Posted on 04/03/2009 8:47:49 AM PDT by Michael Eden
Tyranny for Breakfast.
Oppression for Lunch.
and
Injustice for Dinner.
This is the NEW American Dream.
I thought I’d also say this, based on my study of history.
When Hitler attacked, Stalin was forced to drop the whole “Communist” thing and urge the people to fight for the “Motherland.”
And the Russian people didn’t hate the Germans because they were Nazis, but because they were Germans.
I recall reading a quote about Russian tank crews who had been trapped in fires and had their faces burned off. The author was very clear: the Russians were filled with hate - and couldn’t wait to get back to the front so they could kill “more Germans.”
Hitler’s attack and Russia’s counterattack was NOT about “fascism vs. communism.” It was about “Germany vs. Russia.”
>>“Who will American fascism be intolerant of?”
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>Those that have been said to “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
I think you may be right.
NAZI is not an acronym.
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NAZI: Acronym for the “National Socialist German Workers Party” or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (N.S.A.D.P). Hitler joined this party on September 12 1919 and became its leader in 1921. The party was banned in 1923, but was re-established in February 1925 and took control of Germany in 1933. After Germany’s defeat in World War 2, the Nazi Party was declared illegal by the Allied powers.
source: http://www.holocaust.com.au/glossary.htm
“All I know is that real fascists—and real communists for that matter—wouldn’t tolerate this same-sex marriage nonsense”
Actually, homosexuality is part-and-parcel of BOTH Nazism and Communism.
If you allow the people thier perversions, they acede to having other freedoms taken away from them.
In both Nazism and Soviet Communism, homosexuals only became pariahs AFTER the stromg-men took control, and was used as an excuse to remove them. Or worse.
It is merely a nickname based on the German pronunciation of the first four letters of Nationalsozialistische.
I’ve been posting this fact on here for almost two years and have been pelted with how wrong I was.
Well, it does my heart good to know that others are coming to the party, a bit late but the music is just starting.
If the central government is successful in turning the economy around (which is highly doubtful, since it's never been achieved before by any command economy), then the US electorate will gladly embrace Hussein's policy initiatives and become a full-blown socialist state.
However, it is much more likely (I'd say 90%+) that the entire economic system will fail. It's easy to make this prediction, because the FIRE model (from which tax receipts and lending capability is based) is based on 3 things that require suspending the laws of math (ie exponents): ever appreciating assets, credit expansion & securitization.
In the case of system failure, not only will the crackhead's new initiatives not implemented, but the entire facade of the welfare state will collapse in its entirety.
So, as you can see, all we have to do is wait, watch & observe. The time for effecting political change is long past. (Simply because looters now outnumber producers - that is, the "tipping point" has been reached.) It is now time for the market (baseline human instincts) to determine our fate.
Shirer would disagree with that point.
The Nazi/Hitler rise to power was due to the use of street violence (the SA) and alliances with the Army, the political elite, big business, and the junkers/agricultural estates (in that order).
Hitler paid only lip service to the labor unions and gave them the stiff arm by placing all authority with management to control wages and employment. In fact shortly after coming to power, Hitler abolished trade unions.
Long story short, attempts to clarify the political spectrum so as to link Hitler to socialism and communism is a silly exercise and there is a tremendous amount of disagreement with it among political scientists and historians. The NAZI party might have started out with many socialist components but Hitler is quite difficult to place on the spectrum. He was a malignant narcissistic monster who could and did move quite nimbly around the political spectrum when he thought it would gain him more power.
If Hitler had an ideology other than himself, it was German nationalism and antisemitism.
I don’t think SA Leader’s Ernst Roehm’s homosexuality was the main reason behind Hitler’s 1934 purge of the SA. At the time the newly appointed Chancellor Hitler was rebuilding Germany’s armed forces for future wars of aggression. He needed the support of the military. The Prussian aristocracy whose officer corp controlled the military were increasingly wary of Ernst Roehm’s private army ,the SA, whose numbers even exceeded that of the Wehrmacht. They wanted Roehm stopped and Hitler wanted the support of the traditional military. A deal was cut which precipitated the Purge: Hitler agreed to eliminate Roehm and disband the SA. In return, every German soldier was required swear a personal oath of allegiance to Hitler. Although Hitler tolerated homosexuality there has never been any solid evidence that he ever engaged in such activity. It is also worth noting that at the time Hitler was also currying favor with big German industrialists he would need for his military build up, and these business leaders were also quite wary of Roehm and the SA who did in fact represent the socialist and labor union wing of the Nazi movement.
Liberals have an agenda. They wait eagerly for excuses to push their agenda over on the public.
A shooting is an excuse to confiscate guns.
A heat spell is the excuse to ban normal light bulbs.
The economic downturn is the excuse for turning the country into a marxist nation.
They used Christianity as well
In the beginning they did. However, Christianity was perverted by the Nazis (as it is today my many). The priests were basically told to toe the Nazi line or they’d be dealt with. Slowly the church was forced to turn from God to State (and even Hitler himself) as the object of worship.
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By the end of the 19th century, Germany was the LEAST religious and LEAST Christian country in all of Western civilization. Their top scholars (Julian Wellhausen and Friedrich Delitzsch as two examples among many) were hard-core theological liberals and Antisemites.
Hitler DID try to co-opt the liberal churches, and created the “German Christian movement” which made being Aryan more important than believing in Jesus.
Theologians such as Dietrich Bonehoeffer (who was executed by the Nazis) responded with the “Confessing Church movement.” Thousands of Christian pastors died in the death camps.
An article titled “The Nazis and Christianity” is a very good read.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_nazis_and_christianity.html
NAZI: Acronym for the “National Socialist German Workers Party” or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (N.S.A.D.P). Hitler joined this party on September 12 1919 and became its leader in 1921. The party was banned in 1923, but was re-established in February 1925 and took control of Germany in 1933. After Germany’s defeat in World War 2, the Nazi Party was declared illegal by the Allied powers.
source: http://www.holocaust.com.au/glossary.htm
Röhm wanted and expected a Second Revolution, in which the Party would move directly into a class-based socialism, and in the process purge anything inconsistent with that goal (including, if necessary, the racialist focus of Party policy).
Hitler’s main motivation in the Röhm purge was to placate the military (whose support he needed), which felt threatened by a parallel Brownshirt military. Hitler gave them what they wanted (subjugation and deprecation of the SA), and in return got the personal oath from the military (officers and enlisted men).
The homosexuality was a convenient excuse, and anyway, Hitler preferred the SS (whose purity and loyalty he tightly controlled).
As regards Roehm and his sort, I have read all authoritative material on Hitler and, like you, have never seen any account of Hitler's participation in homosexual behavior. In fact, there are many cases of innuendo as to his preference for young women.
I do not consider the New South Wales Board of Jewish Education to be the final authority on the meaning of acronym.
The term ‘acronym’ was coined by Bell Labs as “a word created from the first letters of each word in a series of words.”
For that matter, USSR isn’t an acronym either (how would it be pronounced as a word?).
I’ve been posting this fact on here for almost two years and have been pelted with how wrong I was.
Well, it does my heart good to know that others are coming to the party, a bit late but the music is just starting.
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Well, you can at least have this consolation: if you were among the first to recognize that genuine fascism was coming to America, you will likely be rewarded with being among the first to be executed by the fascist state.
I just checked the copyright date on Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism,” and noticed that it came out in 2007. He has certainly taken ALL KINDS of heat for his thesis, regardless of how obviously true it is or how well he defended it.
In any event, I’m here now - and I hope a lot more join me in joining you!!!
Precisely put. Much more accurate.
I was talking about fascism during the Clinton administration and the 2000 election. I was extremely pleased to see Jonah Goldberg’s book come out.
I have noticed a pattern in the last few years to try to redefine fascism on the internet. Many of the definitions deny the symbiotic relationship between government and the favored members of private industry.
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