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Barack Obama may subject US troops to International Criminal Court
Telegraph.co.uk. ^ | 3/6/09 | Gerald Warner

Posted on 03/06/2009 12:28:40 PM PST by classical artist

They are feeling good just now at The Hague, as the judges and pen-pushers of the International Criminal Court (ICC) adjourn to smart restaurants to celebrate the latest gesture-politics flexing of their muscles by issuing an arrest warrant for Omar al Bashir, the President of Sudan. They are feeling less good in Darfur, from which 10 international aid agencies were expelled in retaliation within four hours of the ICC initiative, cutting food supplies and closing clinics. One man's ego trip is another man's starvation.

But the people who should be feeling really nervous about this development are the citizens of the United States and more especially their armed forces. The signs are that the grandstanding Barack Obama is preparing to subject the United States to the jurisdiction of the ICC. In May, 2002 President Bush withdrew the United States from the Rome Statute which established the ICC. With America heading into global conflict, he had no wish to see US troops arraigned for alleged war crimes before a kangaroo court.

That was a wise decision and probably required in terms of the US Constitution. Already, however, the Obama administration is sending out very different messages. America helped defeat a proposal that the warrant for Bashir should be suspended for 12 months - which would

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: bho44; first100days; military; obama; obamatruthfile; scotus
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The ICC is has frightening implications for our military as well as for all of us as citizens of the USA. The ICC is an attempt to override the laws of individual nations (including their constitutions) with respect to the actions of all citizens that have 'bearing' on international (multi-national) interests. This means, in effect, replacing (or worse unifying) all concepts of law (natural law, mosaic law, sharia law, marxist law) by a hodge-podge of political law motivated to give to the UN international control of our foreign policies and statutes. Realize that the UN is rapidly becoming an Islamic-dominated body. The result will be the ultimate goal of Islam: International Sharia Law.

Fight this with all of strength and resources!!!

1 posted on 03/06/2009 12:28:40 PM PST by classical artist
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To: classical artist
You can safely draw a line through the may part in the headline. He hates this country's military IMO. His words and actions have been rather clear.
2 posted on 03/06/2009 12:31:09 PM PST by allmost
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To: classical artist

Obama is playing with fire.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 12:31:37 PM PST by skeeter
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To: classical artist

(The signs are that the grandstanding Barack Obama is preparing to subject the United States to the jurisdiction of the ICC. In May, 2002 President Bush withdrew the United States from the Rome Statute which established the ICC. With America heading into global conflict, he had no wish to see US troops arraigned for alleged war crimes before a kangaroo court. )

With Obama leading a kangaroo Administration this was a no brainer. Just one of many steps Obama is taking to destroy the effectiveness of the United States Military.
We willbe lucky to have any militaryb left by the time we get this idiot out of office...


4 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:04 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: classical artist

Knew this was coming.

He will adopt every crappy UN proposal.


5 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:14 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: allmost

I don’t know about you but nothing says justice like a perverted, chocolate-eating Dutch judge with no accountability and unlimited jurisdiction.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:29 PM PST by exist
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To: classical artist
What?!! He sends more troops to Afghanistan, threatens to take on Pakistan and expand other commitments abroad, but would not shield the soldiers?! Commander-in-Chief, my *ss.
7 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:37 PM PST by alecqss
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To: classical artist

There would be a military coup d’etat in this country before this would happen.


8 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:56 PM PST by Nachum (Documented Obama confusion)
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To: classical artist

Until Teleprompter Barry is out of office, we should discourage people from enlisting or re-enlisting.


9 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:59 PM PST by Lou Budvis (0bama Lied and the Market Died)
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To: Nachum

Um...that’s kinda what I was thinking....and then there is that 2nd amendment thingy...


10 posted on 03/06/2009 12:34:30 PM PST by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Zero must be on crack if he wants to subject US troops to the ICC. People will leave the millitary in droves. Way to go Zero. Leave America poor, hungry, sick and defenseless.


11 posted on 03/06/2009 12:36:10 PM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: Nachum

We’re just frogs in a pot waiting for the water to boil.


12 posted on 03/06/2009 12:36:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: exist
Yielding US sovereignity makes his “Present” vote free from backlash when it comes to his supporters.
13 posted on 03/06/2009 12:36:45 PM PST by allmost
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To: classical artist

TREASON! IMPEACHMENT!


14 posted on 03/06/2009 12:37:50 PM PST by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: LottieDah

that is what he wants. Makes it easier for his ambitions.


15 posted on 03/06/2009 12:40:47 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: classical artist
The magnitude of institutional destruction that this man has wrought in less than two months is staggering. We are quickly reaching the tipping point.
16 posted on 03/06/2009 12:41:23 PM PST by americanophile
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To: classical artist
The magnitude of institutional destruction that this man has wrought in less than two months is staggering. We are quickly reaching the tipping point.
17 posted on 03/06/2009 12:41:23 PM PST by americanophile
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To: classical artist

18 posted on 03/06/2009 12:41:26 PM PST by Diogenesis ("All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities." - Dune)
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To: alecqss

With Dear Leader lobbing missiles into Pakistan, wouldn’t he be hauled up infront of the court?
What am i saying? He is a fellow socialist.
I read that in that hallowed organization, they found cocaine residue on the back of every single toilet in the building.


19 posted on 03/06/2009 12:41:50 PM PST by Holicheese (Gimme Gimme Gimme!)
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To: LottieDah

Leave America poor, hungry, sick and defenseless.

Wasn’t that the plan?


20 posted on 03/06/2009 12:43:11 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: classical artist

No one should deploy to combat if he is subject to ICC.


21 posted on 03/06/2009 12:44:12 PM PST by marron
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To: classical artist

There isnt any doubt in my mind that he will do this.

The man is either insane or attempting to destroy America, and I dont think he is insane.


22 posted on 03/06/2009 12:45:01 PM PST by Venturer
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To: classical artist

I hate to say this, but, if I were back in uniform, I would feel under no obligation to obey the orders of this Anti-American P.O.S. whom is hell-bent on surrendering our sovreignty. My oath was to uphold the Constitution. It still stands.


23 posted on 03/06/2009 12:46:17 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: classical artist

“The Divine One” seems hell bent upon precipitating shooting in our streets. It is becoming increasingly obvious that this clown is a real danger to the Republic. He is an economic disaster, a political disaster and a social disaster.


24 posted on 03/06/2009 12:47:12 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Venturer

He could be both.


25 posted on 03/06/2009 12:49:30 PM PST by classical artist
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To: classical artist

He’s itching for a military coup.


26 posted on 03/06/2009 12:52:15 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: skeeter

If anything would actually cause a another US civil war this would be it.


27 posted on 03/06/2009 12:52:27 PM PST by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Dionysius
I hate to say this, but, if I were back in uniform, I would feel under no obligation to obey the orders of this Anti-American P.O.S. whom is hell-bent on surrendering our sovreignty. My oath was to uphold the Constitution. It still stands.

I couldn't agree with you more. It is time for the Supreme Court to decide if this POS is really the Commander in Chief or as I suspect, a Usurper.

28 posted on 03/06/2009 12:53:28 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper - "Don't Tread On Me!!!")
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To: Dallas59

IMO rebellion against such an act would be entirely justified.


29 posted on 03/06/2009 12:53:51 PM PST by skeeter
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To: classical artist

If American troops commit a crime shouldn’t they come and arrest the Commander in Chief?


30 posted on 03/06/2009 12:56:33 PM PST by DManA (And he was brazenly inviting his listeners to get on Democratic committee Web sites, to say nice thi)
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To: skeeter
Fortunately he won't play long. King Charles I of England discovered you can screw with the troops only so long, and that situation, BTW, is in this country's history!

It's very easy to understand this reference by identifying Lord Digby with Rahm Emanuel ~ they're both pretty much the same in personality type, but also in mistaken beliefs about "the other side", or which way to flee!

31 posted on 03/06/2009 12:56:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Venturer

He’s neither. On the other hand he’s clearly quite sociopathic ~ probably made that way by his mother and stepfather.


32 posted on 03/06/2009 12:58:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: The Sons of Liberty
SCOTUS was paid long ago with few pieces of silver.
They EAGERLY sold out the US Constitution, ex parte.


33 posted on 03/06/2009 12:59:16 PM PST by Diogenesis ("All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities." - Dune)
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To: muawiyah

Digby Jones?


34 posted on 03/06/2009 1:00:31 PM PST by skeeter
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To: muawiyah

George Digby. Never mind!


35 posted on 03/06/2009 1:03:38 PM PST by skeeter
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To: classical artist
signs are that the grandstanding Barack Obama is preparing to subject the United States to the jurisdiction of the ICC.

This would have severe unintended consequences.

36 posted on 03/06/2009 1:05:26 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: classical artist
Obama and his administration is the new England - looks like a patriot fight is coming ....

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37 posted on 03/06/2009 1:14:52 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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The ICC is has frightening implications for our military as well as for all of us as citizens of the USA.

Here's one for you. ICC = No protection from ex post facto laws or habeus corpus. No Bill of Rights protections like due process, no self-incrimination, double jeopardy or rights against search and seizure.

ICC's Marshal shows up to accused individual's home. "We're here to search for evidence. No warrant needed."

38 posted on 03/06/2009 1:15:02 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: allmost
He hates this country's military IMO.

Even more so than the Klintoons, which decimated the military and gave them the middle finger.
39 posted on 03/06/2009 1:15:17 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: prismsinc

Dam straight! This sh!t woulfd be illegal as hello.


40 posted on 03/06/2009 1:18:04 PM PST by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: DManA

If this happens this will put troops under even more difficult ROE and will lead to loss of life.


41 posted on 03/06/2009 1:19:06 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: pissant

If that happens, I’m gonna help the green machine. I’m a little older but I’m just as mean, have experience, and can’t stand this sob ruining the USA.


42 posted on 03/06/2009 1:20:53 PM PST by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: classical artist

It would have to be ratified by the Senate,


43 posted on 03/06/2009 1:21:47 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Bitsy

New tagline


44 posted on 03/06/2009 1:47:48 PM PST by combat_boots (Leave America poor, hungry, sick and defenseless. Wasn't that the plan? How's that Hopenchange now?)
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To: Retired Greyhound

I a waiting for him to use his treaty-making power and secure Senate to override the entire US Constitution or selected parts of it.


45 posted on 03/06/2009 1:50:20 PM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: LottieDah
People will leave the millitary in droves.

An easy way to reduce the military and/or to teintroduce a Draft, which will be mostly non actual military and maybe for his Civilian Defense Force brownshirts.

46 posted on 03/06/2009 1:52:22 PM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: lady lawyer

Or enacted in Executive Order ... ala William Jefferson Clinton and Kyoto Treaty (comes to mind).


47 posted on 03/06/2009 1:53:51 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: lady lawyer
It would have to be ratified by the Senate,

You think that/s an obstacle ?? ??

48 posted on 03/06/2009 1:55:59 PM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: skeeter

Obama will be the cause of the second civil war in America!


49 posted on 03/06/2009 1:55:59 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: K-oneTexas

He signed Kyoto, but the effect was symbolic. It didn’t become law.


50 posted on 03/06/2009 2:04:08 PM PST by lady lawyer
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