Posted on 04/30/2009 10:15:22 AM PDT by fiscon1
The Politico graphically illustrates just how ugly the political civil war is getting in the aftermath of Arlen Specter leaving the party.
Faced with a high-profile defection and the prospect of political irrelevance in the Senate, Republicans took off the gloves Wednesday for a ferocious game of finger-pointing.
Republican Sens. Orrin Hatch and George Voinovich blamed the Club for Growth for imposing a right-wing litmus test that chased Arlen Specter out of the Republican Party. The Club for Growth blamed Specter — first for helping to ruin the GOP and then for leaving it. A leading Republican strategist blamed the party for turning its back on moderates. Sen. Lindsey Graham sniped at Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. Specter’s pollster blamed the stimulus bill. Karl Rove blamed Specter himself.
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This is funny. They want to point the blame. Well, I will. A pox on all of them. They’re all a bunch of losers.
Gingrich warns of third party in 2012...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/02/gingrich-warns-of-third-party-in-2012/
We need to go FULL BORE Conservative in the GOP in order to keep the grass roots involved in the Party.
When one crook calls another a crook, it’s not news. They’re all crooks. The general public will soon see that ALL of them are crooks, just like the people who elected them. Government truly does represent the people. When the people decide they need moral values (no, you can’t sleep with your neighbor’s wife), then government will eventually become a better institution and not until such happens.
Not a damned thing, and that's the dirty little secret of this whole media-led, Democrat-fed campaign to convince Republicans to abandon conservatives.
This false meme is being repeated endlessly throughout the mainstream media, with the full approval of the Democrat Party to which Arlen Specter and the media are both now fully committed.
The Republican Party has moved Left, not Right since the 1980s, and it has done so partly in sympathy with the Democrat Party, which has moved far to the Left in the same time period.
One need only consider the issue of so-called "Gay marriage". As recently as 25 years ago, most mainstream liberal Democrats wouldn't even consider such a thing, not because they thought it unachievable, but because they (still) thought it bizarre and destructive of fundamental family values. By contrast, today's mainstream Democrats view opposition to Gay "marriage" as the province of hate-mongers.
The San Francisco Democrats of 1984 did tend to "Blame America First", in Jeanne Kirkpatrick's timeless phrase, but they almost always drew the line of criticizing their country at the water's edge. One cannot imagine Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, George McGovern or Lloyd Bentsen daring to say a word against their native land while speaking from foreign shores. Even Jimmy Carter held his tongue, until senility and bitterness overcame him.
Today, a Democrat President trots around the globe serially apologizing for America's mistakes, real and (mostly) imagined.
Republicans, who in the '90s would have cut off their own arms rather than raise them in support of new Federal entitlement programs, new bureaucracies, and the deficit spending to "fund" them - have in recent times done so with reckless abandon.
No: the Republican Party has not moved to the "Right" at all. Instead it has melted into a muddled, centrist puddle of colorless mush, reflecting nothing, and stirring no one.
The Democrats, for their part have moved to embrace the left of European Social Democrats and the secular, internationalist welfare state model for which they stand. It is in that direction that Arlen Specter has chosen to turn his heels, and given his lifetime proclivity for unprincipled self-interest, it is well that he should.
Rove’s got it about right.
“FULL BORE Conservative”
Your definition?
that’s because democrats ARE moderates, silly!
i think it’s time for you to go back to re-education camp!
So RINOs...Hows it feel to be out of power.....Guess that attitude of “who ya gonna vote for...the ‘Rats?” didn't work out too well for ya? Maybe you RINOs would be better off with the ‘rats after all.....F’in RINOs can go suck eggs as far as MY vote is concerned!
Kansas58
“Getting rid of RINO’s is the best way to avoid a Third Party split. We need to go FULL BORE Conservative in the GOP in order to keep the grass roots involved in the Party.”
I was there voting with Republicans for (RINO) McCain, but I won’t do it again! I will vote Libertarian if no Conservative Republican is on the top of the ticket!
Why should anyone vote Republican today? The party is old, it has no good ideas that people can follow and their marketing machine is a joke.
Oh yeah, they don’t have a person ready to unify the party and while I don’t have an issue with Sarah Palin I see her as filling a role for people who want to believe in someone rather than anything she has done to date. Same for Jindal.
Why don’t those crazy “Pubs point the finger at what caused the problem: their slavish devotion to the false religion of laisse faire capitalism and the false gods of big business and businessmen.
parsy, who once suffered from Republicanitis but got cured
Did Voinobitch cry again?
Ronald Reagan Conservatism.
I think we all need to look at who are elected Republicans are, and if we do not like them we need to recruit against them in the Primary.
I think, after the Primary, most of the time, we should vote for the Republican and NOT the Democrat.
However, I think we need to recruit against ANY Republican who is not with us on Social and Economic issues.
If for no other reason than the fact that this will get that “sacrificial lamb” candidate some experience for future runs, and the fact that this effort will FORCE the incumbent Republican to the RIGHT.
By “FULL BORE CONSERVATIVE” I mean that we need to be recruiting and fighting in the trenches.
We can fully afford to have a few elected officials who are not with us, on every issue, as long as MOST of Congress is WITH US on ALL the issues.
(We need Conservative Republicans to be in the majority. We need to make sure that those Republicans that do NOT agree with us on everything, cancel each other out.)
The PRIMARY is where Conservatives show their strengths and make CHANGES!
Go for it.
I honestly do NOT see the GOP getting better anytime soon. It is fundimentally fractured between conservatives and moderates and no one will give any ground.
I would lay money down on a permanent fracture occuring. The culture war has spread to within the GOP itself.
Getting rid of RINO’s is the best way to avoid a Third Party split.
Exactly! Rebuild from the ground up....ALL RINOS OUT!
Specter is a demoncRAT wearing a PUB title just so that he can hang onto his Chairmanship of Senate Judiciary. What would be the ultimate irony is that a demoncRAT challenger for his PA seat would defeat him followed by the demoncRAT being defeated by a PUB. Where’s Sophocles?
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