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BlackLight Power, Inc. Announces Breakthrough New Energy Source Based on Hydrinos
Black Light Power ^ | August 12, 2009

Posted on 08/13/2009 9:24:39 PM PDT by MetaThought

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To: Nateman

[Sorry for the repost - forgot to proofread - what I meant to say:] I can see where you might think that, Nateman, but you’re looking at it the wrong way. As I see it, Blacklight has simply found a more efficient way to release a larger amount of the tremendous energy naturally stored in the hydrogen atom than from burning it, and it then uses a fraction of that energy to disassociate more hydrogen from water to produce more energy from those atoms and so on. No energy is being put back into the same hydrogen atoms to restore them back to their original ground state once the energy is released. That’s a misconception I also had originally. Once the lower energy hydrogen is produced, being highly reactive, it either combines with itself to form a gas molecules, or combines with other elements to form hydride compounds. It’s really no more “free energy” than when you burn gasoline in your engine and convert that fuel into lower energy byproducts. When you look at it that way, it makes more sense, at least to me anyway.


21 posted on 08/15/2009 1:24:51 AM PDT by TheTopRead
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To: MetaThought; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
...announces that scientists at Rowan University have for the first time independently formulated and tested fuels that on demand generated energy greater than that of combustion at power levels of kilowatts using BLP's proprietary solid-fuel chemistry capable of continuous regeneration... Professor Ramanujachary and Professor Mugweru synthesized from base materials the previously undiscovered form of hydrogen and were able to characterize hydrogen atoms existing in lower-energy states... This represents the first time BLP has taught independent labs the techniques for making hydrinos from scratch.
Thanks MetaThought.

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22 posted on 08/15/2009 7:28:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: TheTopRead
...Once the lower energy hydrogen is produced, being highly reactive....

This is where the logic all brakes down. Lower energy states are not "reactive". They are stable.A car high on a hill will coast downhill quite naturally. Once it reaches it's low energy state at the bottom of the hill it's not going to become "reactive" and roll uphill to the top again!

23 posted on 08/15/2009 9:19:11 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: MetaThought; SunkenCiv
Academics Question The Science Behind BlackLight Power, Inc.
24 posted on 08/15/2009 12:32:40 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

:’)


25 posted on 08/15/2009 1:28:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: MetaThought
Dr. K.V. Ramanujachary, Dr. Amos Mugweru

Nigerian? Just sayin...

26 posted on 08/15/2009 1:49:51 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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27 posted on 08/15/2009 2:19:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: MetaThought
BLP scientists were able to regenerate the fuel by simply applying heat. This breakthrough advances the commercial viability of the BlackLight Process as a new non-polluting energy source that was first announced by BLP in October 2008

Kinda of depends on how you generate the heat, I would think.

28 posted on 08/15/2009 11:01:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: dila813
Perpetual motion machine?

No, they say it takes heat to recharge the thing. That's where the energy comes from.

But, it does sound at lest potentially promising as a storage mechanism, and portable, rechargeable source. Provided it holds more and weighs less than batteries.

Usefulness also would depend on the efficiency of the conversion of the heat to the stored energy.

29 posted on 08/15/2009 11:04:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Everything that I have read says that it isn’t but that it is in the same vein as a perpetual motion machine. Basically it breaks the laws of physics.


30 posted on 08/15/2009 11:53:59 PM PDT by dila813
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To: MetaThought; SunkenCiv

There’s a sucker born every minute.


31 posted on 08/16/2009 1:07:10 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the ping.


32 posted on 08/16/2009 5:03:20 AM PDT by allmost
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To: MetaThought
The actual building of a stable ‘Casimir cavity device’ would be extremely interesting.
33 posted on 08/16/2009 5:08:14 AM PDT by allmost
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To: dila813
My first thought from their description.

But wait. There's more! (energy, that is)

Cheers!

34 posted on 08/16/2009 5:37:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Uh, unless I’m missing something, E=hv would indicate a lower ground frequency = lower energy.

80n nanometers = length --> λ (wavelength)

You are thinking of ν which is frequency...

Cheers!

35 posted on 08/16/2009 5:39:21 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Nateman
Incidentally, since atomic hydrogen has as its ground state, electrons in a 1s configuration (spherically symmetric) the only way I can think of to lower the energy would be to move the electron's probability distribution closer to the nucleus -- which would tend to make it less reactive.

But I wasn't even clear from the article whether they had atomic or molecular hydrogen in mind....

My gut feeling is that this is the chemical equivalent of Microsoft Vista. More genius from the subcontinent.

Cheers!

36 posted on 08/16/2009 5:45:31 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Nateman

That’s a flawed analogy Nateman. Using that same logic, you could also argue that ordinary hydrogen, in what you think is the lowest ground state, cannot share its electron and, thus, combine with other elements to form compounds. But, of course, it can and so too can a hydrogen atom in a lower energy state.


37 posted on 08/19/2009 8:58:44 PM PDT by TheTopRead
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To: TheTopRead
That’s a flawed analogy Nateman.

When hydrogen combines with oxygen the overall energy state becomes lower. That's why it releases heat and why it takes energy to break up the molecule. The stable state , water, is once again the lower energy state.

The only elements where the energy states of individual atoms are chemically at their lowest are the noble gases.(The electron shells are full).This is also why you don't usually find hydrogen all by itself but instead as two hydrogens bonded to each other.

It is this property of incomplete electron shells that makes chemistry possible.

38 posted on 08/19/2009 9:16:58 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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