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Oldest Icon of St. Paul Discovered

Posted on 06/28/2009 11:54:12 AM PDT by Mighty_Quinn

Oldest known icon of St. Paul discovered!

http://singinginthereign.blogspot.com/2009/06/oldest-icon-of-st-paul-discovered.html


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: ancientrome; archaeology; christians; godsgravesglyphs; stpaul; vatican

1 posted on 06/28/2009 11:54:12 AM PDT by Mighty_Quinn
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Oldest known icon of St. Paul discovered!

http://singinginthereign.blogspot.com/2009/06/oldest-icon-of-st-paul-discovered.html


2 posted on 06/28/2009 11:55:46 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Wow. He kinda looks evil.


3 posted on 06/28/2009 11:59:09 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Just the “artist’s” rendition.


4 posted on 06/28/2009 12:00:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Mighty_Quinn
the oldest known icon of St. Paul was recently discovered in the catacombs of St. Thecla, which is located on the Via Ostiensis. The image apparently dates to the fourth century.

Ping for later

5 posted on 06/28/2009 12:01:06 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: SunkenCiv; NYer; Salvation

pings all around (GGG & Catholic)


6 posted on 06/28/2009 12:03:20 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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7 posted on 06/28/2009 12:04:13 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Mighty_Quinn

In the apocryphal book “Acts of Paul and Thecla,” I believe there is a description of Paul.

I’ll see if I can find it.


8 posted on 06/28/2009 12:07:38 PM PDT by Daniel II
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To: Daniel II

Ah ... Here it is:

“And he saw Paul coming, a man little of stature, thin-haired upon the head, crooked in the legs, of good state of body, with eyebrows joining and nose somewhat hooked, full of grace; for sometimes he appeared like a man, and sometime he had the face of an angel.”

Acts of Paul and Thecla


9 posted on 06/28/2009 12:11:08 PM PDT by Daniel II
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To: Repeal The 17th

Looks like John Calvin. Hmmm.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 12:16:09 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Looks like a pizza.


11 posted on 06/28/2009 12:33:53 PM PDT by Argus (We've gone downtown to Clown Town, and that's where we'll be living from now on..)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Maybe there is a pic floating around somewhere from his high school or college yearbook? (:

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12 posted on 06/28/2009 12:51:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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Okay, that was funny.


13 posted on 06/28/2009 12:53:29 PM PDT by Daniel II
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
L’Osservatore Romano is reporting that last Friday the oldest known icon of St. Paul was recently discovered in the catacombs of St. Thecla, which is located on the Via Ostiensis. The image apparently dates to the fourth century. It was discovered during a restoration project.

Since L’Osservatore Romano is in Italian, here's the story from Reuters:

ROME (Reuters) - Vatican archaeologists using laser technology have discovered what they believe is the oldest image in existence of St Paul the Apostle, dating from the late 4th century, on the walls of catacomb beneath Rome.

Vatican newspaper Osservatore Romano, revealing the find on Sunday, published a picture of a frescoed image of the face of a man with a pointed black beard on a red background, inside a bright yellow halo. The high forehead is furrowed.

Experts of the Ponitifical Commission for Sacred Archaeology made the discovery on June 19 in the Catacomb of Santa Tecla in Rome and describe it as the "oldest icon in history dedicated to the cult of the Apostle," according to the Vatican newspaper.

The discovery, which involved removing layers of clay and limestone using lasers, was announced a day before Rome observes a religious holiday for the Feasts of St Peter and St Paul.

Peter and Paul are revered by Christians as the greatest early missionaries. Converting on the road to Damascus following a blinding vision of Jesus, Paul took the Gospel to pagan Greeks and Romans and met his martyrdom in Rome in about 65 AD.

Early Christians in Rome buried their dead in catacombs dug into the soft rock under the city and decorated the underground walls with devotional images, often in the Pompeian style.

Here are some of the amazing pictures that have been released.





























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14 posted on 06/28/2009 1:15:10 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Daniel II

Ha ha! I just looked that over again. Paul had a unibrow!


15 posted on 06/28/2009 1:29:06 PM PDT by Daniel II
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To: Daniel II

That is so cool. Our church’s history is so amazing.


16 posted on 06/28/2009 1:49:20 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Dutchboy88

Looks like Shakespeare...


17 posted on 06/28/2009 1:53:20 PM PDT by x_plus_one ("Salvation comes about though change in individual lives, not through the ending of unjust society")
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To: SandRat

Was this in Fr. Guido Sarducci’s gossip column?


18 posted on 06/28/2009 2:35:47 PM PDT by Erasmus (Barack Hussein Obama: America's toast!)
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additional:

Rome Catacomb Reveals “Oldest” Image Of St Paul
Reuters | June 28, 2009
Posted on 06/28/2009 3:06:32 PM PDT by Steelfish
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19 posted on 06/28/2009 3:41:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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20 posted on 06/28/2009 3:42:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Repeal The 17th; NYer

Wow! Amazing. Thanks for sharing.


21 posted on 06/28/2009 4:14:32 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: Mighty_Quinn


Andrei Rublev's 15c. icon, and the 5c. fresco

Another proof that Orthodox icons are portraits.

22 posted on 06/28/2009 4:33:38 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Erasmus

“Was this in Fr. Guido Sarducci’s gossip column?”

Now, when you smokeda marijuana ...


23 posted on 06/28/2009 8:08:05 PM PDT by Daniel II
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To: annalex

That is truly amazing.


24 posted on 06/29/2009 11:42:40 AM PDT by naturalized
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The Orthodox iconographic tradition has been interrupted by the iconoclast heresy, and the iconographic tradition in the West was never particularly strong. This is why the images of Christ in the catacombs, while the earliest, depict Him as a shaven Roman patrician, clearly a product of the artist’s imagination. The images of Christ in the Orthodox icons from that period did not survive. However, the canonical iconographic image of Christ, while not as ancient on the icons that survived (the earliest is 6c), matches the Shroud of Turin. We have to conclude that the iconographers worked from prior sources that began as portraits that were corrected by those who remembered how Jesus, Mary and the Apostles looked. The image of St. Paul, evidently, is also a portrait. Some features are stylized, to be sure, but the overall construction of the face is portraitically correct.

It is not much different from the manner in which the oral tradition was subsequently transformed into written Gospels.


25 posted on 06/29/2009 12:54:53 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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26 posted on 06/29/2009 9:10:11 PM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah and Todd Palin and the Deadliest Catch captains should run this country)
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