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Ginsberg: Roe V Wade was to reduce undesirable population types. Repost
New York Times via Barry's Obamanation Blog ^ | 7-9-09 | EMILY BAZELON

Posted on 07/09/2009 6:37:01 AM PDT by 51773photo

Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ginsburg; scotus

1 posted on 07/09/2009 6:37:02 AM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 51773photo

Blacks are about 12% of the population but account for almost 40% of all abortions...


2 posted on 07/09/2009 6:38:20 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 51773photo

Thanks for catching an extreme liberal justice in an important candid moment


3 posted on 07/09/2009 6:39:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: 51773photo

Actually he’s saying that he originally thought that, but when the Supremes upheld the Hyde amendment, he decided that this perception was wrong...


4 posted on 07/09/2009 6:42:35 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: silverleaf

She’s a regular Margaret Sanger.


5 posted on 07/09/2009 6:42:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: 2banana

Blacks are about 12% of the population but account for almost 40% of all abortions...

Yes, I remember back in the day when Jesse Jackson would rail about this until the Liberal Elites got hold of him and got his mind right.

Ginsberg’s opinion is just typical Progressive Eugenics....
Margaret Sanger, Roger Baldwin, et.al.


6 posted on 07/09/2009 6:44:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: massgopguy

Exactly, progressive support for eugenics on full display.


7 posted on 07/09/2009 6:44:41 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: 51773photo
Glenn Beck always says this. It's no accident that most planned parenthood offices are in poor neighborhoods. All this crap like eugenics, the Tuskegeeghee (sp?) experiment euthanasia were thought up by early 20th century progressives. Eventually they were adopted and taken to extremes by European socialists. The early founders of planned parenthood were complete racists
8 posted on 07/09/2009 6:46:53 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: 51773photo

Margerat Sanger (founder of “Planned Parenthood”) said the same thing.


9 posted on 07/09/2009 6:48:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: massgopguy

“Without choice a woman can never be a person of means...”

I think that puts things in a nutshell don’t you think?

What happened to adoption...? I truly believe that a woman who opts to adopt out her baby should be compensated, e.g. a trust fund for education, money to compensate her while she recovers. I mean Americans spend tens of thousands of dollars to women in Katzestan etc for their babies, why not the same for a young girl who is pregnant but opts not to abort?


10 posted on 07/09/2009 6:48:22 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: 2banana; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; Kolokotronis

Who says that blacks are the only populations that they don’t want to have too many of?

If abortion stats mean anything, they say to me that an entire class of people has been targeted. She says “we”. Who could is this “we” be except a group that she sees overseeing the peoples of the nation (world?).

The OverLords probably find middle class genius to be really burdensome. As with Pharaoh of old, you get rid of the firstborn...those overachievers of parents’ youth. The first conceived are generally born to parents when those parents are less established, less secure. Tell them this lie: “This will ruin your life, saddle you with a child, make it impossible to advance.”

Make no mistake, this is a satanic comment.


11 posted on 07/09/2009 6:49:25 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That would make this “abortion rights” movement a liberal-orchestrated front operation for a genocidal campaign against poor unborn minority children...

wouldn’t it


12 posted on 07/09/2009 6:49:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Homer1

Ginsburg is a she. :) Other than that one quibble I agree with you.
I think she said it was her assessment, but she realized she was incorrect. She never said if she agreed with her assessment or not.


13 posted on 07/09/2009 6:51:09 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: 51773photo

This is sick stuff.


14 posted on 07/09/2009 6:52:12 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Don't blame me... I voted for PALIN!)
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To: Homer1

I think what SHE was correcting, was her thoughts that Medicaid was to pay for it. Not about HER Population quip.


15 posted on 07/09/2009 6:52:30 AM PDT by 51773photo
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To: xzins
Make no mistake, this is a satanic comment.

And since the MSM is run by Satan himself, I don't think this story is going to pick up any legs.

I am amazed that it was printed by the NY Times. I guess Satan must have been asleep at the wheel.

16 posted on 07/09/2009 6:55:12 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: nikos1121
the complicit social work industry has made it almost impossible for white couples to adopt black, hispanic or biracial children- unless
1)the adopting couple is gay
2) the kids have been through the wringer of abuse, failed parenting, and foster care and have emerged as attachment-disordered damaged souls

Believe it or not, to an adoptive parent, even the orphan institutions of eastern Europe and Asia look like less risk than adopting from American foster care- if you even can get approved (straight whites over 40- good luck) - and if you can be sure the child you grow to love won't be demanded back to be ruined again by the dysfunctional birth family

Ask yourself why someone like Angelina Jolie goes to Ethiopia to adopt instead of LA or Chicago

17 posted on 07/09/2009 6:57:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: P-Marlowe
MSM run by Satan

The power that the MSM has gathered unto itself makes me think exactly that.

18 posted on 07/09/2009 6:59:16 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: kalee; xzins; wagglebee
I think she said it was her assessment, but she realized she was incorrect. She never said if she agreed with her assessment or not.

If you keep reading the article you will see that Ginsburg laments the fact that poor people have to travel to other states sometimes to get abortions because the Government isn't providing them to the poor through Medicaide. She notes that people with money are now the only people who can freely abort their posterity. She wants the Government to provide free abortions at as many locations as possible so that these "undesirables" can thin their population through abortion.

19 posted on 07/09/2009 7:00:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins
"Make no mistake, this is a satanic comment."

Satan hates humans, mostly because God loves us so much. Satan always pushes infant sacrifice and, for that matter, any human sacrifice.

20 posted on 07/09/2009 7:00:35 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Semper Fi)
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To: xzins

In Ephesians 2;2 Satan is called “the prince of the power of the air”.
Could be a ref to TV and Radio?


21 posted on 07/09/2009 7:03:42 AM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 51773photo
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."

Translation: "But now that I realize that Roe has effectively killed off tens of millions of Democrat voters, I'm having second thoughts about it."

22 posted on 07/09/2009 7:11:45 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 51773photo

No, since electromagnetic radiation propagates in a vacuum.


23 posted on 07/09/2009 7:17:38 AM PDT by dadgum (OverjoyedTo Be A Pariah)
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To: dadgum

But has been known, on occasion, to travel through gases as well.


24 posted on 07/09/2009 7:21:50 AM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 2banana

Blacks are about 12% of the population but account for almost 40% of all abortions...

And 50% of the crime. And they owe a great deal of this rousing success to the democrat party!


25 posted on 07/09/2009 7:23:42 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: kalee; P-Marlowe; Homer1
She never said if she agreed with her assessment or not.

She used the pronoun, WE.

26 posted on 07/09/2009 7:31:22 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: 51773photo; P-Marlowe

Never heard that before, but it is worthy of reflection.


27 posted on 07/09/2009 7:32:30 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: silverleaf

“Ask yourself why someone like Angelina Jolie goes to Ethiopia to adopt instead of LA or Chicago.”

I wonder what would happen if we allowed young mothers to basically adopt out their babies to couples for a fee. The negotiated with the higher bidder winning.

I know this sounds terrible in the one sense, but I know of women who do NOT wish to have children, and would abort in a heart beat. Others, many in fact, would have the baby and raise the child in the unwed single parent household or with the grandparents raising them.

Why not compensate the young mother who wishes to not abort the child to adopt the child to a loving family?

Again, I point out that Americans spend tens of thousands of dollars to adopt a baby from Russia, Indonesia etc...


28 posted on 07/09/2009 7:42:00 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Unfortunately being a baby mama is a way of life for many in the American underclass. A lifetime ticket to benefits, even citizenship. A tangible sign some man thought they were attractive enough to mate with. Aa hopeful continuing link to that man... A cuddly object to love and be loved by. Until the child grows into an angry adolescent.

Having adopted in Russia and researched elsewhere, I did NOT note this “needy” or self serving attitude in the birth mothers of Russia Kazakhtstan etc who gave up (or lost by govt action) their children. Hopeless poverty (affecting the entire extended family), alcoholism, and drugs generally accounted for many of the children abandoned there. Also many children up for adoptiuon there are deemed damaged goods, or “imperfect” in any way (racially, physically, mentally, social/ethnic class) and not wanted by a society that has no respect, tolerance or facilties for them.

Americans faced with unwanted pregnancies have so many more options, for better or worse. Compensating them for giving up their children to adoption won’t appeal, imho.


29 posted on 07/09/2009 7:55:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: 51773photo

Not a peep about this at DU. I can only assume silence=consent.


30 posted on 07/09/2009 12:18:23 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: nikos1121

You would end up with people getting pregnant just to make 5-10k. i.e., it wouldn’t resolve the attitude that the child is simply a means of profit or loss, a mere inhuman object.


31 posted on 07/09/2009 12:36:51 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I think you’d see a precipitous drop in abortions and overseas adoptions...

These children who are now raised in dysfunctional homes would be raised by loving parents...or at least two parents...

And to be frank I think it is fair and just that if someone carries a baby esp is she is young and uneducated without other means...why not make money or if not money be given a chance to go to school or receive training for a job...


32 posted on 07/09/2009 1:20:39 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
If you keep reading the article you will see that Ginsburg laments the fact that poor people have to travel to other states sometimes to get abortions because the Government isn't providing them to the poor through Medicaide. She notes that people with money are now the only people who can freely abort their posterity. She wants the Government to provide free abortions at as many locations as possible so that these "undesirables" can thin their population through abortion.

And make no mistake about it, abortion is rooted in eugenics and it has ALWAYS been targeted toward the "undesirables". They believe that abortion should be used by the white upper-middle and upper classes as a matter of convenience so that a woman's education or career doesn't get sidetracked and she can have children later, but for lower-income groups and minorities they believe that abortion should be automatic.

33 posted on 07/09/2009 2:52:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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