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POLARIK springs some startling news re McCain's birth certificate.(interesting read)
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Posted on 07/06/2009 8:32:09 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

(From Plainsradio blog)

POLARIK springs some startling news re; McJuan's birth certificate.

Private ping: The "other" forged birth certificate From Polarik | 06/25/2009 11:33:30 AM PDT new

Keep this under your hats until I spring it on people

I was doing research today on the eligibility and birth certificate controversy that PRECEDED Obama.

Namely, the one on John McCain. It appears that:

1. Not only was there a forged birth certificate for McCain, he didn’t produce it. SHADES OF RATHERGATE! Someone named Don Lamb in Panama forged a Panamanian BC showing that McCain was born there in 1936.

Wait! There’s more!

Not only is the typeface on it from a Selectric IBM, it has the same Rattan background pattern as is on the Hawaiian COLB! (but in black and white). No one ever challenged it. McCain did not want to publicly release his BC, but he did show it to Newsbusters and the Washintton Post, as well as the Senate.

2. The mainstream media was all over it, including CBS, NY Times {twice}, Washington Post {twice}, Dallas Morning News, Newsbusters {twice}, and HuffingtonPost. The first time that the Washington Post published a story about McCain’s eligibility was in 1998!

3. The Hollander v. McCain lawsuit was, without a doubt, the weakest, lamest lawsuit ever brought on the NBC issue.

4. After that lawsuit was thrown out because of “lack of standing,” a term already very familiar in the legal community long before Hollander brought his suit, and obviously long before Berg brought a similar suit, but one much stronger.

5. In July 11, the NYT ran their second article on McCain’s eligibility issue AFTER the Hollander suit was tossed, AFTER the Senate resolution of April 30 proclaiming that McCain was an NBC, and AFTER Obama’s own NBC status was questioned. The NYT argued that the Senate resolution was nonbinding, and they also included an analysis by U. of Arizona law professor, Gabriel Chin who focused on a 1937 law that conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, but after McCain’s birthday to make him a natural-born citizen.

So, all of this crap happened six months before Factcheck did their “Born in the USA” article that was supposed to be “the final chapter.” The Libtards were all over McCain’s ass all that time, right up until the heat was turned on Obama.

Then, suddenly WE were the wingnuts with the tinfoil hats.


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1 posted on 07/06/2009 8:32:09 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Not to worry, MCCAIN will NEVER be President, LOL!


2 posted on 07/06/2009 8:35:50 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: cycle of discernment

Who can be trusted???


3 posted on 07/06/2009 8:39:48 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: cycle of discernment

That someone would dispute the citizenry of the son and grandson of two famous admirals in the USN is quite different than someone with multiple fathers of foreign nationality, a Muslim middle name, knows the Muslim call to prayer by heart and bows at the waist to the Saudi king.


4 posted on 07/06/2009 8:43:56 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: geologist

Me, mines real with foot print also.send $1000 will send copy over night express.


5 posted on 07/06/2009 8:44:14 AM PDT by bikerman (Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.)
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To: cycle of discernment
The Libtards were all over McCain’s ass all that time, right up until the heat was turned on Obama.

Yep.

If McCain had been elected it would have been the libtards screaming that he's not a natural borne citizen, and it would have been covered by every major news organization.

Hell for that matter would have happened sooner if Hillary had got the Dem nomination instead of Obama. Would have been pounded by CNN/MSNBC night and day running up to the election.

6 posted on 07/06/2009 8:44:16 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: cycle of discernment
Well, yeah. From about February to April or so of 2008 the liberal press was all over McCain about his natural born status. They dropped it after the senate resolution in which obama inserted some key language.

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511


7 posted on 07/06/2009 8:48:49 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: cycle of discernment; Polarik

The facts/truth have been missed as usual. But when does that matter:

McCain was NOT born in the Canal Zone. He was born in Colon, Republic of Panama, which made him a Panamanian citizen at the moment of his birth.


8 posted on 07/06/2009 8:53:36 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: cycle of discernment; All

Who’s John McCain?


9 posted on 07/06/2009 8:58:46 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: cycle of discernment

How can “Lack of Standing” be used to throw out ANY lawsuit by an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Last I heard the president represents all citizens not just democraps, so to say only the democrap party needs to see his BC is a TRAVESTY


10 posted on 07/06/2009 8:59:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unabel to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
"The facts/truth have been missed as usual. But when does that matter:

McCain was NOT born in the Canal Zone. He was born in Colon, Republic of Panama, which made him a Panamanian citizen at the moment of his birth."


Doesn't being born to a United States Citizen Mother and a United States Citizen Father, as long as one parent has lived in the U.S., make the baby a natural born citizen, regardless of the location of birth?

Maybe I'm missing something here.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html
11 posted on 07/06/2009 9:05:51 AM PDT by green pastures
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To: Mr. K
Last I heard the president represents all citizens not just democraps

You didn't get the memo?

12 posted on 07/06/2009 9:06:14 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: cycle of discernment

McPain was born to two US citizens, unlike you-no-whu.


13 posted on 07/06/2009 9:08:31 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Wait a minute, there were no hospital facilities in the Canal Zone itself. All children of Service members in Panama were delivered at the hospital in Colon and had both a Panamanian and American Birth Certificate issued. Would this not give them dual citizenship? They would then choose which to use permanently.


14 posted on 07/06/2009 9:36:11 AM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: cycle of discernment
Fine, I didn't want him either.
15 posted on 07/06/2009 9:48:17 AM PDT by ryan71 (We're in deep kimchi!)
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To: null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

Ah, behold! The sock puppets attack. Here we go again.

The truth of the matter is that I have seen and examined ALL of the images alleged to be genuine copies of real birth certificates for both Obama and McCain, and to date, I have not seen, for either individual, a real copy of a genuine, certified birth certificate that is both legible, complete, and unaltered.

What is truly startling to me, is recognizing that the incredibly ignorant, Obama-deluded morons, who INSIST that his piece of crap document image, (an image so bogus that a three year old could spot it) is a real copy of his original birth certificate, are the same incredibly ignorant, Obama-deluded morons, who also INSIST that McCain was born in Colon, Panama on the basis of yet, another piece of crap document image (or images).

Why on Earth do they think that I, or anyone else who actually has a brain and knows how to use it, would accept anything that THEY claim to be true??

Seriously! You would think that, by now, after a year of being wrong about Obama, that these mental midgets would have caught onto the glaring fact, that no one in the Universe, and certainly not on this forum, gives a rat's pitoot what they think, say, or do, in light of their pathetic, but predictable, track record.

However, I have to take something back. After further review of what I said above, I admit that I set the bar way too high for them to spot a bogus document image.

Mea-Effing-Culpa!

I said on this very forum, that neither McCain’s alleged birth certificate copy nor Obama’s alleged birth certificate copy are credible sources of information regarding where or when they were born. That, too, I'm afraid, sailed over their heads like the Shuttle Atlantis.

So, unless they have a real copy of McCain’s actual birth certificate, that is both legible, complete, and unadulterated, I know that I speak for a lot of FReepers here when I say, "The exit is to your Left. Don't let the door hit you in the head."

And, have a nice day!

16 posted on 07/06/2009 8:04:52 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik

Notwithstanding discrepancies with the Constitution (1789), and the 1790 & 1795 Immigration Acts, readability, etc ...

... at least with McCain, we DO have the names of hospitals and certifying officials to follow up with. That's certainly more than Obama's offered up.
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17 posted on 07/06/2009 9:10:36 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
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Check out # 17.

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18 posted on 07/06/2009 9:17:53 PM PDT by LucyT (We lived in the best of times, in the best place, in all of Human History --Lucy T.)
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To: Polarik

LOL.

Too true.


19 posted on 07/06/2009 9:18:35 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: rlmorel

“...someone with multiple fathers...”

Now that is funny, its late and I immediately thought of Eli Wallach screaming at Clint Eastwood in the “Good, Bad and the Ugly” about being the son of a thousand fathers.

Thanks and good night.


20 posted on 07/06/2009 10:06:15 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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