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Escape From (Fill in Your City Here), 2009 (Good advice when the SHTF)
SurvivalBlog.com ^ | June 12 2009 | Bill in Chicagoland

Posted on 06/12/2009 3:21:05 PM PDT by appleseed

I think as a boy my favorite stories were always about epic journeys or quests. I always saw myself as the lone hero; bravely making his way through a barren landscape overcoming impossible obstacles and having fantastic adventures along the way. As preppers I think many of us still believe that WTSHTF our trip to “Get out of Dodge” will be an adventure such as those we read in books. I’m afraid however; the reality will be much grimmer than we can imagine. I fear that it will be more like The Road by Cormac McCarthy or the recent novel One Second After by William R. Forstchen , than anything else.

I live in the Chicago metropolitan area, yes far behind enemy lines so to speak, and have been a prepper for most of the last 10 years. Like many of us I must live in a big city because of my job. I need money to survive. Living here is no big deal if you learn to ignore the local politics. My kids are grown and I have no long-term attachments here. If the world falls to pieces I always felt I could leave in an instant. I have the requisite pick-up truck, keep it full of fuel, pre-positioned much of my supplies with my son at a relatively safe location in a small town (population 5,000) about 600 miles from here. I’ve got my G.O.O.D. bag packed and I’m ready to go when ever things go south. Or am I ready?

Let’s review my bug-out plan. Wait a second, I have no plan! This blinding flash of the obvious hit me as I was stuck in rush-hour traffic last Friday evening on my way to my son’s. It took me nearly three hours to get from my apartment on the far north side of the city to I-80 on the far south side. This was the route I assumed I would take to skedaddle. Think about that; I was on Interstate highways the whole time, leaving at 8:00 PM, and it still took me nearly three hours to go less than 80 miles. What’s really scary is that I was thinking all along how light the traffic was. I had no alternative routes in mind. Yikes!

Well, I’ve got to tell you this dear readers, that realization scared the bejeebus out of me. I was so unready to bug out. I had the stuff, the means, the mindset, etc., however, in a meltdown near-panic situation, I would’ve have been just one more member in a stream of hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing the big city. This experience got me off my duff and forced to review what I will do when the next shoe drops in our ongoing economic nightmare.

I drew up a list of what was necessary to implement an action plan to “Escape from Chicago 2009”

1. Have a bug-out kit ready at all times a. No problem I have a bug-out bag packed and ready to go. No last minute packing required. However; I hadn’t checked it in quite some time and when I did I found plenty of things to replace and replenish. Batteries lost their charge. Foods had expired. So did many of the common medications I packed. BTW, I also now have a 72 hour bag with me whenever I leave the house. You can never be sure when the worst thing you can imagine will happen.

2. Bring as much as you can with you. a. Unlike many of you, I am not a man of any particular religious belief system. However, like most of you, I feel what makes us truly human beings is our compassion. I have to say that I don’t think while bugging out, I could look a frightened hungry child in the eyes and say no - nothing for you. Bring more than you need. If you don’t need to share then all the better; there’s more for you when you reach your destination.

3. No stopping to buy last minute items. a. If it’s so bad you need to be bugging-out do you really think others don’t know that and are at that very minute stripping the local Wal-Mart clean? During the Los Angeles riots in 1992 and Hurricane Katrina in 2005, the grocery stores were near impossible to get to and if you could, it didn't matter; they were closed, or had been looted, and were empty. Also, shop owners, for example, may attempt to defend their stores with firearms (a la the Los Angeles Riots) and you don’t want to be caught in the crossfire. I know, I know, Chicago has very strict gun laws so there won’t be any shooting except by a few gun-toting NRA/survivalist types .

Finally, one interesting image comes to mind when I think of someone “liberating” goods from a Wal-Mart. During the Katrina emergency I recall seeing a video of a very obese woman wading through chest deep flood water, polluted with who knows what, holding a Dyson vacuum cleaner she had “liberated” over her head. No electricity, no home, no floor for that matter, but she had an expensive vacuum cleaner she had probably always wanted. Also, an interesting side note is the lack of bookstores looted.

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A lot of good advice here. I commute 1 hour one way to work. I often wondered if the SHTF when I was at work, what would I do? I now carry a BOB to work, I carry a firearm for my job so that's covered. If ever I need to get to the homestead from work, I'll have to traverse through the city to get there. I have an alternate route that is about 40 miles out of the way. Either way, I think it's good to have a plan no matter where you're at when and if poop strikes fan.

I work nights and my wife works days. I don't worry about myself getting home. If for some reason, I need to get to her during the day, we have communication and we have a plan. This all may sound crazy to some, but does it hurt anyone to have a plan of action if and when things go south?

1 posted on 06/12/2009 3:21:06 PM PDT by appleseed
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2 posted on 06/12/2009 3:25:11 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

Mr. Jefferson would never willingly live in one of those hell-holes but if he had to, you can bet he’d have HIS bag ready to go. He fully understood that when the guano starts to move, it’s going straight into the rotating air handling device.

An astute student of history and human nature, Thomas Jefferson, predicted what we see happening here in America. As ambassador in France, he witnessed the run up to the FIRST socialist/communist revolution there. He penned the following observations concerning what would happen HERE should that socialism come to the United States. He CORRECTLY predicted that we would become an increasingly contentious and litigious people as we shouldered one another out of the way to get OURS from the public trough and the trough would soon be empty.

He also knew where the bulk of the problem would originate.

That whirring noise you may hear coming from that mountain in Charlottesville, Virginia is Mr. Jefferson getting up to around 3600 RPM.

(A 6 minute video with this information may be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLu49pq3bI)

As I understand it, at the time of the drafting of the Declaration, Mr. Jefferson originally wrote “…Life, Liberty and PROPERTY…” (meaning that one’s right to freely acquire, use and dispose of his property – to the extent doing so did not violate the same to others – was a Creator endowed right. Because slavery viewed humans as property, the phrase “Pursuit of Happiness” was adopted instead to avoid – at least for the time being — the inevitable debate on that subject.

“The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230

“I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” —Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442

“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173

“Our cities... exhibit specimens of London only; our country is a different nation.” —Thomas Jefferson to Andre de Daschkoff, 1809. ME 12:304

“Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401

“An insurrection... of science, talents, and courage, against rank and birth... has failed in its first effort, because the mobs of the cities, the instrument used for its accomplishment, debased by ignorance, poverty, and vice, could not be restrained to rational action. But the world will recover from the panic of this first catastrophe.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:402

“I fear nothing for our liberty from the assaults of force; but I have seen and felt much, and fear more from English books, English prejudices, English manners, and the apes, the dupes, and designs among our professional crafts. When I look around me for security against these seductions, I find it in the wide spread of our agricultural citizens, in their unsophisticated minds, their independence and their power, if called on, to crush the Humists of our cities, and to maintain the principles which severed us from England.” —Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:120


3 posted on 06/12/2009 3:26:03 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: appleseed

ping


4 posted on 06/12/2009 3:27:32 PM PDT by beefree
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To: Dick Bachert

I allready live in the mountains of PA. Am well defended and have lots of food and game around.


5 posted on 06/12/2009 3:31:20 PM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: appleseed

We have a code word with our daughter who is away at school. If she ever is in danger but is unable to speak freely, she has something she is supposed to say to us that would not sound odd to anyone but us - and she knows we would say goodbye and immediately call her local police. Not a bad idea for all families to have something similar.


6 posted on 06/12/2009 3:31:57 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: appleseed
One thing folks might consider is looking for foreclosure properties just outside their metro cells. Short sales at this time can be had on good properties that until very recently were over-inflated ‘hobby farms’ and out of the price range of many people who could, and would, use them for self-reliant living. Nowadays, many of these over-priced places are just waiting for new ownership. If you've got to drive for an hour each way, so what? In these times you can economize with abundant produce, livestock and lowered utility costs. Buck up, budget for high gas prices and accept the commute. Seeing the weather changing in the sky, stars and night and having your own piece of ground out of the metropolitan tax-theft rings is well worth the effort and expense at this time.
7 posted on 06/12/2009 3:32:14 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: Dick Bachert
“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173

He called that one.

8 posted on 06/12/2009 3:32:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: appleseed
A qoute from the article:...I have to say that I don’t think while bugging out, I could look a frightened hungry child in the eyes and say no...

Dittos

9 posted on 06/12/2009 3:35:06 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: appleseed
What’s really scary is that I was thinking all along how light the traffic was. I had no alternative routes in mind. Yikes!

We always learn the backroads routes when going somewhere. It's so much less aggravation.

10 posted on 06/12/2009 3:38:22 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
If you've got to drive for an hour each way, so what? In these times you can economize with abundant produce, livestock and lowered utility costs. Buck up, budget for high gas prices and accept the commute. Seeing the weather changing in the sky, stars and night and having your own piece of ground out of the metropolitan tax-theft rings is well worth the effort and expense at this time.

I live in the country but work in the city. I'm ex-military. I can appreciate what you say. I've been the fan on a few occassions. I agree with what you say.

11 posted on 06/12/2009 3:41:09 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

I’m going to stay put and just kill and eat whoever comes after me. Any pork recipe will do.


12 posted on 06/12/2009 3:42:42 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: appleseed
I think #1 should be a realistic way to get out of the city when every road is jammed -- or barricaded.

Having all the requisite bug-out tools is no good if you can't escape.

13 posted on 06/12/2009 3:43:49 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: appleseed

If I’m at my real house (and not down where I work) my first indication of any problem would be FR anyway. JimRob starts posting “John has a long mustache” and I’m gonna know I got houseguests on the way. Eat up the froze food first and then start on the venison. Note to self: stock up on beer.


14 posted on 06/12/2009 3:51:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: appleseed

IF I have to evacuate San Jose, it wont be pretty. I’m planning on going up through the mountains,,, dont know where , but away from the savages.


15 posted on 06/12/2009 3:52:21 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Trod Upon
Any pork recipe will do.

Don't eat the tattooed pork rinds....

16 posted on 06/12/2009 3:59:39 PM PDT by gundog
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To: Billthedrill

Just a note, if it’s venison or meat only, difficulty with #2 may be a bit tough. Just speaking from experience. Maybe a laxitive on hand or if possible greens as in lettuce will help. Just an opinion - but pickled green tomato’s works great for me. Fried green tomato’s and fried morrels loosen a guy up better than ex-lax.

Just sayin.


17 posted on 06/12/2009 4:15:29 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

Katrina made it obvious that the feds intend to corral (and disarm) people into holding areas in the event of an emergency.

The government would likely confiscate and redistribute private stockpiles. This will be unproductive but blaming “the rich” who “hoarded” necessities will make the masses feel better. More important the government will be seen as “doing something because doing nothing is not an option.”


18 posted on 06/12/2009 4:20:43 PM PDT by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: Trod Upon; appleseed

“I’m going to stay put...”

Bingo. If there is an EMP blast when the SHTF no one is going anywhere - don’t challenge me on that because I know very little about EMP and you will win the debate.

My son talks about buying some acreage for somewhere to go. I argue it would be more effective to organize a neighborhood defense/support group make sure everyone stocks necessities, start a shooting club and spend more time at the range.
Being “out” will probably mean not immediately having the defensive structures one would want to have.


19 posted on 06/12/2009 4:26:26 PM PDT by frog in a pot (If imposed, socialism, facism & Shariah will violate the Constitution and be "domestic enemies".)
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To: frog in a pot

We’re staying put too. EMP, economic collapse, etc.. Doesn’t matter what the trigger, best advice is be prepared. We have made pacts with some in our area. Easy for us because we live in the country and are friends with farmers and land owners. Best advice is, be prepared and be aware of your surroundings.


20 posted on 06/12/2009 4:48:02 PM PDT by appleseed
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