurer and more than willing to post a forgery to game the system for election entitlements and gathering illegal donations from overseas.

The democrap party decided to oust the clintoon goons by running an affirmative action fraud for president. They assumed it was the democrap year so they could do ads they damn well pleased. And frankly, they can because there are no testicles left int eh Republican party and the SCOTUS is too cowardly to actually honor their sworn oath to defend and uphold the Constitution. And to top it all off, a fifth column enemy works in the media to prevent the truth of the democrat criminality from ever getting tot he American people so We The People are not sovereigns any longer. We are a ruled people.

50 posted on 12/26/2008 9:16:21 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: autumnraine

And since he lied on his Illinois Bar application, perjuring himself to game the system there, how does his sworn statement on anything have any credulity? He’s a lying POS now the poseur elect.


51 posted on 12/26/2008 9:18:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: TruthWillWin
WND is no longer a credilbe source:

For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”
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For more information, contact:
Janice Okubo
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

We are in the midst of a Constitutional crisis, and as usual where democrat criminal enterprises are at stake, the media is avoiding the truth at every turn, so the American people do not realize this is in fact an usurpation of their sovereignty in the making, appointing an affiramtivea ction candidate who is not only not Constitutionally eligible but is a proven lying perjurer who cannot be trausted when taking an oath, especially an oath to defend and uphold OUR Constitution.

52 posted on 12/26/2008 9:36:16 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Sherman Logan

There is no record of their marriage. And before he “married” Obama’s mother, he already had a wife in Kenya, of some sort.


53 posted on 12/26/2008 3:39:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: usar91B
SOP.

Whenever a Hawaiian birth certificate is requested for a child born outside of Hawaii, the parent has to surrender the existing birth certificate which is then sealed and the new one is issued.

The same procedure is used for requesting a change to an existing birth certificate.

Which can be done by anyone at any age, if they provide proof of residency in Hawaii for one year prior.

The $64,000 question is from which country is Obama's original BC.

54 posted on 12/26/2008 6:04:25 PM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: dascallie

“It seems clear Obama has something to hide. Why else would he spend 800 thousand dollars with 3 law firms to ensure his BC is not released.”

Does anyone have a credible link actually documenting the amounts Obama is spending on legal fees associated with his birth certificate?


55 posted on 12/26/2008 7:30:14 PM PST by 4FreeSpeach
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To: DooDahhhh
Who is responsible to determine that he is qualified to be President???

According to Senator Mel Martinez, only the voters need vet him. Don't let any old pesky Constitution get in the way of politics as usual.

Presidential candidates are vetted by voters at least twice - first in the primary elections and again in the general election. President-Elect Obama won the Democratic Party’s nomination after one of the most fiercely contested presidential primaries in American history. And, he has now been duly elected by the majority of voters in the United States. Throughout both the primary and general election, concerns about Mr. Obama’s birthplace were raised. The voters have made clear their view that Mr. Obama meets the qualifications to hold the office of President. After he is sworn into office, Mr. Obama will be our nation’s President and I intend to bestow upon him the honor and respect due any man who holds that Office.
56 posted on 12/26/2008 7:48:58 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: MHGinTN

So my question is “why aren’t we out in the streets in the millions protesting?”. I hope it changes from a question to a statement.


57 posted on 12/26/2008 8:23:33 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Polarik

Ok, Thanks.

That was the purpose of my question. Was it SOP for the Hawaiian govt. or was it done at the request of Obama/DNC/Soros etc..? If it was sealed by SOP doesn’t that indicate he is indeed a foreigner?

I think we should have thousands camped at SCOTUS and Congress demanding a clear answer. Is there nothing else we can do??


58 posted on 12/27/2008 12:38:40 AM PST by usar91B (Attention to detail, team.. work as a team.)
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To: Cheerio

WEll, GOOd for you, I will not.


59 posted on 12/27/2008 3:31:22 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: usar91B
It was SOP for the Hawaiian government to seal all birth certificates that were exchanged for new ones, regardless of where that person was born -- even if they were born in Hawaii.

In fact, when Hawaii became a state in 1959, there were a whole lot of old BC's that read, Territory of Hawaii, exchanged for new BC's that read, State of Hawaii, and had the State seal on them.

60 posted on 12/27/2008 5:37:25 AM PST by Polarik (quote)
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