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The Holy Grail of POTUS Eligibility Law Review Articles (re: Obama, Arthur).
naturalborncitizen ^ | 8/25/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/25/2009 11:56:37 AM PDT by rxsid

The Holy Grail of POTUS Eligibility Law Review Articles:
Mr. Obama and Mr. Arthur… Meet Attorney George Collins

Rarely, when conducting legal research does one find a historical document that is directly on point. But even more rare is to find a document which is directly on point multiple times. But that’s exactly what has happened this week. A historical document which destroys every bogus point being made by Obama POTUS eligibility supporters was recently discovered by a cracker jack team of university students from UCONN. They call themselves UNDEAD REVOLUTION.

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as a lead in to their work, I offer you one of their superb historical finds. It’s an article from The American Law Review dated Sept./Oct. 1884. The American Law Review was a premier legal journal - the brain child of Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes.

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The article I am about to show you was published in The American Law Review, written by George D. Collins, Esq. Attorney Collins was the Secretary of the California Bar Association. His name was recognized nationally for cases in the federal courts and moreso due to his regular publishing of articles via The American Law review.

ARE PERSONS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES IPSO FACTO CITIZENS THEREOF?

The article provides historical opposition for every single point raised by Obama eligibility pundits and destroys all propaganda in its path.

The article is written in a clear and concise manner, easily understood by lawyers and lay persons alike. I will now introduce each relevant issue confronted in this article and then present the article in full for your review.

OBAMA POTUS ELIGIBILITY MYTHS DESTROYED BY MR. GEORGE COLLINS

MYTH #1: Chester Arthur’s British birth was known and accepted by the American people.

This article was written in Summer 1884, while Chester Arthur was still President. Since The American Law Review was such an esteemed legal publication, old Chester must have been somewhat intimidated by the report of Mr. Collins. This is because the article makes perfectly clear that to be a natural born citizen one must have been born to a US citizen father.

Chester’s father William was not naturalized until 1843, 14 years after Chester was born. This meant that Chester Arthur was a British subject at birth and was therefore not eligible to be President as was first reported at this blog back in December 2008.

It has been argued that Chester Arthur’s occupation of the White House set a legal precedent for Obama since both Chester and Barack were born of British fathers. But the public – at the time Chester was running for VP and later when he became POTUS – never knew that Chester Arthur was a British subject since he successfully lied to the public about his parental heritage.

The law review article goes into great detail concerning the issue of who exactly rises to the level of natural born citizen. It discusses law cases and legal precedent in its analysis, but it does not even mention the current President – Chester Arthur – even though Attorney Collins steadfastly denies that a person born on US soil to an alien father could be a natural born citizen.

If Attorney Collins – esteemed lawyer, Secretary of the Bar Association and nationally known legal journalist – had thought his current President at the time this article was published – Chester Arthur – was a British subject at birth, then the article would have required a discussion of that point.

But the article does not mention President Chester Arthur because Chester Arthur managed – through blatant deceit - to cover that issue up. He successfully concealed his British birth from the American people. This law review article is proof of that conclusion.

MYTH #2: Lynch v. Clark ( a New York State case, not federal) is legal precedent for Obama to be considered a natural born citizen.

Despite the fact that state court cases have absolutely no legal weight of authority in federal court, Obama eligibility supporters cite this case often. Attorney Collins tears the decision to shreds and exposes its faulty conclusions.

MYTH #3: Common law states that being born on the soil – Jus Soli – makes one a “natural born subject” and therefore every person born on US soil is a “natural born citizen”.

Attorney Collins takes this on directly and establishes clearly that there is no common law in the United States. He also explains that natural born citizens are in no way, shape or form, the same as natural born subjects.

MYTH #4: Vattell’s definition of a natural born citizen was not considered by the framers.

Attorney Collins discusses Vattell in great detail. And Collins agrees that to be a natural born citizen one must be born on the soil of parents who were themselves citizens. Collins quotes Vattell.

But more important is the fact that Collins makes it clear Vattell’s definition of “natural born citizen” was not actually Vattell’s definition.

This is very important.

The definition of “natural born citizen” was not created by Vattell in his treatise, “Law of Nations.” That treatise simply discussed the established body of law known as “the law of nations”. [Ed. Right. If I'm not mistaken, "law of nations" goes back to the days of the Roman's.] The definition of natural born citizen discussed in Vattell’s treatise was actually the definition established by the body of law known as “law of nations”.

Attorney Collins makes all of this quite clear in the article below. Now please review Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution:

The Congress shall have power…To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the Law of Nations;

The capital letters are not in reference to Vattell’s treatise, but they are in reference to the body of law Vattell wrote about – the actual “law of nations”. And that body of law - according to Attorney Collins as well as Vattell – held that a “natural born citizen” was somebody with connections to the nation for having been born on the soil as well as having been born of citizen parents. In Article 1, Section 8, we therefore have a direct recognition that the framers respected the law of nations.

DOUBLE ALLEGIANCE TO THE NATION

This is what the framers required for the Commander In Chief. Any child of immigrants from any nation could become President – as long as his parents became naturalized US citizens before that child was born on US soil. In their wisdom, the framers sought two generations of US citizenship. This discriminates against no race at all.

To be an American has nothing to do with race. It has to do with being a person cloaked in liberty – free from monarchy, free of repression, free forever.

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If we allow persons born in the US of alien fathers to be President of the US then Kim Jong Il, Osama Bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are all eligible to have their direct offspring become President of the United States and Commander In Chief of our Armed Forces."

The article

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19071886/Are-Persons-Born-Within-the-United-States-Ipso-Facto-Citizens-Thereof-George-D-Collins

More here:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/the-holy-grail-of-potus-eligibility-law-review-articles-mr-obama-and-mr-arthur-meet-attorney-george-collins/


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: arthur; bcrepository; birthers; certifigate; collins; eligibility; obama
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1 posted on 08/25/2009 11:56:38 AM PDT by rxsid
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To: hoosiermama; Red Steel; null and void; LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; MHGinTN; pissant; Amityschild; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/25/2009 11:57:23 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: STARWISE; hoosiermama

PING AND BOOKMARK!


3 posted on 08/25/2009 11:58:28 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: rxsid; Star Traveler

PING WHY EYE!


4 posted on 08/25/2009 12:02:03 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: rxsid

How will this actually change anything?


5 posted on 08/25/2009 12:02:13 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: rxsid

bttt


6 posted on 08/25/2009 12:03:43 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: rxsid

“If we allow persons born in the US of alien fathers to be President of the US then Kim Jong Il, Osama Bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are all eligible to have their direct offspring become President of the United States and Commander In Chief of our Armed Forces.”

The DNC is looking into drafting procedures even as we speak.


7 posted on 08/25/2009 12:05:12 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: stuartcr

As long as MOST of us fail to stand for the rule of law ... nothing.

What will YOU (plural) do?


8 posted on 08/25/2009 12:05:36 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... reality always gets the last vote.)
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To: rxsid

I wonder what laws were signed by President Arthur. Were any states admitted to the Union during his term? Maybe they will try to invalidate that admission . . .

(I’m in my own little world, I know.)


9 posted on 08/25/2009 12:07:06 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: Apple Blossom; theKid51

ping


10 posted on 08/25/2009 12:10:10 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Socialism is not a bad word. It is a bad concept.)
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To: rxsid

bookmark


11 posted on 08/25/2009 12:10:23 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/music/Gloria+Jane)
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To: rxsid

Bookmark


12 posted on 08/25/2009 12:12:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
"The DNC is looking into drafting procedures even as we speak."

Indeed, only...they are attempting to get away with setting the precedent with Barry!

As we know, Arthur didn't set precedent, because the public didn't know he was a British subject at birth, quite unlike Barry of today. Although, both lied to conceal their past in some way.

13 posted on 08/25/2009 12:12:41 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Take that, you usurper!

Most definitely bookmarked.

14 posted on 08/25/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: plsjr

If I knew what could be done, then I would decide.


15 posted on 08/25/2009 12:16:27 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: rxsid
Did Barry write about this topic when he was president of Harvard Law Review?.....oh never mind....
16 posted on 08/25/2009 12:23:09 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: rxsid

BTTT

Doesn’t this also mean that all those “anchor” babies are not anchored at all?

THAT would be a nice outcome of this study and report.

Has someone notified Dr. Orly Taitz about this?


17 posted on 08/25/2009 12:36:50 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (At Thermopylae, 1 Million Persians lost 20 Thousand yet failed to disarm 300 Spartans. Molon Labe!)
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To: cvq3842

Decided to join you in your world... ;o)
You made me curious so I had to check.
No states entered into the Union from 1881 to 1885.
Colorado (#38) was in 1876.
North Dakota (#39) was in 1889.
As for laws, wiki has a decent summary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur


18 posted on 08/25/2009 12:55:13 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: cvq3842

Down with Greenwich Mean Time!
:o)


19 posted on 08/25/2009 12:57:45 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: rxsid; BP2; pissant; David; Dajjal; cripplecreek; LucyT; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; ...
The blogger who describes this law review article as "the Holy Grail of all POTUS eligibility law review articles" exaggerates its significance quite a bit.

The principle asserted by Collins, which essentially considers citizenship at birth to be solely patrilineal (except in the case of an illegitimate child), is archaic, having been superseded several times by successive US statutes. The same holds for Collins' outright dismissal of any notion of dual (or multiple) citizenship at birth; the fact is that American law has since recognized that some persons are categorized as such. And his idea that descendants of Chinese immigrants born in the US can never be citizens at birth was reversed by a SCOTUS decision in the 1890s which granted citizenship to such persons based upon the 14th Amendment.

The specific subject of POTUS eligibility is not even addressed in Collins' article, as it did not seem to be a concern of his, despite the fact that Arthur - the president, coincidentally, at the time the article was written - would seemingly not qualify for the presidency under Collins' doctrine, given what we now know about Arthur's father's British citizenship status at the time of Arthur's birth.

20 posted on 08/25/2009 1:59:33 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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