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Joe The Plumber Right On Socialism, Soaring Taxes On Small Businesses Under Obama
Start Thinking Right ^ | April 28, 2009 | Michael Eden

Posted on 04/28/2009 3:54:28 PM PDT by Michael Eden

It's not like Barrack Obama didn't promise the American people that he would lead them into socialism. You might remember the famous encounter with Joe "the plumber":

Wurzelbacher said he planned to become the owner of a small plumbing business that will take in more than the $250,000 amount at which Obama plans to begin raising tax rates.

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the blue-collar worker asked.

After Obama responded that it would, Wurzelbacher continued: "I've worked hard . . . I work 10 to 12 hours a day and I'm buying this company and I'm going to continue working that way. I'm getting taxed more and more while fulfilling the American Dream."

"It's not that I want to punish your success," Obama told him. "I want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success, too.

Then, Obama explained his trickle-up theory of economics.

"My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

“Spread the wealth around,” Obama said. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Joe the Plumber famously answered, "That sounds like socialism."

And how the liberals howled. Pieces like Mc Clatchey Newspapers' "Obama plan isn't 'socialism'; it's traditional progressive taxation" by David Lightman and William Douglas abounded:

"It wouldn't qualify as socialism.

"The answer is clearly no, Senator Obama is not a socialist," said Paul Beck, a professor of political science at Ohio State University. "We've had a progressive tax system for some time, and both Republicans and Democrats have bought into it."

Socialism involves state ownership of the means of economic production and state-directed sharing of the wealth. America's democratic capitalist system is neither socialist nor pure free market; rather, it mixes the two, and it has at least since the progressive income tax was introduced 95 years ago. Under it, the wealthy pay higher income tax rates than those who are less fortunate do. It's a form of sharing the wealth."

Now, of course, I read that last paragraph and I'm just rolling on the floor laughing at how ignorant and dishonest these liberals were - and are.

Let me just say two words: "Auto industry." Let me say two more: "banking industry." Let me add a few others: "Obama fires GM CEO." And, "Government forcing GM board out," And, "Obama won't allow banks to repay bailout loans." And, "Government, UAW Own 89% of GM In Restructuring." And, "Government Power and Control: The One Trillion Dollar Takeover Of Health Care." And, "Obama's cap-and-trade plan a wolf in sheep's clothing." And, most frightening and revealing of all: "Financial Rescue Nears GDP as Pledges Top $12.8 Trillion."

"Let's move it along, folks. Move it along. No socialists to see here."

Sorry, mainstream media: Obama is as socialist as the sun is hot. The fact that you were too blatantly dishonest and corrupt and incompetent to do your job during the campaign is just one more case in point that we are now under the thrall of totalitarian propaganda.

As the February 16, 2009 issue of Newseek gleefully trumpeted:

we-are-all-socialists-now

That pretty much makes it official: Obama and the Democratic Party lied to us: they were socialists all along, and too dishonest and too corrupt to honestly and legitimately represent themselves.

I also have to point out the fact that the VERY WORST ELEMENTS OF SOCIALISM - right out of the playbook of the "National Socialist German Workers' Party" or the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" - were used to attack Joe Wurzelbacher simply for asking a candidate for president a couple of questions right outside his house. The media and the Democrat machine went after him with everything they had, including snooping through his private records in a very KGB-like manner in hopes of dredging up dirt on him.

You know, kind of like what Obama and his Democrat lynch mob are doing to Bush administration officials even as we speak in 1) releasing memos selectively targeted to make Bush look like a torturer while refusing to release any memos that would show how Bush's actions kept America safe; and 2) threatening to prosecute Bush officials for their part in 1) in what would amount to a show trial. How quintessentially totalitarian of them.

All this said, our socialist - and frankly fascist - president is now about to come after small business owners EXACTLY as Joe Wurzelbacher feared he would to pay for his socialist Statist agenda:

Small Businesses Brace for Tax Battle Under Obama Plan, Some Entrepreneurs' Bills Would Soar By Lori Montgomery and V. Dion Haynes Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, April 27, 2009

Gail Johnson doesn't think of herself as wealthy. The former pediatric nurse has spent 20 years building a chain of preschools and after-school programs that accommodate sick children so working parents can keep their jobs.

But, like most small-business owners, Johnson reports her profit on her personal tax return. In a typical year, she and her husband make more than $500,000, according to her accountant, a figure that throws them squarely into the ranks of the richest Americans -- and makes them a prime target for the Obama administration's tax policy.

Since last year's campaign, President Obama has vowed repeatedly not to increase taxes for families making less than $250,000 a year. That pledge, while politically popular, has left him with just two primary sources of funding for his ambitious social agenda: about 3 million high-earning families and the nation's businesses.

Johnson, with her company, falls into both categories. If Obama's tax plans are enacted, her accountant estimates that her federal tax bill -- typically, around $120,000 a year -- would rise by at least $23,000, a 19 percent increase.

"You hear 'tax the rich,' and you think, 'I don't make that much money,' " said Johnson, whose Rainbow Station programs are headquartered near Richmond. "But then you realize: 'Oh, if I put my business income with my wages, then, suddenly, I'm there.' "

Across the nation, many business owners are watching anxiously as the president undertakes expensive initiatives to overhaul health care and expand educational opportunities, while also reining in runaway budget deficits. Already, Obama has proposed an extra $1.3 trillion in taxes for business and high earners over the next decade. They include new limits on the ability of corporations to automatically defer U.S. taxes on income earned overseas, repeal of a form of inventory accounting that tends to reduce business taxes, and a mandate that investment partnerships pay the regular income tax rate instead of the lower capital gains rate.

'A Permanent Target' Business groups say they're bracing for even more battles with the administration.

"They're desperate for revenue. And therein lies the concern of the broader business community," said R. Bruce Josten, chief lobbyist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

"We're going to be a permanent target, and we understand that," added Catherine Schultz, vice president for tax policy at the National Foreign Trade Council. "The way they see it, corporations don't vote."

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Many small business owners file individual income tax returns. Their "incomes" do not merely go into their pockets; rather, they use their profits to pay their employees and reinvest in their businesses:
Johnson declined to say whether she voted for Obama. But she said she ignored his tax plans until her husband, who handles real estate and construction for the schools, mentioned it one day. "I've since talked to my accountant," she said. "And, oh, my gosh!"

The accountant, Carroll Hurst, said Johnson is unlikely to owe any federal taxes this year due to accounting changes that confer a one-time tax benefit. But in a typical year, he said, Johnson and her husband earn about $515,000 from various entities related to the schools. They claim around $90,000 in deductions -- much of it contributions to charity -- reducing their taxable income to around $425,000. Johnson said the sum they take home in wages is "substantially less."

In a typical year, Johnson's federal tax bill would be about $120,000. But starting in 2011, the higher marginal rates would add about $13,000 a year, Hurst said. Capping the value of itemized deductions at 28 percent would add another $10,000, for a total increase of $23,000.

And Johnson's tax bill stands to grow dramatically if Obama were to revive a plan to apply Social Security tax to income over $250,000 instead of capping it at the current $106,800. Because Johnson is an employee and an employer, she would have to pay both portions of the tax, Hurst said, tacking another $30,000 onto her bill.

Johnson said such an increase would force her to consider scaling back operations.

"You can try to pass it on to consumers. But if you raise tuition, you put pressure on family budgets," she said. "For us, we're caught between the devil and the deep blue sea."

Other business owners are also nervous. Jim Murphy, president of EST Analytical in Fairfield, Ohio, which sells analytical instruments to environmental testing labs and pharmaceuticals, said his company is struggling in the sluggish economy. But if profit returns to pre-recession levels -- about $455,000 -- Murphy said his accountant estimates that Obama's proposals could add $60,000 to his $120,000 tax bill.

"The misconception is that guys like me take [our profits] and put it into our pockets," said Murphy, who employs 47 people. "But the money the company earns in a given year is used to buy additional inventory so we can grow and hire." A 50 percent tax increase, he said, would be "really painful."

So let's review the basic facts: Barack Obama IS a socialist, just as Joe the Plumber intuitively understood even as liberal "intellectuals" loudly howled with all the outrage they could muster. There's no question of that fact any longer. In fact, he is essentially a fascist, just as progressives such as Woodrow Wilson and even FDR were before him. And Obama IS coming after small businesses and their owners, just as Joe the Plumber rightly feared. And, furthermore, the Obama White House and the mainstream media alike will apply any tactic to attack and demonize their opponents for political purposes just like the worst socialist regimes in world history.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: economy; smallbusinesses; socialism; taxes

1 posted on 04/28/2009 3:54:28 PM PDT by Michael Eden
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To: Michael Eden

I’m sure Joe doesn’t work for the plumbing company I’ve had to deal with lately.

We need to keep Joe in the public eye. Is he still thinking of running for Congress?


2 posted on 04/28/2009 3:58:03 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Michael Eden

Gees, why don’t the liberals investigate this Joe the Plumber guy? Maybe he has had tax liens or other issues that can be used for character assassination purposes.

Why were the liberals outraged and chortling about the tax issues of Joe the Plumber, but silent or dismissing the innocent tax mistakes of Obama cabinet nominees?


3 posted on 04/28/2009 3:59:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Michael Eden

For Reference later.


4 posted on 04/28/2009 4:08:03 PM PDT by Horusra (The Democrat party is now the National Socialist party (nationalize the banks, socialize healthcare))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, it’s that dreadful Sarah Palin that’s the worst. She’s one that really needs to be investigated.

Democrats? They’re good people. If it appears they’re corrupt, it’s just a rightwing conspiracy. You didn’t see it, but liberal sources will swear that Newt Gingrich put that $90,000 in William Jefferson’s freezer.


5 posted on 04/28/2009 4:09:51 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Horusra

Oh, and it turns out the whole $250000 thing didn’t matter anyway, every bracket is getting taxed more, especially it they enact cap and trade.


6 posted on 04/28/2009 4:10:15 PM PDT by Horusra (The Democrat party is now the National Socialist party (nationalize the banks, socialize healthcare))
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To: Horusra

They’re going to have to come after a lot more people than they promised.

Even if they confiscated ALL the wealth of those making over $250,000, it wouldn’t be anywhere NEAR enough to fund Obama’s spending.

http://www.heritage.org/research/budget/bg2249.cfm

This is the equivalent of what happened in Africa, where tyrants confiscated farms in “the name of the people.” And then famine claimed hundreds of thousands of lives because of the incompetence of those who took over the wealth. Same thing will happen to our economy as we devour the rich.


7 posted on 04/28/2009 4:23:06 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden
Joe the plumber supports The Fair Tax Act(HR25/S296) that will replace all federal income taxes with a national sales tax and abolish the IRS.

David Lightman used to be a reporter for the flaming socialist rag Hartford Courant. He speak once a week on a local talk radio show. His penchant for socialism couldn't be more apparent. He either does not realize or refuse to point out the fact a heavy progressive tax on income is one of Karl Marx's planks in his Communist Manifesto.

Click on the icons below for more information about The Fair Tax Act.


8 posted on 04/28/2009 5:00:55 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

I cited Lightman because he was an example of a leftist saying, “Oh, NO! OBAMA isn’t a socialist!” And provided a definition of socialism which is PRECISELY WHAT OBAMA IS DOING!!!

They LIED to us about socialism. And then Newsweek gleefully trumpets, “We’re socialist now!”

Any liberal today is a socialist/Marxist. It’s just what the party has degenerated into.

The primary purpose of liberalism today is to conceal the massive failure of liberalism.


9 posted on 04/28/2009 5:32:26 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden

A sad and long look at taxes.

At first I thought this was funny... then I realized the
awful truth of it. Be sure to read all the way to the end.

This is not about Democrats or Republicans...

The Tax Poem

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he’s fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won’t be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He’s good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he’s laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
Taxes drove me
to my doom...’

When he’s gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our
nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had
absolutely no national debt, had the largest middleclass in
the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’

And I still have to ‘press 1’ for English!?


10 posted on 04/29/2009 10:29:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foriegn/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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