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MySpace Rant
02/03/2009 | Self

Posted on 02/03/2009 5:56:36 PM PST by Paved Paradise

Okay... I can't take it anymore. Who are all these so-called "Christians" with MySpace pages that are filled with profanity, filthy song lyrics, sexual inuendo, and some blatant sexual come-ons, and so forth?

What kind of witness is that? Well, truth is I don't believe these people are Christians (you shall know them by their fruit) and I know of no truly repentant and on-their-knees Christian that would ever put that on there. They are smearing the name of Christ. It just infuriates me.

One of my nieces is doing this very thing and I'm ashamed for her. She was just married six months ago and has posted provocative photographs of herself.

While I'm ranting, I'd like to mention another thing that just riles me. My niece's mother, newly divorced, is trolling for guys on her MySpace account and has posted pictures of her daughters in rather skimpy get-ups. These are family pictures that aren't meant for mass distribution. Who knows who is seeing this stuff? She's also put enough information on there that a smart person could find out who her kids are. Worse, one of her "friends," (these people will have things like 'has 212 friends' and have really raped the meaning of that term) has pics of herself posted, rear-end side only, in a bikini (and they aren't good either - the Fashion Police here on FR would have a field day). This gal has posted all kinds of pictures of herself and her 8 year old daughter and one pervert commented on the photos, "You're BOTH cute." Arrrrghhh.

What kind of mother would expose her child to this?????


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: culture; internet; myspace; predators
Sorry - had to rant.
1 posted on 02/03/2009 5:56:37 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

I’m sorry this is happening to your family. MySpace is a cesspool. And, of course - as you rightly discerned - not all who call themselves Christians, actually are.


2 posted on 02/03/2009 6:00:24 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Thanks for the kind remarks. It really upsets me. I don’t think people are very discerning about who their “friends” are and now the big thing is Facebook and Twitter. I’m hearing that even professionals are networking through Twitter. Matter of fact, I heard an interview on Hugh Hewitt’s show last night with Mohler, the head of the S. Baptist Convention and he said he twitters all day to keep current with the young people.

It’s a new world....


3 posted on 02/03/2009 6:02:32 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

4 posted on 02/03/2009 6:03:57 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Paved Paradise; Admin Moderator

Why the hell would you post something like this here? Your life that boring? And to boot, you start out wondering why the idiots are bashing Religion, and then turn it to your own family... Get a life man!!!

Hey Admin... Say this cat some embarrassment and yank this thread...


5 posted on 02/03/2009 6:05:34 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Paved Paradise

Everybody wants to be a star... And MySpace gives them that illusion.

It ranks up there with Mtv if ya ask me.


6 posted on 02/03/2009 6:06:51 PM PST by J40000
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To: Paved Paradise

Something similar happened in our family. Then someone sent the link to grandma and grandpa. Also, a potential employer happened across it. The pictures may still be out there but at least now they can only be viewed by those “invited” to see their pages as it has since been changed to a “private” setting. I know this doesn’t address that main point of your rant, but at least it did help get them to stop advertising for the entire world to see. It’s a start. A little shame can go a long way.


7 posted on 02/03/2009 6:09:15 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Paved Paradise

You obviously have way too much time on your hands.


8 posted on 02/03/2009 6:14:51 PM PST by Melas
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To: Paved Paradise

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/technology/internet/04myspace.html


9 posted on 02/03/2009 6:16:24 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Paved Paradise

Hey, Paved.......

I just ran across this and you may want to check it out:

http://www.yourchristianspace.com/


10 posted on 02/03/2009 6:17:42 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Oh, and I found this, too:

http://www.xianz.com/

:)


11 posted on 02/03/2009 6:19:02 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Melas

What a pathetic joke - I probably have way LESS time on my hands than you - I’d bet your bottom dollar but I can do things very quickly (I have to) like MOST women - women get a lot done in less time and most gals know just what I’m talking about.

I care about my nieces and I don’t think that that is a waste of time - maybe you are a slow reader but I can scan things very, very quickly.

Don’t be a jerk. It’s a serious issue.


12 posted on 02/03/2009 6:21:51 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: anniegetyourgun

cute. It is, isn’t it?


13 posted on 02/03/2009 6:22:14 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: sit-rep

Paved is our FRiend, and friends listen to and support one another.


14 posted on 02/03/2009 6:22:20 PM PST by Enough_Deceit (Proud Mama of a US Marine and a US Soldier Bitterly Hanging On to Her Guns and Religion. Ooorahh!)
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To: sit-rep

I placed this in blogs/chat. What is your problem? I don’t think people posting pics of their kids and trolling for sexual conquests is safe at all and the kids have no choice.

You sound like one of the creeps.


15 posted on 02/03/2009 6:23:03 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: jennyjenny

The colleges do a great job trying to get this message across to the kids about how once it’s in cyberspace... and employers do check but even when they are private, they are not so private because the kids often have hundreds and hundreds of friends who can all see the stuff.


16 posted on 02/03/2009 6:24:12 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
I don't even know what twitter is but Hugh Hewitt is talking about it all the time. I'm so behind on the latest. I didn't start using a cellphone until just about three years ago.

As far as people posting too much personal stuff, yes that is a problem. Women are being very naive and stupid when it comes to themselves--but they are being reckless if they have kids and they are putting it all out their for the world to see.

17 posted on 02/03/2009 6:24:31 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: anniegetyourgun

Thanks Annie. I think MS did a great job on that one. Meanwhile, too bad it can’t turn over the idiot parents that post pics of their kiddies while trolling for sex.


18 posted on 02/03/2009 6:25:03 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Like anything else, myspace and facebook are really just tools. It’s all about how you use it. My myspace is kept fairly private but even if you could see it, it’s mostly a blog about astrophotography and is decorated as such. I probably have the most boring page on the site for a guy my age. Of course the inappropriate myspace and facebook pages are the ones that get talked about the most, but it can just as often be used for mundane or even professional purposes. The way I see it, if a potential employer is going for look a person’s myspace page to get the dirt, why not use it to my advantage and give a good impression? Perhaps using these tools in a “mundane” way can set you apart in a good way.


19 posted on 02/03/2009 6:25:31 PM PST by messierhunter
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To: beaversmom

oops should be there not their


20 posted on 02/03/2009 6:25:35 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: J40000

I couldn’t agree with you more.


21 posted on 02/03/2009 6:25:38 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I learned another new thing today. I might mention this to some people I know.


22 posted on 02/03/2009 6:26:24 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: sit-rep

And yet, you have the time to post this?? Such a baffling post. Very weird.


23 posted on 02/03/2009 6:26:28 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: messierhunter

You are, of course, right. However, think about the innocent children whose parents are posting stuff? It’s no different than the single mom who brings home strange men into the home without much checking but this just brings it into an enormous spectrum that is a little frightening.


24 posted on 02/03/2009 6:28:18 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

You can’t be serious. Myspace is a serious issue? Please, if you’re a 10th as smart as your boasts would have everyone believe you’d know better.


25 posted on 02/03/2009 6:37:18 PM PST by Melas
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To: Paved Paradise

I am a Youth Leader for my church’s youth group, and sadly I see this every single day with Youth in my church. The Youth Pastor and I have discussed it several times, he has preached sermons about the danger of losing your Witness through what you have on your Myspace and Facebook page, but it doesn’t seem to make much difference at all. It’s even scarier, that some of the teens who have the raciest and most profane items on their pages have parents in positions of authority at our church. These teens are the ones praying at the altar every week, raising their hands in Worship, and yet- they’re the worst offenders. I don’t get it either.


26 posted on 02/03/2009 6:37:54 PM PST by richmwill
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To: Melas
Myspace most definitely CAN be a very serious issue.
27 posted on 02/03/2009 7:07:40 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Paved Paradise
As one of my Catholic buddies used to say, "Hate the sin, but love the sinner".

It can be hard to do. We are right to warn our brother,{or sister} but leave the judging to the judge. Read up on the prodigal son. Then read it again. The father ran to meet his son when he saw him from far away. We should never let ourselves be like the brother that refused to celebrate the return of his sibling.

28 posted on 02/03/2009 7:14:42 PM PST by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: Paved Paradise
They were influenced by Ted Haggard?

Just a guess :)

29 posted on 02/03/2009 7:18:45 PM PST by Fighting Irish ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Paved Paradise

Irresponsible parents will tend to act irresponsibily. It’s horrifying, of course, but what should we do about? Punish everyone or find a way to punish those who are (ir)responsible? As you pointed out, myspace is not by any means the only way an out of control parent can put their child in danger. There are agencies who have the responsibility to remove children from homes where the parents put them in harm’s way.


30 posted on 02/03/2009 7:35:50 PM PST by messierhunter
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To: Paved Paradise
It’s no different than the single mom who brings home strange men into the home without much checking but this just brings it into an enormous spectrum that is a little frightening.

There is NO difference? There is NO difference between a mom who posts a picture which a pedophile MAY see, and a mom who gives strangers full access to her children?

You have no sense of proportion at all.

31 posted on 02/03/2009 9:04:58 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: richmwill

It’s always been that way my friend.


32 posted on 02/03/2009 10:54:44 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: Dianna

Thanks, Dianna. I was making a point about the fact that these are both BAD things, but I needed you to point out to me that they are distinctly different. Feel free to give me your personal email and phone number so I can call you to make sure I say everything just right next time, okay, and make you all happy.


33 posted on 02/05/2009 3:57:20 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: richmwill

First off, I commend you for your work with youth. We need more people to help and people are so busy these days I think we are failing in many ways. I heard a great message today on one of the Moody Bible Institute’s affiliates and it was about true repentance. I wonder if some of our youth are truly repenting because I was taught that while we always sin, when we actively engage in it and wallow in it, then something is seriously wrong.


34 posted on 02/05/2009 4:00:00 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Melas

Melas - intelligent people understand that they are supposed to protect their children and putting one’s children’s photos on a MS page along with sexual come-ons while seeking relationships is dangerous at the most and just plain foolish in the least. I am dead serious.

Many years ago a beautiful boy in Florida went to an event for children where they had a kite contest or maybe it was just kite-flying in general. One of the local papers snapped the kid’s pic. Well, some pedophile had been recently released from jail due to overcrowding, saw the boy’s picture - he had the kid’s photo and his name. I remember scant details except the important part about how he abducted the boy and murdered him.

Smart parents know not to put their kids’ names on the back of their book bags, so why you think it’s just peachy keen to have children’s photos smeared all over a website that millions of people can see with even more details than name is beyond my ken. Meanwhile, I do think MySpace has some serious problems... and that’s why they, to their credit, got rid of 90,000 pedophiles. And that’s just the ones they KNEW about. I’m sure there are more. Child pornography is not a billions of dollars a year business because there is nobody out there buying the stuff. So, live in your little dream world.

I don’t believe it takes a village to raise a child, but the whole village needs to at least give a darn about all of our children...


35 posted on 02/05/2009 4:08:23 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: messierhunter

Yes, you are right but it’s good if people can educate the fools - maybe they might listen once in a while.


36 posted on 02/05/2009 4:12:29 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
Thanks, Dianna. I was making a point about the fact that these are both BAD things, but I needed you to point out to me that they are distinctly different. Feel free to give me your personal email and phone number so I can call you to make sure I say everything just right next time, okay, and make you all happy.

Oh, do we no longer posts things for debate anymore? We all just smile at each other and agree?

If you can't handle the argument, don't start a thread.

37 posted on 02/05/2009 8:11:42 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: Dianna

You knew what point I was making and I believe you were just trying to be a wise guy. If I am opposed to parents posting sexual come-ons in the same space as photos of their children, did you for one second think that I would not think bringing home a stranger would be worse? The only difference is that at least the stranger you can ID. In the case of the pervert who finds your kid online and comes for him/her, you have no idea who that person is....

And yes, I am open to honest, sincere debate.


38 posted on 02/06/2009 12:21:46 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

What’s wrong with saying they’re both cute? I don’t get it. I know some cute women who have cute kids. Obviously they’re different kinds of cute, but they’re all cute. Nothing wrong with being cute. English tends to tie a lot of different meanings to single words, and most of the meanings tied to cute are 100% non-sexual.

As for Christians who swear, they’re just words, if they’re not uptight about them that’s their business. I was raised by Marines, swear words have never bothered me, and I’ve certainly never cosidered them un-Christian.


39 posted on 02/06/2009 12:30:58 PM PST by razorboy
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To: Paved Paradise
You knew what point I was making and I believe you were just trying to be a wise guy.

No, I wasn't. I'm used to dealing with drama queens who are sure that THIS SITUATION is the worst one EVER!!! Then they say all kinds of silly things getting themselves all worked up. Sometimes saying, "Think about what you just said," makes them pause a moment and realize they are perhaps over reacting.

Here is the thing: It certainly isn't right for a mother to post suggestive pictures of her daughter online. No, I don't know where her head is. It is HIGHLY UNlikely that anyone would see that girl's picture online and try to track her down and get her. It's possible, but really unlikely. Much more commonly, a perv might use that picture to excite himself. Gross, totally. But it's some random stranger perv and the girl or her mom or us will never know it's even happened.

The MUCH more likely thing to happen with this bozo mom is that she will bring home random boyfriend who tries or succeeds in touching the daughter. That occurrance isn't somehow "better" than anonymous perv jacking off to her picture because mom can finger the guy at the police station. The girl has actually BEEN endangered and harmed by one situation where she wouldn't even be aware of anonymous perv.

It's isn't reasonable to equate an event that is incredibly rare (online perv sees girl and tracks her down) to an event that happens probably numerous times a day in the US (mom brings home scummy boyfriend who advances on her child). That is why I tried to stop you and get you to think.

40 posted on 02/06/2009 12:49:29 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: Dianna

A few points:

I have no idea what you are talking about re: “drama queens.” Concern and passion are not the equivalent of drama. As for you being “used to dealing with drama queens,” I am not sure how that relates to the concern I originally aired but maybe you need to get some new friends (?) if you have problems with drama queens. It’s a somewhat trendy and overused term these days.

My second point is that you either did not carefully read my post or you just forgot (easy to do on FR when one is scanning through), but the MOTHER is the one posting sexually suggestive pics of herself as a come on to men - and the site is a public site (i.e. not set to private)with pics of the daughter also posted - the kid in front of the house - with her stuffed animal and so on. The child is not in suggestive poses.

My contention is that a woman who will create a public MySpace viewable by the public (millions and millions of people) exhibiting not only herself but with special attention being given to particular body parts which would attract fetishists and so on, yet also on the same site posts pics of her daughter and her daughter’s name and other details is taking serious chances and it is the daughter who will pay the price, not even the loser mother.

Furthermore, it is (to use your term),”HIGHLY UNLIKELY” statistically that I would be attacked or raped if I walked alone at night, while dressed as a hooker, in an area filled with drinking establishments. In fact, it is “HIGHLY UNLIKELY” that most females will ever be raped in their life times, but that does not mean people should participate in high risk behavior. As my stats expert friend once said to me, “If it’s you, it’s 100 percent.” So, “likely” and “unlikely” are vagaries best left for talking about the weather or other benign things; not sexual assault, molestation, abduction, and a host of other evils.

In the meantime, I am wondering about how you know so much about what a pervert may or may not do. I am not so educated about the inner or outer lives of degenerates. Are you a probation officer or psychologist or an expert in sociology? I am not so cocky about playing guessing games with the quirky or bizarre. Enough internet disasters have been publicized for me to realize that it this is a serious issue and will probably continue to cause problems. Just one child being harmed is enough for me to want it to be addressed.

And finally, you do not need to get me to “stop and think.” I think very well, thank you.


41 posted on 02/07/2009 10:48:18 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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