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Did Bush open a door on his way out?.... Orly strikes again.
Orly ^ | 1/19/09

Posted on 01/19/2009 3:08:12 PM PST by Sorry screen name in use

A new action filed by Orly Taitz, ESQ based on the Executive Order by President Bush for the CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA Santa Ana Division

Alan Keyes, PhD., Wiley S. Drake, and Markham Robinson,

Plaintiffs

v.

Barack H. Obama, a/k/a Barack H. Obama, II a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro; Condoleeza Rice, in her capacity as Secretary of State; Robert Mueller, in his capacity as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and Michael W. Hager, in his capacity as Acting Director, Office of Personnel Management; and DOES 1-100 Defendants.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 911turthers; bho2008; birthcertificate; birthers; blackhelicopters; certifigate; conspiracytheories; donquixote; eligibility; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; scotus; tinfoilhats
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1 posted on 01/19/2009 3:08:14 PM PST by Sorry screen name in use
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To: Sorry screen name in use

A little bit too late as as the MESSIAH has arrived!


2 posted on 01/19/2009 3:12:47 PM PST by ncfool (ObaBama stands for The New United Socialist State or "TNUSSA")
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To: Sorry screen name in use

For the record...


MONDAY, JANUARY 19, 2009

A new action filed by Orly Taitz, ESQ based on the Executive Order by President Bush

for the CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
Santa Ana Division

Alan Keyes, PhD., Wiley S. Drake, and Markham Robinson,

Plaintiffs

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Barack H. Obama, a/k/a Barack H. Obama, II a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro; Condoleeza Rice, in her capacity as Secretary of State; Robert Mueller, in his capacity as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and Michael W. Hager, in his capacity as Acting Director, Office of Personnel Management; and DOES 1-100

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Civil Action No.

COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY ACTION, INJUNCTION, AND COMMON LAW WRIT OF ALTERNATIVE MANDAMUS

Plaintiffs, Alan Keyes, PhD., a resident of the State of Maryland, and Wiley S. Drake, and Markham Robinson, each a resident of the State of California, all Petitioners herein, sue Defendants, Barack H. Obama, a/k/a Barack H. Obama, II, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Obama; Condoleeza Rice, in her capacity as Secretary of State; Robert Mueller, in his capacity as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and Michael W. Hager, in his capacity as Acting Director, Office of Personnel Management; and allege:
I.
Parties

1. Alan Keyes, PhD., Plaintiff herein, is the Presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot;

2. Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr., Plaintiff herein, is the Vice Presidential candidate of the American Independent Party in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot;

3. Markham Robinson, Plaintiff herein, is a Certified California Elector of the American Independent Party, Vice Chairman of the America’s Independent Party, and Chairman of the American Independent Party);

4. Defendant Barack H. Obama, II, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Obama, (hereafter ‘Obama’) appeared on the California ballot as a presidential candidate in the presidential election of November, 2008.

5. Defendant Condoleeza Rice is the appointed and acting Secretary of State of the United States, and as such is charged with and has the care, custody and control of passports and passport records for the United States of America, and is charged with enforcement of immigration. 8 USC 1104 provides in part:

“Sec. 1104. Powers and duties of Secretary of State

(a) Powers and duties

The Secretary of State shall be charged with the administration and
the enforcement of the provisions of this chapter and all other
immigration and nationality laws relating to (1) the powers, duties, and
functions of diplomatic and consular officers of the United States,
except those powers, duties, and functions conferred upon the consular
officers relating to the granting or refusal of visas; (2) the powers,
duties, and functions of the Administrator; and (3) the determination of
nationality of a person not in the United States. He shall establish
such regulations; prescribe such forms of reports, entries and other
papers; issue such instructions; and perform such other acts as he deems
necessary for carrying out such provisions. He is authorized to confer
or impose upon any employee of the United States, with the consent of
the head of the department or independent establishment under whose
jurisdiction the employee is serving, any of the powers, functions, or
duties conferred or imposed by this chapter or regulations issued
thereunder upon officers or employees of the Department of State or of
the American Foreign Service.

(b) Designation and duties of Administrator

The Secretary of State shall designate an Administrator who shall be
a citizen of the United States, qualified by experience. The
Administrator shall maintain close liaison with the appropriate
committees of Congress in order that they may be advised regarding the
administration of this chapter by consular officers. The Administrator
shall be charged with any and all responsibility and authority in the
administration of this chapter which are conferred on the Secretary of
State as may be delegated to the Administrator by the Secretary of State
or which may be prescribed by the Secretary of State, and shall perform
such other duties as the Secretary of State may prescribe.

(c) Passport Office, Visa Office, and other offices; directors

Within the Department of State there shall be a Passport Office, a
Visa Office, and such other offices as the Secretary of State may deem
to be appropriate, each office to be headed by a director. The Directors
of the Passport Office and the Visa Office shall be experienced in the
administration of the nationality and immigration laws.”

6. Defendant Robert Mueller is the appointed and acting Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is charged with law enforcement and investigations, among other things, in the areas of elections, governmental corruption, and terrorist acts against the United States of America, and has broad investigative powers in order to perform its duties. 28 USC 535 provides:

“Sec. 535. Investigation of crimes involving Government officers
and employees; limitations

“(a) The Attorney General and the Federal Bureau of Investigation may
investigate any violation of Federal criminal law involving Government
officers and employees—

(1) notwithstanding any other provision of law; and

(2) without limiting the authority to investigate any matter
which is conferred on them or on a department or agency of the
Government.

“(b) Any information, allegation, matter, or complaint witnessed,
discovered, or received in a department or agency of the executive
branch of the Government relating to violations of Federal criminal law
involving Government officers and employees shall be expeditiously
reported to the Attorney General by the head of the department or
agency, or the witness, discoverer, or recipient, as appropriate,
unless—

(1) the responsibility to perform an investigation with respect
thereto is specifically assigned otherwise by another provision of
law; or

(2) as to any department or agency of the Government, the
Attorney General directs otherwise with respect to a specified class
of information, allegation, or complaint.

(c) This section does not limit—

(1) the authority of the military departments to investigate
persons or offenses over which the armed forces have jurisdiction
under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (chapter 47 of title 10);
or

(2) the primary authority of the Postmaster General to
investigate postal offenses.”

7. Defendant Michael W. Hager, in his capacity as Acting Director, Office of Personnel Management is charged with enforcement of the Executive Order referenced below.

II.

Legal Basis

8. January 16, 2009, President George W. Bush enacted an Executive Order providing for, in part, “Reinvestigating Individuals in Positions of Public Trust.” The Order in its entirety is attached hereto for reference as Exhibit “A.”

9. The Order provides in pertinent part that, “It is necessary to reinvestigate individuals in positions of public trust in order to ensure that they remain suitable for continued employment.”

10. The Order further provides in pertinent part:

“Sec. 5. Reinvestigation of Individuals in Positions of Public Trust. Individuals in positions of public trust shall be subject to reinvestigation under standards (including but not limited to the frequency of such reinvestigation) as determined by the Director of the Office of Personnel Management, to ensure their suitability for continued employment.

“Sec. 6. Responsibilities. (a) An agency shall report to the Office of Personnel Management the nature and results of the background investigation and fitness determination (or later changes to that determination) made on an individual, to the extent consistent with law.

“(b) The Director of the Office of Personnel Management is delegated authority to implement this order, including the authority to issue regulations and guidance governing suitability, or guidance related to fitness, as the Director determines appropriate.”

11. Article II, Section I of the United States Constitution, states, in pertinent part, as follows:

“No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

12. Title 18 Section 1001, United States Code provides in part:

“Sec. 1001. Statements or entries generally

(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any
matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or
judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and
willfully—

(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or
device a material fact;

(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or representation; or

(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same
to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement
or entry;

shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if
the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in
section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter
relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section
1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be
not more than 8 years.”

13. 3 United States Code (U.S.C.) Section 8 provides, “The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.”

14. Constitution Article VI of the Constitution of the United States, at paragraph 2 establishes: “The Constitution . . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby . . .”, preserving the inviolability of Constitution codified in Magna Carta (1215) Sect. 61. The Constitution grants all powers necessary to enforce its inviolability.

15. The right of petition for redress of grievances, securing the Constitution, guarantees each person standing to preserve the inviolability of the Constitution, as preserved in the U.S. Constitution Amendment I, in the Bill of Rights (1689), and as codified in Magna Carta (1215) Sect. 61.

III.

FACTS

16. Plaintiff Markham Robinson is a Certified California Elector of the American Independent Party, Vice Chairman of the America’s Independent Party, and Chairman of the American Independent Party); and has standing to maintain this action based upon the electoral statute quoted above, in that this federal statute confers upon each elector an affirmative duty to discover whether the candidate for President for which the elector is seeking election is a natural born citizen. Otherwise, the elector would not know if his vote was being cast in the “manner directed by the Constitution.”

17. Plaintiffs Alan Keyes, and Wiley S. Drake have standing to pursue this action as the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, respectively, of the American Independent Party, in the 2008 election, on the California State Ballot. Furthermore, each plaintiff has standing to uphold the inviolability of the Constitution.

18. Defendant Obama was been elected to the United States Office of the President, and confirmed by electors, without his citizenship being verified or proven.

19. To assume office, Obama must meet the qualifications specified for the Office of the President of the United States as set forth in the Constitution, which includes that he must be a “natural born” citizen, having sole allegiance to the United States as required to become Commander in Chief.

20. Defendant Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is a “natural born” citizen, and there is evidence leading a reasonable person to believe that it cannot be presumed that he is a natural born citizen, as shall be set forth hereafter.

21. There are other legal challenges before the Federal Courts regarding aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Party’s nominee for President.

22. The Defendants, and all of them, are charged with the care of records, or law enforcement as set forth above.

23. To date, Obama has both failed and refused to provide any documents to the Plaintiffs, the Secretary of State of California, or to the American people, for that matter, any documentation of his eligibility to serve as president of the United States, despite the many reasonable indications that he may lack such eligibility.

24. In his books, which are published and publicly available (‘Dreams of My Father’ and ‘The Audacity of Hope’) Obama has admitted that his father was a citizen of Kenya at the time of his birth. Obama thus had allegiance to Britain at birth.

25. In his books, Obama has admitted the age of his mother at the time of his birth to be 18.

26. In the event that Obama was not born in the United States, according to law at the time of his birth, he is not necessarily a citizen of the United States.

27. In his public comments in San Francisco to a group of voters in 2008, Obama stated that he had traveled to Pakistan in 1981.

28. In 1981 it was not legal for a United States citizen, presenting a United States passport to travel to Pakistan.

29. As a result of this admission, it is reasonable to believe that Obama presented a passport from another country, possibly Indonesia, and therefore, he is arguably not a United States citizen.

30. Plaintiffs reasonably believe that Obama traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport as a result of his having been adopted by his step father, Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, and taken the name of ‘Barry Soetoro’ in or around 1967.

31. Records show that Lolo Soetoro registered one ‘Barry Soetoro’ in elementary school in Indonesia, declaring his citizenship to be “Indonesian” and religion to be “Muslim”, and Obama admits his sojourn there in his writings. See Exhibit ‘B’ attached.

31. No evidence of any legal name change from ‘Barry Soetoro’ to ‘Barack Obama’ can be located through ordinary public records searches, and so adequate records must be produced and examined to determine whether or not Obama has violated the 18 USC 1001 by providing a false name or an alias in his bid for President of the United States.

32. From 1945, Indonesia has not allowed dual citizenship and, therefore, Ms. Dunham-Obama-Soetoro, Obama’s mother, had to relinquish her minor son’s U.S. citizenship in order to obtain Indonesian citizenship for him, which would, in itself, give him divided loyalties, a foreign allegiance, and make him ineligible to become President of the United States President.

33. Additionally, the United States did not allow dual citizenship with Indonesia at that time, as Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship, and it was prohibited by the Hague Convention of 1930, as interfering with the internal affairs of another sovereign country.

34. Consequently, upon return to the United States in and around 1971-1972, Obama would have been required to go through the then current immigration procedures to regain his U.S. citizenship. There is no record of him ever doing that. Even if he had done so, he would be considered a naturalized citizen, and not a natural born citizen.

35. A Hawaiian ‘Certification of Live Birth’ for one Barack Hussein Obama, II, has been posted on the Internet, in an attempt to quiet the concerns of the public, but the document fails to satisfy the burden of proof generated by and sustained by Obama, in that:

a. The original certified long form (“vault”) birth certificate as attested to by multiple witnesses has not been produced, and there has been no mandate from any authority to compel such production; and

b. The document posted on the internet is a scanned document, which could easily be changed or edited, using modern computer technology; and

c. The posted Certification of Live Birth has a different border than that shown on similar certificates produced around the same time by the office of vital records for the state of Hawaii; and

d. Assuming the document to be genuine, there is no prejudice to Obama in production of the original; and

e. The law in Hawaii in 1961, and for all births prior to 1972, (see Chapter 338-178, Hawaii Statutes) provided that a birth could be recorded in Hawaii even if the birth did not occur in Hawaii; and

f. Therefore, a long form (“vault”) birth certificate, showing the hospital where the birth took place, the name of a delivering physician, the witnesses attesting to the certificate, and other pertinent verifying information, and not an abstract certificate is required to demonstrate the birth of Obama in Hawaii.

36. Plaintiffs have been put on notice that there is further evidence available, of which this court could take judicial notice, that places the citizenship and eligibility of Obama in serious question, the facts for such evidence being as follows:

a. On August 21, 2008, Mr. Phillip J. Berg, former Deputy Attorney General of the State of Pennsylvania, filed a legal action against Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee.

b. With his action, and in the subsequent appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States, Mr. Berg provided documents to the effect that Mr. Obama was born in what is now Kenya (the British East African Protectorate of Zanzibar at the time) and that his paternal grandmother was present at his birth. Mr. Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii.

c. According to statements made by his half-sister, Maya Soetoro Ng, he was born in Kapiolani Hospital in Hawaii.

d. According to his biography posted on Wikipedia, Senator Obama was born in Queens Hospital in Hawaii.

e. In the context of this and other cases filed, Mr. Obama has refused to provide his original birth certificate, even though, in his book, Dreams of My Father, page 26, he states, “… I found the article folded between my birth certificate and old immunization records…” which shows that he clearly has his birth certificate, or that he lied in his book.

d. Particularly telling is the fact that not one single person has come forward, not a doctor, not a nurse, not a hospital administrator, nor anyone else, to state that he or she was present during this birth, except for Obama’s paternal grandmother, who affirmed that she “was present when he was born in Kenya.”

e. Additionally, when Mr. Berg served subpoenas on the hospitals mentioned above, Mr. Obama refused to sign a consent form that would allow the hospitals to release any of his information.

f. Instead, Mr. Obama has hired three law firms to defend himself, and has challenged the action by Mr. Berg on a technicality, claiming that an ordinary citizen does not have standing to bring the suit.

IV.

RELIEF SOUGHT

37. Based upon the above, and in light of the fact that the President of the United States is its chief law enforcement officer, Defendant Obama has the ethical and Constitutional duty to produce records sufficient to demonstrate he is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of and act as President of the United States.

38. In the absence of such proof, the electoral college having elected Defendant Obama to President elect, the President elect, must be determined to have failed to qualify, whereby the Vice President becomes the Acting President under U.S. Constitution Amendment 20.

39. Plaintiffs seek the affirmative act of production of documents as against Defendant Obama, to verify that he constitutionally qualifies for the office of President of the United States, and in failure thereof, a direct mandate to the public officials herein named to demand the production of such records from the public and private officials who maintain them; and such other relief as this Court may deem proper.

40. It is the duty of the Defendants Rice and Mueller to use the assets of the people of the United States placed in their control as public guardians to produce or compel production by the holders of such documents, the following:

a. Original long form (“vault”) Birth Certificate for Barack H. Obama, a.k.a Barry Soetoro, and each and every birth Certificate and subsequent version or any birth Certificate for that person so known at this time, regardless of the name shown thereon or given at birth; and

b. Any and all emigration and immigration documents, port of entry documents regarding the travels to and from the United States showing the citizenship status and visa status of Barack H. Obama, or Barry Soetoro, or any permutation on those names; and

c. Any and all university and/or college records and/or transcripts that would show the application for admission, the application for financial aid, and the citizenship of one Barack H. Obama, II and/or Barry Soetoro, or any permutation on those names; and

d. Any other such documentation which will cast light upon the truth of the matter.

41. It is the duty of Defendant Hager to comply with the Executive Order cited above.

42. Failing to officially and publicly validate the status of the citizenship claims of Obama will jeopardize the security of the United States, will perpetuate an unconstitutional election to stand in the place of a possibly legal election, cast a pall of doubt on the election process and taint the election results themselves.

43. Plaintiffs Keyes and Drake have been irreparably harmed by being unable to compete in a fair and unbiased election.

44. Plaintiff Robinson has been harmed in that he was not be able to perform his duties as an Elector in voting for the candidate that is eligible to become the President of the United States under the law.

45. Plaintiff Keyes has additionally suffered substantial harm due to the following circumstances:

a. In 2006 Plaintiff Keys was a runner-up in a US senate race from the state of Illinois to Defendant Obama.

b. If indeed the Obama is not a citizen of the United States, then he is not a legal naturalized citizen either and cannot be a United States senator either.

c. In this case Plaintiff Keyes would be sworn as a United States senator as a runner up in the prior election. This logically means that Plaintiff Keyes will suffer immediate specific damage without this question being resolved.

First Cause of Action – Declaratory Relief

46. Plaintiffs reallege paragraphs 1 through 45 and pray this Court will declare whether under Article II, Section 1, and Amendment 20 Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, Defendant Barack H. Obama is a natural born citizen and that Plaintiffs’ attorneys are entitled to a reasonable fee; and

47. Grant a judgment including costs of this proceeding and fees as are applicable by law; and such further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

Second Cause of Action - Injunction

48. Plaintiffs reallege paragraphs 1 through 45 and pray this Court will determine that the inauguration set for January 20, 2009 should be stayed pending the outcome of this, and similar litigation, determining that the Plaintiff has a substantial likelihood of success on the merits, that under Article II, Section 1 and Amendment 20 Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, Defendant Barack H. Obama is not a natural born citizen and has not qualified, and that Plaintiffs’ attorneys are entitled to a reasonable fee; and

49. Grant a judgment including costs of this proceeding and fees as are applicable by law; and such further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

Third Cause of Action – Common Law Writ of Mandamus

50. Plaintiffs reallege paragraphs 1 through 45 and pray this Court will find grounds to issue a common law alternative writ of mandamus and thereby direct Defendants Rice, Hager, and Mueller to produce, or compel production of the documents as set forth in paragraph 40 hereof; and

51. Determine that Plaintiffs’ attorneys are entitled to a reasonable fee; and

52. Grant a judgment including costs of this proceeding and fees as are applicable by law; and such further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

Respectfully submitted on January 19, 2009.
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Date: 01.19.09.

________________________________________

ORLY TAITZ, Esq. (SBN 223433)
26302 La Paz
Mission Viejo Ca 92691
Telephone: (949) 683-5411
Facsimile: (949) 586-2082

Attorney for Plaintiff

Keyes, Drake, and Robinson v. Obama, Rice, Mueller, Hager, et al
Santa Ana Division Central District Court
1-053 Ronald Reagan Federal Building
And United States Court House
411 West Fourth Street
Santa Ana CA 92701

Attachment to:
Notice to Consumer or Employee

LIST OF SERVICE

Barack Hussein Obama
Blair House
1651 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington, DC 20503-0005

Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of State
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street Northwest
Washington, DC 20520
Phone: 202-647-4000

Robert S. Mueller, III
Director
Federal Bureau of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

Michael W. Hager
Acting Director
The Office of Personnel Management
1900 E. Street, NW
Washington, DC 20415

POSTED BY ORLY TAITZ, DDS ESQ. AT 2:23 PM


The formatting was not that good in the article, so I hope this comes through okay...


3 posted on 01/19/2009 3:22:20 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Sorry screen name in use

I believe that Dr. Taitz is going to get somewhere with this Obama non-citizenship issue.


4 posted on 01/19/2009 3:23:47 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Sorry screen name in use

Any explanation in simple laymen’s language appreciated.


5 posted on 01/19/2009 3:28:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: hoosiermama

Any simple explanation?


6 posted on 01/19/2009 3:31:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

It looks as though the powers that be are being forced to make Obama prove that he is eligible to be president. And it looks mighty damning for Obama.


7 posted on 01/19/2009 3:35:48 PM PST by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: real_patriotic_american

I am hopeful that the SCOTUS will finally do their sworn duty in this matter.

I am reasonably convinced, at this point, that 0bama is NOT qualified for the office of President of the United States, and is likely not qualified to have filled that Senate seat, either. Of course, with the dearth of sponsored legislation during his tenure in the Senate, it was probably not quite so damaging, although more research should be in order.

The whole political scene is a shambles of corruption, conceit and contempt for average Americans, at this point.

Time to refresh the tree of Liberty, IMO.


8 posted on 01/19/2009 3:38:02 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: Sorry screen name in use

When will these embarrassing “Birth Certificate Truthers” STFU?


9 posted on 01/19/2009 3:42:12 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: ncfool

Let us not lose heart and be taken in, believing that the battle is lost. The election is void. It is a nullity.

Where something is void legally, it never was, and actions taken subsequently in reliance on the first void act are void as well. That is actually part of the danger in this situation. There is a very good argument that all acts of O after tomorrow are not just voidable, but void.


10 posted on 01/19/2009 3:46:11 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: Mr. Know It All

About the time that liberals call Bush a good President....or NEVER!


11 posted on 01/19/2009 3:50:08 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Mr. Know It All

About the time that liberals call Bush a good President....or NEVER!


12 posted on 01/19/2009 3:50:14 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Sorry screen name in use
based on the Executive Order by President Bush

What does this refer to?

13 posted on 01/19/2009 3:51:27 PM PST by BlueYonder
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To: Sorry screen name in use
At the very least, I believe that there is something embarrassing and/or at variance with Obama’s stated facts about himself - something he very much does not want the public to see.

Whether it renders him ineligible for office remains to be seen. But it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the information would be extremely damaging if released, and demonstrate that Obama is a liar. Why else not release the information?

14 posted on 01/19/2009 3:54:18 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: beckysueb

But how? I mean how does this suit do that?


15 posted on 01/19/2009 4:05:40 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Sorry screen name in use
I was looking for a place to park this info sent to me recently, not thinking it warranted it's own thread since it's unconfirmed but of interest, so I will post it here, to be debunked or confirmed by the knowledgeable(posts to Dr. Orly Taitz):

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=744

Obama’s social security number was issued in Connecticut?
Poster "Ali" commented:
"I noticed Barack Obama’s social security number begins with “042″ — “042-68-xxxx”. According to the social security website, “042″ designates that his ss# was issued in Connecticut. Why in the world would he have a ss# issued out of Connecticut? "

Poster "SayWhat" commented:
"In working through the properties that Ms. Orly ran past us, I see some 25 SS# attached to his name, 3 or 4 attached to his momma’s name."

Poster David Crocket commented:
"According to the SS # that you posted for Barak Obama, it was issued in Connecticut in the years 1976-1977."

best regards, blu

16 posted on 01/19/2009 4:07:27 PM PST by blueplum
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To: BlueYonder

It’s an Executive Order he signed a day or two ago, it was posted on a couple of threads. Naturally I couldn’t make heads or tails of it. I hope people who can explain what this all means show up and explain.


17 posted on 01/19/2009 4:08:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: blueplum

My SS number/card was issued several years after I was born, and in a different state.


18 posted on 01/19/2009 4:17:05 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: PubliusMM
Time to refresh the tree of Liberty, IMO.


19 posted on 01/19/2009 4:18:07 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: real_patriotic_american
"I believe that Dr. Taitz is going to get somewhere with this Obama non-citizenship issue."

I do too, and/or possibly one of Berg's lawsuits. However, it's looking almost impossible for them to get through until after he becomes a usurper. Question remains...how long after....

On a related issue earlier:

URGENT!! Federal employee to contact Rep. Mike Ritze (R-OK)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2167621/posts?page=33

20 posted on 01/19/2009 4:19:20 PM PST by rxsid
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To: Ramius

“My SS number/card was issued several years after I was born, and in a different state.”

15 years after you were born?


21 posted on 01/19/2009 4:19:33 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: BlueYonder
What does this refer to?

President Bush issued an Executive Order on Friday. It's seemingly fairly innocuous, having to do with various departments (ie. State, Defense, Justice, etc) relying on background checks and other investigations conducted by and/or for departments other than themselves. The only thing I thought rather strange was the timing of the order. It didn't seem to be the sort of thing that a President would do "at the last minute", as they do pardons and commutations.

Background checks are manpower intensive and thus expensive. The language is a bit convoluted, but I took that to be because the author(s) were trying to cover all the various departments, which even use different terminology for much the same things regarding access to sensitive (classified) data. Thus it made sense to me that money could be saved when people, particularly contractors, move between departments or work on projects from multiple departments over the same period of time. Folks at my place of employment do that a lot, mainly NASA and DoD, but others as well.

However others seem to have found a few other little things in there that they think might be used to go after BHO, his Magic Birth Certificate, and his eligibility to the office of President of the United States.

22 posted on 01/19/2009 4:20:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BlueYonder
What does this refer to?

President Bush issued an Executive Order on Friday. It's seemingly fairly innocuous, having to do with various departments (ie. State, Defense, Justice, etc) relying on background checks and other investigations conducted by and/or for departments other than themselves. The only thing I thought rather strange was the timing of the order. It didn't seem to be the sort of thing that a President would do "at the last minute", as they do pardons and commutations.

Background checks are manpower intensive and thus expensive. The language is a bit convoluted, but I took that to be because the author(s) were trying to cover all the various departments, which even use different terminology for much the same things regarding access to sensitive (classified) data. Thus it made sense to me that money could be saved when people, particularly contractors, move between departments or work on projects from multiple departments over the same period of time. Folks at my place of employment do that a lot, mainly NASA and DoD, but others as well.

However others seem to have found a few other little things in there that they think might be used to go after BHO, his Magic Birth Certificate, and his eligibility to the office of President of the United States.

23 posted on 01/19/2009 4:21:01 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Mr. Know It All
Well, Mr. Know It All, how do you know that Obama is eligible for the office of President of the United States?

I do not know if he is or he is not. I have seen no proof either way. But since the question was raised by his paternal grandmother stating that he was born in Kenya, and he submitted a photoshopped or created birth certificate and has doggedly refused to produce the required proof of citizenship, then I have to wonder why.

I also have to further ask where A**Holes like you get off tell me, and others, to stfu. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about other than your opinion. Your opinion is no better than mine or others that are questioning the legality of his election. So why don't you F Off, get a life, and let me do what I want without your cutesy comments.

24 posted on 01/19/2009 4:27:50 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Really! It's time; NOW)
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To: little jeremiah

This case doesn’t look as strong as the Donofrio case or any one of a number of other cases asking the question whether or not that Barak Obama is a “natural born citizen” of the United States as required by Article II Section I of the Constitution of the United States (BHO birth records sealed in Hawaii and great care has been taken for them to stay that way). At issue is an individuals right and ability to challenge a state’s Secretary of State to certify each candidate for president by making sure he passes the criteria, as set forth in the COTUS, as in New Jersey (SCOTUS did not vote to hear oral evidence in the Donofrio case), before awarding the states electoral vote to that candidate. That’s about as simplified as I can make it, to the best of my undertanding.


25 posted on 01/19/2009 4:29:16 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Bigh4u2
15 years after you were born?

Mine was more like 18 years after I was born. Back in those days, children did not need a SSN right after birth. We weren't stapled, folded or mutilated until we needed a SSN to be able to go to work. It was not used for every little thing, but only as means for you to be taxed, and get credit for the taxes, both SS and Income, that your employer withheld from your check and sent to Uncle Sugar Daddy.

My wife got hers two years before I did, since she needed it for some sort of work she did at 16, while I didn't get a job of any sort until after high school, and got mine when I was 18.

26 posted on 01/19/2009 4:30:29 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Bigh4u2
15 years after you were born?

I don't remember exactly. I think I was ten. Back then it wasn't that big of a deal, if you remember. You didn't really need one until you got a job. The IRS didn't even require them on a 1040 for child deductions. I don't recall when that changed.

27 posted on 01/19/2009 4:30:47 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: PubliusMM

Hey, I’m with you all the way.

It appears that Dr. Taitz has found a way to make the Government perform their duties (as they swore to do).

I am also reasonably convinced that Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE to serve as President. Much of my opinion stems from observing Obama’s own actions. When someone hides something, they have something to hide.


28 posted on 01/19/2009 4:31:05 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Sorry screen name in use

If I am reading this right, Condoleeza Rice now has the power to invetigate, request legal BC of the O, by executive order. RIGHT? If this is right and has been done....hooooraaaay for Bush. Bush fixed it to where we can find out, Bush knows the truth.

But with the swearing tomorrow, is it too late, can Rice do anything to help prove he is legit.According to the document copies of the suite were sent to the following. If this was done on the 16th, Rice might have done some snooping already.

Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of State
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street Northwest
Washington, DC 20520
Phone: 202-647-4000

Robert S. Mueller, III
Director
Federal Bureau of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

Michael W. Hager
Acting Director
The Office of Personnel Management
1900 E. Street, NW
Washington, DC 20415
Posted by Orly Taitz, DDS Esq. at 2:23 PM


29 posted on 01/19/2009 4:32:22 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: El Gato

Ya know...Now that you mention it.

I didn’t get mine until I had my first job when I was 14.

(sucks getting old and forgetting things)..

:0)


30 posted on 01/19/2009 4:33:03 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: rxsid

Yes indeed. Berg and Taitz appear to be making strides.

There is some sort of SCOTUS disposition potentially on January 21 in Berg vs. Obama. I’m trying to learn more info on what is happening here.


31 posted on 01/19/2009 4:34:12 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Sorry screen name in use

Found the executive order, now if we have an legal eagle to translate please.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2009/01/20090116-1.html

For Immediate Release
January 16, 2009

Executive Order: Granting Reciprocity on Excepted Service and Federal Contractor Employee Fitness and Reinvestigating Individuals in Positions of Public Trust

White House News

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 1104(a)(1), 3301, and 7301 of title 5, United States Code, and in order to simplify and streamline the system of Federal Government personnel investigative and adjudicative processes to make them more efficient and effective, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Policy. (a) When agencies determine the fitness of individuals to perform work as employees in the excepted service or as contractor employees, prior favorable fitness or suitability determinations should be granted reciprocal recognition, to the extent practicable.

(b) It is necessary to reinvestigate individuals in positions of public trust in order to ensure that they remain suitable for continued employment.

Sec. 2. Definitions. For the purposes of this order:

(a) “Agency” means an executive agency as defined in section 105 of title 5, United States Code, but does not include the Government Accountability Office.

(b) “Contractor employee” means an individual who performs work for or on behalf of any agency under a contract and who, in order to perform the work specified under the contract, will require access to space, information, information technology systems, staff, or other assets of the Federal Government. Such contracts, include, but are not limited to:

(i) personal services contracts;

(ii) contracts between any non-Federal entity and any agency; and

(iii) sub-contracts between any non-Federal entity and another non-Federal entity to perform work related to the primary contract with the agency.

(c) “Excepted service” has the meaning provided in section 2103 of title 5, United States Code, but does not include those positions in any element of the intelligence community as defined in the National Security Act of 1947, as amended, to the extent they are not otherwise subject to Office of Personnel Management appointing authorities.

(d) “Fitness” is the level of character and conduct determined necessary for an individual to perform work for or on behalf of a Federal agency as an employee in the excepted service (other than a position subject to suitability) or as a contractor employee.

(e) “Fitness determination” means a decision by an agency that an individual has or does not have the required level of character and conduct necessary to perform work for or on behalf of a Federal agency as an employee in the excepted service (other than a position subject to suitability) or as a contractor employee. A favorable fitness determination is not a decision to appoint or contract with an individual.

(f) “Position of Public Trust” has the meaning provided in 5 CFR Part 731.

(g) “Suitability” has the meaning and coverage provided in 5 CFR Part 731.

Sec. 3. Agency Authority to Set Fitness Criteria and Determine Equivalency. The authority to establish criteria for making fitness determinations remains within the discretion of the agency head. Agency heads also have the discretion to determine whether their criteria are equivalent to suitability standards established by the Office of Personnel Management. Agency heads shall take into account Office of Personnel Management guidance when exercising this discretion.

Sec. 4. Reciprocal Recognition of Fitness and Suitability Determinations. (a) Except as provided by subsection (b) of this section, agencies making fitness determinations shall grant reciprocal recognition to a prior favorable fitness or suitability determination when:

(i) the gaining agency uses criteria for making fitness determinations equivalent to suitability standards established by the Office of Personnel Management;

(ii) the prior favorable fitness or suitability determination was based on criteria equivalent to suitability standards established by the Office of Personnel Management; and

(iii) the individual has had no break in employment since the favorable determination was made.

(b) Exceptions to Reciprocal Recognition. A gaining agency is not required to grant reciprocal recognition to a prior favorable fitness or suitability determination when:

(i) the new position requires a higher level of investigation than previously conducted for that individual;

(ii) an agency obtains new information that calls into question the individual’s fitness based on character or conduct; or

(iii) the individual’s investigative record shows conduct that is incompatible with the core duties of the new position.

Sec. 5. Reinvestigation of Individuals in Positions of Public Trust. Individuals in positions of public trust shall be subject to reinvestigation under standards (including but not limited to the frequency of such reinvestigation) as determined by the Director of the Office of Personnel Management, to ensure their suitability for continued employment.

Sec. 6. Responsibilities. (a) An agency shall report to the Office of Personnel Management the nature and results of the background investigation and fitness determination (or later changes to that determination) made on an individual, to the extent consistent with law.

(b) The Director of the Office of Personnel Management is delegated authority to implement this order, including the authority to issue regulations and guidance governing suitability, or guidance related to fitness, as the Director determines appropriate.

Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order shall not suspend, impede, or otherwise affect Executive Order 10450 of April 27, 1953, as amended, or Executive Order 13467 of June 30, 2008;

(d) This order is intended only to improve the internal management of the executive branch and is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers, employees or agents, or any other person.

Sec. 8. Effective Date and Applicability. This order is effective upon issuance and is applicable to individuals newly appointed to excepted service positions or hired as contractor employees beginning 90 days from the effective date of this order.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

January 16, 2009.

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32 posted on 01/19/2009 4:40:29 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: Ramius

Yeah. I remembered.

See post #30.


33 posted on 01/19/2009 4:42:45 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Sorry screen name in use; seeks the truth; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; ...

Thanks, seeksthetruth.

Ping.


34 posted on 01/19/2009 4:43:43 PM PST by LucyT
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To: little jeremiah

A. This is a complaint to direct the powers that be (Secretary of State, Director of FBI, Director of Personnel Mgmt) to do their jobs.
B. The legal authority for them to do their jobs is cited.
C. The matters available to anyone for review in the public record are set forth as the reason for the court to demand that O prove he is eligible.
D. The complaint includes, in addition to the Constitutional provisions about eligibility to run for president, the statute they used to put Martha Stewart in jail - lying to a Federal authority.


35 posted on 01/19/2009 4:43:43 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: nbhunt

You are reading it right. She is in charge of immigration issues and passports.

It is not too late. The election is void. The defense will argue it is too late (moot) but it is not.


36 posted on 01/19/2009 4:45:57 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: All

This is being discussed on Plains Radio right now.


37 posted on 01/19/2009 4:47:17 PM PST by LucyT
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To: esquirette

It will never be moot, since he is not a NBC


38 posted on 01/19/2009 4:49:25 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: cvq3842
"Whether it renders him ineligible for office remains to be seen."

Let's not forget, first and foremost, Barry could never be a Natural Born Citizen....even if he were born in D.C. itself! Here's why:

Barry was a British subject at birth (something he openly acknowledges).

Our 'founding fathers' and framers of our Constitution were British subjects at birth.

Our founders and framers obtained citizenship (NOT natural born though) via the Declaration of Independence.

Our founders and framers knew that they did not meet the 'Natural Born Citizen' clause in Article II section I.

So....what did they do?

They wrote in the 'or' part of the requirement.

Article II section I (in part) says: "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President"

'Natural Born Citizen' means...AT birth, not attained latter in life!

They grandfathered themselves into the requirement. If they hadn't done that, the first time our young country could have possibly have had a 'Natural Born' President, would have been 1811! 1776 (Year of Independence) + 35 years. Obviously a problem.

And, obviously Barry wasn't around at that time (of the adoption of the Constitution), so he does not fit the 'or' part like our founders did. Both were British subjects at birth and therefore both do not (did not) fit 'Natural Born' citizen requirement.

39 posted on 01/19/2009 4:50:21 PM PST by rxsid
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To: Mr. Know It All

What?


40 posted on 01/19/2009 4:51:31 PM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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To: Mr. Know It All

“When will these embarrassing “Birth Certificate Truthers” STFU?”

Guess you don’t know it all, afterall. If you are embarrassed by those who want to make sure that our next President is in fact eligible to hold that office and who want to make sure that our Constitution is upheld, then perhaps you don’t understand the situation or are one of those who simply don’t care anymore.

Obama could have proven his eligibility a long time ago but has chosen to fight them every step of the way by hiding his b.c. and other records. I would suggest that your outrage is misplaced. You should be angry at Barack Obama.


41 posted on 01/19/2009 4:52:39 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: real_patriotic_american

“Yes indeed. Berg and Taitz appear to be making strides.
There is some sort of SCOTUS disposition potentially on January 21 in Berg vs. Obama. I’m trying to learn more info on what is happening here.”

Please ping me when you find out more about it. Where did you see it listed on the SCOTUS site?

I believe the orders from this past Friday 1/16 will be posted tomorrow, but not sure. They were not posted today due to the holiday. And perhaps with the big bad event on for tomorrow, the orders may not be posted until Wednesday!


42 posted on 01/19/2009 4:54:35 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

See post 32 for executive order


43 posted on 01/19/2009 4:57:45 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: dirtymac

dirtymac, you must realize that MR KNOW IT ALL, is some snot nose kid fresh out of college that does not know his A$$ from a hole in the ground.


44 posted on 01/19/2009 5:04:27 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: esquirette; CIDKauf

Thank you; and the more explanations, the better. I just cannot grasp legelese or governmentese. Never will.


45 posted on 01/19/2009 5:13:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..

Thanks LucyT, and g’night all.


46 posted on 01/19/2009 5:15:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping Lucy! I am really curious as to what this means.

I have been studying this EO over the past day and it strikes me as an order to be more efficient in checking out Government Officials.

That’s how it strikes me anyway. I was hoping some legal scholars would take the ball and run with it. Dr. Orly along with Alan Keyes have become my new heroes. Who would have thought!


47 posted on 01/19/2009 5:15:51 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Sorry screen name in use

I really like this one statement in the executive order....

(b) Exceptions to Reciprocal Recognition. A gaining agency is not required to grant reciprocal recognition to a prior favorable fitness or suitability determination when:

(i) the new position requires a higher level of investigation than previously conducted for that individual;


48 posted on 01/19/2009 5:17:42 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: DietCoke

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49 posted on 01/19/2009 5:19:37 PM PST by DietCoke
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To: beckysueb
It looks as though the powers that be are being forced to make Obama prove that he is eligible to be president. And it looks mighty damning for Obama.

Yeah, this time it's for real!!!


50 posted on 01/19/2009 5:19:56 PM PST by Drew68
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