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Even a Progressive African-American Calls Obama's School Address Creepy
Vocal Minority < Newark Progressive Examiner ^ | 9/2/09 | EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Posted on 09/02/2009 6:50:17 AM PDT by EricTheRed_VocalMinority

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To: OB1kNOb

““Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”—Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

“Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.”—Josef Stalin

“The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother’s care, shall be in state institutions at state expense.”—Karl Marx”

Well, there you have it.


21 posted on 09/02/2009 10:05:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Well, there you have it.
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Yet, conservatives cling to the foolish notion that government schools can be reformed (if only **they** controlled the schools).

STOOOPID CONSERVATIVES! ( Yes, I am shouting!)

1) Any government powerful enough to impose a conservative political, cultural, and religious worldview on the nation's children is powerful enough to impose a communfascist worldview on theirs.

2) And...Conservatives consistently fail to see that just by attending a government school, this act alone teaches a child to be a socialist ( regardless of the worldview of the school!). The moment a child steps one foot in his kindergarten he learns that the government has the police power to take money from his neighbor to pay for a service that his parents want for free.

It is a short step from accepting schooling paid for by his neighbor to accepting other benefits paid through force from his neighbor: retirement benefits, disability, medicine, ICU care, entertainment, transportation, home heating oil, housing, food, clothing,...etc.

3) Communfascism is our nation's **MOST** serious threat! Schools have always been one of the communfascist's most important weapons. Aren't the quotes that you posted clear enough? Yet, conservatives fail year after year to understand the threat that our government schools pose to our very existence as a nation!

4)From their very beginning the goal of those proponents of state compelled government schools was, and continues to be, socialist indoctrination. The goal of the government schools from their inception in the mid 1800s to the beginning of the 1900s was to create a pliable worker for the fascist state!

I am afraid that it is likely too late to save our nation. Homeschooling has not grown fast enough. Conservatives have NOT worked to set up tuition-free conservative schools so that every child in the nation could have access to a conservative education. Conservatives have not worked in any serious way to shut down the government K-12 indoctrination camps.

22 posted on 09/02/2009 10:38:48 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
One more thing:

Too many conservatives do NOT know that state compelled government education really is a relatively recent idea. In my county, for instance, our government school high school is celebrating its 100 year anniversary. Until the beginning of the 1900s ( after my father and mother were born!) state compelled government education was not universally enacted into every state's law!

In my county until the 1950s and 60s there were still plenty of grandparents and parents who **personally** knew the people who broke the sod, hacked out the trees, and built the primitive bridges and roads for the first time in this county. While these people were alive, teaching their values in the home, and staffing the compulsory state school, the damage of having socialist schools was minimized. These people are dead now, and the full force of the damage of socialist government schools is now being seen.

So?....Perhaps our nation's children could survive the socialist lessons taught by attending taxpayer funded schools in the first half of this century. These children still had enough members alive in their families to keep them grounded in our nation's founding principles, but not any longer.

23 posted on 09/02/2009 10:43:59 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Coyote Choir

Those parents will talk to each other about taking a “sick day” for their children.
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You would think parents would get a clue and remove their children permanently!

Honestly,....The communfascist indoctrination is now at a level that it would be better for a child to get **NO** schooling whatsoever than have his child’s mind and SOUL corrupted by this bilge! ( I **seriously** mean it!)

And....Parents have been indoctrinated into believing that they are incapable of educating their own children! Surely they can do a far better job as parents ( and together as neighbors, friends, and relatives) than the government school indoctrinators.

( Yes, I am shouting!)


24 posted on 09/02/2009 10:50:36 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

“So?....Perhaps our nation’s children could survive the socialist lessons taught by attending taxpayer funded schools in the first half of this century. These children still had enough members alive in their families to keep them grounded in our nation’s founding principles, but not any longer. “

Correct. The NEA and the Obotomy left run the show now.


25 posted on 09/02/2009 10:54:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: wintertime

“I am afraid that it is likely too late to save our nation. Homeschooling has not grown fast enough. Conservatives have NOT worked to set up tuition-free conservative schools so that every child in the nation could have access to a conservative education. Conservatives have not worked in any serious way to shut down the government K-12 indoctrination camps. “

I have been posting here for years that Public Enemy # 1
is our public school system. My daughter attended private schools until 12, then home schooled until she entered Stanford at 16 1/2. She is now 26, successful, married, and well adjusted. Anyone who sends their kids to public school is taking a big risk. You could be a great parent, but they have your kids all day.


26 posted on 09/02/2009 11:01:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
You could be a great parent, but they have your kids all day.
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We should disabuse ourselves of the idea that a parent can undo the government indoctrination.

So?...How is a parent supposed to deprogram a child? De-programing is actually far, far, more work that simply homeschooling correctly the first time! They would need to quiz the child every day, read his textbooks, review all literature assigned, and examine all homework.

Then there is the fact that a child is awake for a finite number of hours in a day!

* A child sleeps 9 to 11 hours a day.

* He is in school for 6 or more hours.

* As he grows older he will have after school activities and events.

* Many children have music and dance lessons, and private sports such as soccer.

* He rides the bus for 1 to 2 or more hours a day, and there is even more time waiting at the bus stop.

* He needs time to play freely outside after school.

* In the evening there is homework.

* If adults want time to relax with the Internet and/or TV, then surely a kid would like and need this time as well.

* He is in contact with other government schooled children ( with government values) after school and on weekends.

* And...I surely would not consider the early morning rush to get dress, eat, and get to the school bus “quality” time.

So?....Just exactly when is a parent supposed to undo government school damage? Seems like the government schools have the advantage here.

27 posted on 09/02/2009 11:14:53 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I have been posting here for years that Public Enemy # 1
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I find it appalling the number of conservatives here on Free Republic that believe that:

*Getting rid of the unions would fix government schools.
*Getting rid of the Department of Education would fix government schools.
* That if only conservatives could control the schools and impose their values on captive children by government schools then the schools would be fixed.

UNBELIEVABLE !!!! STOOOOPID CONSERVATIVES!

1) They do not understand that any government powerful enough to impose their values on other people's children is powerful enough to impose godless communfascism on theirs!

2) From the very first day of kindergarten the child learns that the government can force his neighbor to pay for a service his parents want for free! Just by attending government schools the child learns **socialism**! It is a short step from education socialism to believing that the government can force his neighbor to pay for retirement, disability, ICU care, medicines, transportation, entertainment, food, clothing, housing..etc.

Communfascism is our nation's most serious threat! Government schools are their MOST powerful weapon against freedom and conservatives consistently do NOTHING!!!!!!!!

( I am exasperated! And...I am shouting!)

28 posted on 09/02/2009 11:22:03 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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