Posted on 09/21/2009 5:37:18 PM PDT by rxsid
Too true.
We’ll send you messages in pidgin by carrier pigeon...
I don’t think so. After all the mom is the same, presumably. It would be an adoption by Lolo, not a claim of fatherhood. Besides, Fukino says she has Obama’s original birth certificate on file “in accordance with state policies and prcedures”...whatever that means.
I have not spoken to Misstickly, but for those of you who thought she was a troll, yea, she wasn’t and I was embarrassed that this board banned her. She might be a Cougar rooting for Hillary and a Democrat, but she was after the truth. I thought she was on to something with her line of questioning with the state of Hawaii and she was indeed.
To you MissTickly! Terry! RIGHT ON! YOU GO GIRL!
Go MissTickly! She persistently plowed through.
Because you are scum.
In Hawaii, Obama could access all the court records as an adopted adult. Don’t know when that law went into effect.
Maybe tom fife’s story is true and “they” decided he needed his Obama name back.
This was what the poster was talking about here on FR..he was adopted by his step-father and his original birth certificate was sealed.
BULLSPIT!
I am listed as the birth father on my daughter's "official" long form. I didn't even meet her mom until Darling Daughter was three.
That’s possible. But that does not sound like an amendment to the vital records. It sounds like an adoption record, which just adds to the vital records.
Curiouser and curiouser don’tchaknow.
So, her allegiance was to the ‘other’ DNC commie that ran for the President, the one that lost. Gee...I can’t imagine why anyone would have been rude.
They listed you as birth father?? My buddy in grade school was adopted, but they did not change the birth father on his records.
She wasn’t here arguing for Hillary. She was sharing her research with us on trying to get Obama exposed.
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Obama is not loving his polls
Wait until they have admit unemployment hit 10%
They will delay that somehow - then revise the numbers
This is what it means:
1) in Hawaii an AMENDED certificate of Birth has the same legal weight as an original birth certificate generated at the time of a baby’s birth, in a hospital. Hawaiian law is strange yes, but this is true.
2) This would mean, that though Stanley Ann may have originally produced a Kenyan (or moon for all we know) birth certificate in order to register her son’s birth or for the purposes of her divorce from Obama Sr. his amended certificate essentially gave him a birth certificate with the same LEGAL weight as a baby’s that was born in say Queen Kaiser hospital. With the same LEGAL weight, it could be claimed that Obama was a Natural Born Citizen because they had the same LEGAL weight in HAWAII.
3) The same Legal Weight in Hawaii does NOT equal Constitutional Natural Born Status. That is the loophole I am betting Obama used to wiggle through. As long as his records are sealed, and no one can prove it, he can skate. If the full records surface, he’s is TOAST. We know they were Amended, and that in no way is good for OholyO and the man is indeed a traitor.
4) In reality it doesn’t matter where he was Born, His Father is British, and that right there makes him a Dual Citizen CONSTITUTIONALLY and so ineligible for POTUS.
The whole Birth certificate was something of a smokescreen. The meat of the matter is Obama Sr.’s Nationality.
Unless, of course, his Birth certificate was amended to Obama Sr.’s name and Obama really is the son of another man.... That is food for thought... sort of icky really but oh well, it isn’t my skeleton in that closet thank goodness.
Red Pill anyone? How far does this hole go?
She got Banned, pissed me off at the time too.
Another clarifying comment by Leo (calls himself “Ed.”)
Pat Says:
September 21, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Amended records would include if Barrack was adopted by Leo Sottero. His original Birth Certificate would be replaced by an ammended Birth Certificate. That would lead to another set of issues involving adoption and becomming an Indonesian citizen.
[Ed. This was not originally an action to reveal his actual BC and personal vital records info...the original requests were for records pertaining to whether he requested his file for the purpose of amending and whether he did amend... the actual contents of his personal vital records are protected, she wasnt asking to see those. She was asking whether he paid any fees to amend them and whether they had been amended... not the contents of the amendments.
However, I am going to raise the issue that since Fukino made a public statement about his place of birth, then all records viewed by her for the purposes of making that statement are supposed to be made public under 92F-12(15), information required to be made public. Regardless, the other statement she made about him being a natural born citizen involves a whole other can of worms concerning the advice of the Attorney General and it is the AG opinion letter that we are really after and which was denied to TerriK. The statutory and case law indicates that this information MUST be made public. That means we should get an answer as to what definition of nbc Fukino used to make that statement.]
No, it is very UNLIKELY that he was a British Citizen if born in the US as Obama Sr was already married and could not legally marry Ann.
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