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MMR Causes Autism Another Win In US Federal Court
wordpress.com ^ | June 14, 2009 | childhealthsafety

Posted on 06/15/2009 4:06:15 PM PDT by SecAmndmt

Julia a three year old US citizen has just won substantial compensation in the US Federal Court for autism caused by MMR vaccine – says her mother.

What is different about this case? They kept the “autism” word out of the case. Many parents in other US cases have been advised to do this:-

CBS News has found that since 1988, the vaccine court has awarded money judgments, often in the millions of dollars, to thirteen hundred and twenty two families whose children suffered brain damage from vaccines. In many … cases, the government paid out awards following a judicial finding that vaccine injury lead to the child’s autism spectrum disorder. In each of these cases, the plaintiffs’ attorneys made the same tactical decision made by Bailey Bank’s lawyer, electing to opt out of the highly charged Omnibus Autism Proceedings and argue their autism cases in the regular vaccine court. In many other successful cases, attorneys elected to steer clear of the hot button autism issue altogether and seek recovery instead for the underlying brain damage that caused their client’s autism.”: [Vaccine Court: Autism Debate Continues - Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and David Kirby Huffington Post 24 Feb 2009]

Julia’s Mom emphasises Julia has no formal diagnosis of autism and says:-

after Julia’s last neuro appointment when her dr said she had signs of autism. I didn’t want that “word” in her records until Julia’s case was decided.

Julia’s diagnosis was “Encephalitis (inflammation of her brain) most likely attributed to the MMR-V (measles, mumps, reubella, chicken pox) vaccine she had received nine days previously.

I do not want this to be misunderstood. She was never formally diagnosed. Do I think that there is a link between vaccines and Autism, absolutely. Is Julia Autistic? I’m not sure.“

[See our related story: Japanese Data Show Vaccines Cause Autism]

However, there is good research to show ASD is a condition resulting from an encephalopathy (a degenerative disease of the brain). Encephalopathies are normally caused by an infection (90% of the time), and most often we will expect a viral infection. MMR contains three live viruses. [See also Explaining Vaccines Autism & Mitochondrial Dysfunction/Disorder]

If this is what compensation means for Julia’s Mom think of all the families and children who should never have got sick in the first place and will never get compensation just because they used the “autism” word. Julia’s Mom says she was:

accepting the loss of the world as i knew it before she got sick, before my divorce, before i lost my house.

This is such a huge, huge, huge help for Julia and my family”

Does it help to think your child is “just a little bit” autistic but still injured and in need of financial help with medical care for life? Autism Spectrum Conditions are a spectrum from very mild to incapacitating.

Not only does it not end like this for other families – some children die as this 2005 Federal Court decision in a case very similar to Julia’s shows [and which took 9 years to achieve a decision]:-

Eric Fernandez Cusati v Secretary for Health and Human Services

How many cases are like these ones? Who knows the exact number – the majority of decisions are never published – kept in secret. And then there are all the cases the US Secretary of Health and Human Services settles – also kept in secret. No one publicly knows for sure how many.

Thanks to Julia’s Mom for telling us all about this one case.

And with 1 in 38 British boys with an autistic condition [and the problem is not just autism] the question must be asked – how many children who would otherwise have grown up healthy are going to continue to be sacrificed and claimed to be for the very few but in reality for drug company profits in their move to a new business model based on “vaccines for all”. [Autism Rates Rocket – 1 in 38 British Boys – Cambridge Study ]

Today it is your kid. Tomorrow it is you.


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KEYWORDS: autism; braininjury; mmr; vaccines
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Educate before you vaccinate!
1 posted on 06/15/2009 4:06:16 PM PDT by SecAmndmt
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To: SecAmndmt

Educate before you vaccinate!

I agree and then vaccinate away. I am a proponent of getting kids vaccinated...I know some aren’t. We have military folks who get out of the military so their kids are not vaccinated (especially if they get orders overseas)...dumb move on the parents part but again their decision.


2 posted on 06/15/2009 4:12:14 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SecAmndmt

I would love some U.S. Statistics on how many kids are effected DEFINITELY from vaccines. Not some random Mother making this prognosis as stated in the first sentence.


3 posted on 06/15/2009 4:13:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SecAmndmt

thirteen hundred and twenty two families whose children suffered brain damage from vaccines.

Reread the story again...keep getting “scary facts”...1322 families out of 100 million kids born since 1988. I seriously hope FREEPERS are not buying this “scare tactic” story. How many kids that did not take the vaccine got the mumps, measles, scarlet fever, etc and died from this?


5 posted on 06/15/2009 4:16:53 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SycoDon

“Educate yourself on what it is like to die of whooping cough.”

Fortunately, children who are otherwise healthy can survive just about any childhood disease such as whooping cough.

I’m far more concerned about the damage that vaccines and our vaccine policy cause to children (ie. all children who are given vaccines).


6 posted on 06/15/2009 4:20:32 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
Julia a three year old US citizen has just won substantial compensation in the US Federal Court for autism caused by MMR vaccine – says her mother because of idiot jurors.
7 posted on 06/15/2009 4:24:42 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: napscoordinator

“effected DEFINITELY from vaccines.”

Every single child is adversely affected by vaccines.

Iatrogenic conditions such as autism are ~100% preventable.

For more information on how vaccines damage the brains and developing immune systems of infants and young children, read Dr. Russell Blaylock’s (retired neurosurgeon) excellent documentation here:

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/


8 posted on 06/15/2009 4:25:06 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Thanks....bump. I am going to have to seriously give some time to this but not at 1:25 am...lol. I am bumping this so that I am reminded of this tomorrow. Thank you for the update. I am interested in seeing this.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 4:26:34 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

“How many kids that did not take the vaccine got the mumps, measles, scarlet fever, etc and died from this?”

Very few died from these conditions before mass vaccination began. On the other hand, many obtained lifetime immunity after “getting” the mumps, measles and scarlet fever.


10 posted on 06/15/2009 4:28:18 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: napscoordinator

I see from your profile that you say that your are Catholic and pro-life. I am also a pro-life Christian.

Did you know that some vaccines are cultured from aborted fetal tissue?

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/abortedtissue.htm


11 posted on 06/15/2009 4:38:13 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SycoDon

The rates of polio are going up as well, because people who have no direct knowledge of these horrid diseases are refusing to vaccinate their kids.

Court “wins” such as this, based more on sympathy than science, have the potential to do a LOT of harm.


12 posted on 06/15/2009 4:38:22 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SecAmndmt

My father had polio twice as a child. Thank god for the polio vaccine, it saved a lot of little kids and adults from the kind of suffering he went through.


13 posted on 06/15/2009 4:40:15 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Cronyism, Protectionism, Socialism, Obamunism)
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To: exDemMom

“The rates of polio are going up as well, because people who have no direct knowledge of these horrid diseases are refusing to vaccinate their kids.”

These diseases may be miserable, but they are not deadly.

I sense that you think that the court should have made its decision based on something other than the facts of the case. Many of us would call that legal relativism (Sotomayor-style?). If children are being damaged by vaccines - and they are, gravely - and Congress has chosen to give immunity to the vaccine manufacturers, what do you think parents of the vaccine-injured children should do? Lose their home and live under a bridge? Someone has to pay.

We researched vaccines extensively before opting not to vaccinate our children. None of the pro-vaccine books were of any value because they simply re-stated public policy. Where are the double-blind placebo studies? If vaccines are safe, why do vaccine manufacturers get immunity from the billions of dollars of awards to vaccine-damaged children?


14 posted on 06/15/2009 4:53:39 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
MANY also died from these diseases before vaccines. Prior to the development of the measles vaccine, 5.7 million people died each year from measles.

Source: http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih1/diseases/activities/activity5_measles-database.htm#5

15 posted on 06/15/2009 4:55:55 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Abby4116

The measles death rate in America had already dropped by about 99% between 1901 and 1968, when the measles vaccine was introduced.

I don’t know about the worldwide rates, but public sanitation and improvements in nutrition in America were responsible for the drop in measles deaths here.

I wouldn’t we surprised if someone in sub-saharan Africa did not have access to sewage treatment, clean water and the cod liver oil which was used to successfully manage measles before the vaccine appeared.


16 posted on 06/15/2009 5:02:08 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

It is not the deaths one has to worry about, it is the complications.

Mumps:
Inflammation of the testicles (orchitis)
Inflammation of the brain and/or tissue covering the brain and spinal cord (encephalitis and meningitis, respectively)
Pancreatitis
Inflammation of the ovaries and/or breasts (oophoritis and mastitis, respectively)
Deafness, which is usually permanent.

Measles:

Respiratory conditions (croup, bronchitis, or bronchiolitis)
Eye conditions (corneal ulceration, keratitis, or blindness)
Diarrhea
Ear infections (otitis media)
Abdominal pain
Pneumonia
Encephalitis
Seizures
Death.

rubella:
Congenital Rubella Syndrome :
Deafness
Cataracts
Heart defects (patent ductus arteriosus, interventricular septal defect, pulmonic stenosis)
Mental retardation
Liver and spleen damage
Pneumonia.

Diptheria:
myocarditis
kidney failure

That’s just a start


17 posted on 06/15/2009 5:02:22 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: SecAmndmt

“These diseases may be miserable, but they are not deadly.”

Ok, you got me curious. You include polio in that category? Do you suggest we not immunize against polio?


18 posted on 06/15/2009 5:03:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Most of these symptoms are very rare in healthy people who are given proper medical treatment.

Some of the measles symptoms you list are common side effects of the vaccination, in addition to brain damage (to varying degrees) in every single child given the measles shot.

Vaccination is probably about the most unscientific component of modern medicine. I am supposed to trust public health pronouncements about vaccines, when there is no (or very little) double-blind placebo, independent research of the short-term and long-term consequences of vaccines. No thanks.


19 posted on 06/15/2009 5:12:01 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: DesertRhino

Polio might be the only vaccine that I am personally remotely comfortable with.

That being said, years ago some of the IPV polio vaccine was found to contain simian virus 40 (SV-40), which causes brain cancer. You can read about it here:

http://www.sv40foundation.org/

ANY disease can be deadly if the person who has the disease lives under conditions of poor sanitation, poor nutrition and without proper drinking water, or otherwise has a damaged immune system. If you are interested in reading how vaccines damage the immune systems of children when administered before about the age of 3, see my previous link to Russell Blaylock’s website.


20 posted on 06/15/2009 5:23:04 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
I do not go blindly into these things. When my youngest son was 5 the chickenpox vaccine had just become available. My pediatrician offered it, but I passed because it was a new vaccine. He had the chickenpox.

I resisted the HepB vaccine for my kids because they did not engage in any of the risk behaviors. I had the vaccine because I was a nurse.

If a woman gets German Measles when she is pregnant, it is too late to treat the problems the baby will have.

My opinion is that the benefits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks. My hunch is that even with “proper care” the number of complications for the vaccines would be greater than the complications from the vaccines. (I know, my hunches are not scientific. Anecdotal at best.)

21 posted on 06/15/2009 5:32:09 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

“I do not go blindly into these things.”

God bless you...neither do I.

“My opinion is that the benefits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks.”

I highly recommend Dr Russell Blaylock’s website to you.

Anyone who wants to consider risks vs. benefits of vaccines should watch Dr. Sherry Tenpenny’s DVD’s.

How can you explain 1 in 50 children in some states being diagnosed with autism spectrum disorders? I know the medical establishment claims better diagnosis, but anyone who has seen seriously autistic children knows that the diagnosis explanation is both ridiculous and unprovable (and where are all the seriously autistic adults whose diagnosis was missed?!!).


22 posted on 06/15/2009 5:43:02 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

BTW: that’s a great screen name!


23 posted on 06/15/2009 5:48:12 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: ShandaLear
Being born in 1939 I remember Polio...Every summer my mother would stop me from certain activities because it was what she termed Polio season...I was glad for the vaccine when I had my kids. They were given the Salk vaccine.

Also DPW and I would recommend that also, as they are protection against killer diseases...MMR I would not have given to my kids if it had been available..My 4 boys and 1 daughter had all 3 diseases...no side effects. Mumps in children do not cause the same problem it does in adult males. But there were certain things one did when a child got any of those 3 diseases.

Too many vaccines for immature immune systems is stupid..The government tried to force infants to get Hepatitis vaccine until the general public raised a fit...another vaccine not needed for infants..

.I do believe that some of these vaccines the gov't pushes is the result of heavy lobbying by the companies involved..

When I took my daughter in for her smallpox vaccination, the doctor noted she had a slight fever and would not give it at that time...Later he said it was not necessary as smallpox was now unheard of in the USA. That was in the late 60's. But it seems I have read someplace that smallpox is making a comeback in the US and possibility due to lax immigration laws...

24 posted on 06/15/2009 5:54:03 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: SecAmndmt

Not only do unborn children have a right to be born, they have a right to be born free of the very serious complications of rubella.


25 posted on 06/15/2009 6:00:39 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: SecAmndmt
I noted typos in your post. I think you meant to write: Auti$m $pectrum $yndrome. Ya know, you just have to wonder if there is some benefit to having your kid(s) diagnosed with some kind of $yndrome.
26 posted on 06/15/2009 6:09:44 PM PDT by Prolixus (Summum ius summa inuria.)
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To: SecAmndmt
I grew up before the vaccines and I had the measles and mumps. No way would I wish those diseases on any child if it were preventable. Complications were common.

I felt that I was protecting my children by having them vaccinated. They have made the same choice for their own children.

We had great sanitation and nutrition when I was growing up but measles, mumps and rubella was still a problem.

27 posted on 06/15/2009 6:34:09 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

“Not only do unborn children have a right to be born, they have a right to be born free of the very serious complications of rubella.”

But unborn children don’t have the “right” to have their mother injected with the non-double blind tested toxic cocktails known as vaccines, any more than they have “right” to demand that their mother play Russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver.

Unborn children DO have the right to expect their mother to take care of their own bodies (nutrition, exercise & rest etc) and avoid injections of thimerosal, squalene, cocaine, aluminum adjuvant, fetal tissue bits, formaldehyde etc. (not all are ingredients of vaccines).


28 posted on 06/15/2009 6:37:11 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Abby4116

Yes, vaccines work and they are safe. It’s too bad this hysteria is going to make vaccines that much more expensive for everybody else.


29 posted on 06/15/2009 6:39:00 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Prolixus

“Ya know, you just have to wonder if there is some benefit to having your kid(s) diagnosed with some kind of $yndrome.”

Illness is very profitable for some.


30 posted on 06/15/2009 6:43:31 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Moonman62

“Yes, vaccines work”

Unfortunately, only for drug companies, vaccine manufacturers, and the medical industrial complex.

“they are safe”

...and yet no doctor has been willing to step forward and accept the challenge to have a body-weight scaled/sized vaccine shot full of thimerosal in exchange for a large sum of cash.

...and yet, if one reads the minutes of the CDC’s Simpsonwood conference (obtained under FOIA), one finds veteran pediatricians privately acknowledging that the thimerosal-autism correlation exists, and that they would never give a thimerosal laden shot to anyone in their family because of the autism risk.


31 posted on 06/15/2009 6:54:10 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
and that they would never give a thimerosal laden shot to anyone in their family because of the autism risk

What thimerosal laden shot do they give to other people's children?

32 posted on 06/15/2009 8:02:53 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

bump


33 posted on 06/15/2009 8:39:15 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: SecAmndmt
Vaccination is probably about the most unscientific component of modern medicine. I am supposed to trust public health pronouncements about vaccines, when there is no (or very little) double-blind placebo, independent research of the short-term and long-term consequences of vaccines.

Given what I take to be your position that vaccines cause autism, this statement is ironic to say the least.

34 posted on 06/15/2009 8:45:02 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: Moonman62
Yes, vaccines work and they are safe. It’s too bad this hysteria is going to make vaccines that much more expensive for everybody else.

The study conducted by Wakefield that appeared in Lancet back in 1998 has been thoroughly debunked. It was a small n study (12) and as if that wasn't enough, they fabricated their results.

The "evidence" that individuals use to support the idea that autism is caused by MMR is purely anecdotal. The symptoms typically associated with autism often emerge around the same time that the MMR shot is administered. Thus, although we all know that correlation does not equal causation, people have successfully pushed this notion.

35 posted on 06/15/2009 9:02:25 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“What thimerosal laden shot do they give to other people’s children?”

The CDC acknowledged, in their internal Simpsonwood meeting minutes back around 2001, that there was a strong correlation between thimerosal in vaccines and autism. Some wanted to hide the correlation. Others made the point that the correlation was too strong to be dismissed and that they wouldn’t allow their own grandchildren to be given the shots.


36 posted on 06/15/2009 9:10:20 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Interesting question. It is my understanding that thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001.

Very intersting.


37 posted on 06/15/2009 9:12:41 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: SecAmndmt

Thimerosal is no longer used as of 2001 correct?

And yet we still have autism.


38 posted on 06/15/2009 9:13:44 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: napscoordinator
...thirteen hundred and twenty two families whose children suffered brain damage from vaccines...

You have a gaping proof problem.

39 posted on 06/15/2009 9:14:16 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: SecAmndmt
Iatrogenic conditions such as autism are ~100% preventable.

Garbage.

40 posted on 06/15/2009 9:15:12 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: SecAmndmt

So sad that juries dole out money in cases like this based on no science at all. No wonder medical care is so expensive.


41 posted on 06/15/2009 9:15:50 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SecAmndmt

Polio isn’t deadly?


42 posted on 06/15/2009 9:16:19 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Hey Petronski, long time no see.

Garbage is an understatement.


43 posted on 06/15/2009 9:16:38 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: SecAmndmt

Your posts are ignorant. You seem to know very little of medicine particularly or science in general.


44 posted on 06/15/2009 9:18:53 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wolf24

Ask these jokers how they account for differences along the autism spectrum (i.e., stereotypic movements disorder; PDD; Asperger)....different levels of non-existent thimerosal in the shot perhaps?

IMHO this is all “Refrigerator Mothers” redux.


45 posted on 06/15/2009 9:19:34 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: Prolixus

Have you ever met an autistic child?


46 posted on 06/15/2009 9:19:37 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

see my post 45 (it was meant for you but I clicked the wrong link)


47 posted on 06/15/2009 9:20:21 PM PDT by wolf24 ("Another speech....another problem solved. Who ever knew it could be so easy?")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Can you believe the absolute, blindered, pig-ignorant stupidity this thread represents?


48 posted on 06/15/2009 9:21:09 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wolf24

I hadn’t heard of “refrigerator mothers.” You made your points very successfully, and I thank you for posting it.


49 posted on 06/15/2009 9:23:51 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wolf24

“Thimerosal is no longer used as of 2001 correct?”

Existing stocks of thimerosal containing vaccines prior to the ban are still in use.

The multi-use vials of flu vaccine still contain mercury.


50 posted on 06/15/2009 9:25:31 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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