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OKUBO CAUGHT AGAIN: Admits Providing False Information Regarding DoH Maintenance Of Divorce Records
Natural Born Citizen ^ | 10-3-09 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 10/03/2009 9:06:47 PM PDT by STARWISE

sabotage

[UPDATE: 10:36 PM EST - Okubo answers KingsKid today (Saturday) - "No records exist" for Barry Soetoro. AND - Office of Health Status Monitoring under maintenance until 6:30 PM (Hawaii time) tonight Saturday 10.03.09 See my comment to this article for details. ]

In an amazing turn of events, the person in charge of communications at the Hawaii Department of Health – Communications Director Janice Okubo – has been forced to admit that part of her Oct 1, 2009 email to “KingsKid” was false.

I reported yesterday that Okubo stated the DoH does not hold divorce records. But later, reader KDSB commented that the Department of Health web site contradicts Okubo’s statement. They do maintain divorce records. From the DoH web site:

About Vital Records

Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health.

KingsKid had previously issued the following question to Okubo:

Is the “bride and groom” index data that you provided part of the President’s index file, or is it from Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack H. Obama, Sr index files? Also, was the divorce of SAD and BOH, Sr. part of the 338-18(d) index data?

Okubo’s response: From: Okubo, Janice S. To: [KingsKid - real name redacted] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: RE: Clarificatio, Please

Aloha..,

I am sorry; I may have misunderstood your request. The “bride” and “groom” index data is from Stanley Ann Dunahm [sic] and Barack Hussein Obama index files.

The Department of Health does not hold divorce records, they are with the Department of Judiciary.

Janice Okubo Communications Office Hawaii State Department of Health

That was a blatant lie. They do – in fact – hold divorce records. They do – in fact – hold the divorce records for both Stanley Ann Dunham divorces. It’s absurd to even consider Okubo wasn’t aware that the DoH held those infamous records.

When called to task by KingsKid, Okubo provided an answer which is not credible:

From: Okubo, Janice S. To: [KingsKid-real name redacted] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 6:55PM Subject: RE: Clarification, Please

Our Office does not maintain an index for divorce records. We only have divorce records from the courts between July 1951 to December 2002. All other divorce records are kept in the court where the divorce took place. My apologies for the misinformation on the website, our staff will work on updating those pages.

Janice Okubo Communications Office Hawaii State Department of Health

This is insanity.

Okubo’s original response to the divorce question didn’t mention “an index for divorce records”. It simply stated, “The Department of Health does not hold divorce records, they are with the Department of Judiciary.”

How does the Communications Director overlook 51 years of divorce records on file with her office?

This is more Seussian hooplah. The DoH maintains records of divorce and all vital events. Information from those records is [should be] maintained as index data per registrant. Her Seussian hooplah response was that they do not maintain “an index for divorce records“. She’s essentially telling you her answer depends on what the meaning of index is.

She may call the directory of divorce records whatever she likes in her native tongue of Seussian hooplah, but divorce records maintained by the DoH must be listed in the index file for each registrant. The only misinformation here are the words birthed from her bent keyboard.

And when exposed, Okubo inexplicably blamed the error on the DoH web site. But it’s Okubo who is directly responsible for the misinformation. The DoH web site accurately states that the DoH maintains divorce records. The web site makes clear that a divorce is a vital event.

Haw. Rev. Stat. 338-18(d) commands the DoH to make the following information available to the public:

(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.

I have news for the people running this psyop: it’s over. And things don’t usually end well for the guppies. Your masters will feed you to the giant before they ever take the fall. This is not Tokyo Rose psychobabble. Giant is awake. Giant will prevail. It’s just a matter of time.

by Leo C. Donofrio, Citizen Attorney http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; doh; donofrio; dunham; hawaii; obama; obamatruthfile; okubo; unraveling; vitalrecordsindex
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1 posted on 10/03/2009 9:06:48 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING!


2 posted on 10/03/2009 9:07:18 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

BTTT


3 posted on 10/03/2009 9:08:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: All

At the end of the Natural Born Citizen article above:

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ATTENTION: New comment policy – only comments which rock my world will be printed. If you have something important to add – whether for or against the material – feel free to submit your comment.

Simple comments of support will not be printed, neither will flames. The chances of your comment being printed are very slim. The moderation takes too much of my time. But sometimes the comments add very important context, facts or questions. That is why I am keeping them open. I just want readers to know most comments will not be printed.


4 posted on 10/03/2009 9:10:30 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Rut Ro....


5 posted on 10/03/2009 9:10:40 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: STARWISE

There was a time when all this coulda been chalked up to bureaucratic incompetency.

But that’s fading fast.... it’s almost to the level of being conspiratorial now!

When was the last time anybody was hanged for treason? Anyone know?


6 posted on 10/03/2009 9:12:27 PM PDT by djf (I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
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To: djf
When was the last time anybody was hanged for treason? Anyone know?

Been a long time. We're probably going to have to buy some new rope, but what the hell, rope ain't that expensive.

7 posted on 10/03/2009 9:17:58 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: STARWISE; All

Hawaii must be unique in the way it maintains certain records. I used to work at the Oklahoma DOH as did my wife...she actually worked in the Vital Records department there. In Oklahoma only birth and death records are maintained by the Vital Records Division of the State Department of Health.

Marraige and divorce records are kept by the various counties in Oklahoma. Each county has its own courts where civil matters like this are handled and the court proceedings maintained. I guess Hawaii isn’t big enough to have “County” courts.

Does anyone know of another state where Marraige and Divorce records are kept by the State Dept. of Health?

I don’t doubt Hawaii’s uniqueness, I just find it odd. Do the other Islands, besides Oahu, have courts to do civil matters like marraige and divorce?


8 posted on 10/03/2009 9:22:41 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’m sorry I don’t know. HI seems to have
contradicted its own website information.
Oh well .. that’s probably already changed.


9 posted on 10/03/2009 9:24:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Could Okubo and Obama be members of the same Kenyan tribe?


10 posted on 10/03/2009 9:31:26 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: djf

Time for new ROPE? on a bumper sticker? Are you freaking kidding me? Think about it.


12 posted on 10/03/2009 9:37:56 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: STARWISE

How about adding some context here?

Do the divorce records of the parents of Obama contain info about their children that could be used in the NBC challenge?


13 posted on 10/03/2009 9:38:29 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: STARWISE
I'm looking at the HI DoH Web site.

Is this new language?

https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi

DISCLAIMER

The information and transactions completed on this web site are provided by the State of Hawaii Department of Health (DOH) as a public service. No posted information is intended to constitute legal or professional advice. The information available through this web site is NOT official information unless otherwise noted.

This web site is intended for use by the public for the sole purpose of ordering vital records from the DOH. The information contained in this web site DOES NOT disclose any information found within the official vital records in the custody of the DOH.

All information provided by the DOH through this web site is provided on an "as is" basis and DOH makes no warranties, express or implied, including Warranty of Merchantability and Fitness for a Particular Purpose, and makes no guarantees as to the accuracy of the information accessed, the timeliness of the delivery of the transactions, delivery to the correct party, preservation of privacy and security of users. No one shall be entitled to claim detrimental reliance on any views or information, whether provided by or accessed through this web site, or to claim any duty on the part of DOH to update posted information or to protect the interests of those accessing this web site. In no event shall the DOH, its divisions, employees or other parties be liable for damages of any nature whatsoever, arising from the use of or inability to use this website. The DOH uses reasonable efforts to provide accurate, complete and current information on this website; it does not, however, represent the information to be so. By accessing this web site, the user agrees that the DOH, its divisions, employees and other parties involved in creating, maintaining, or delivering the information contained therein shall be immune from any liability and damages arising from inaccuracies or incompleteness in the data provided.

I agree and wish to proceed __ I don't agree and wish to exit __

14 posted on 10/03/2009 9:40:19 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I’ll bet it is ... I’d send it to Donofrio
and Miss Tickly. So, now they’re using
legalese to quash inquiry.


15 posted on 10/03/2009 9:50:00 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Hildy

You’re right, I was thinking the treason thing, not the lynching thing.

Might upset a few of the locals, eh?


16 posted on 10/03/2009 9:55:14 PM PDT by djf (I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
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To: djf
Not only is rope not politically correct anymore, neither is treason.
Treason started to bud out pretty good with Clinton and now it's in full bloom with Zero.
17 posted on 10/03/2009 10:08:38 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: STARWISE

Mark for later reading


18 posted on 10/03/2009 10:56:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: SaraJohnson

bump


19 posted on 10/03/2009 11:23:48 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: STARWISE; MissTickly; Red Steel; LucyT; BP2; MHGinTN; pissant; hoosiermama; null and void; ...
An interesting exchange...

"itooktheredpill Says:
October 4, 2009 at 1:00 AM

Leo,

How about using the research team from UCONN – UNDEAD REVOLUTION – to invoke [§338-18] (g) (5):

An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.
[Ed. The full provision reads:

(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:

An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

That's good, bro... what are you drinking tonight? You're on fire, dude. This one is very plausible. Hey UNDEAD REVOLUTION - get endorsed as a Constitutional club at UCONN and get us the verification. This is very doable. Not just for them. Isn't this blog a social and educational organization? Yeah, I like this provision for getting an official verification... doesn't get us an official COLB - but we'll start with an official "verification". And that's a good place to start. I'll probably blog on this. I can think of a few organizations who should be able to procure an official verification. I don't see why this blog wouldn't be eligible. It's non-partisan. It's educational. I'm going to try this.]

Nice job, Neo. 338-18(g)(5) – yes. I like it.]"

Then this..

"naturalborncitizen Says:
October 4, 2009 at 1:34 AM

This comment by “itookthredpill” officially rocked my world…."

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/okubo-caught-again-admits-providing-false-information-regarding-doh-maintenance-of-divorce-records/#comment-13310

20 posted on 10/04/2009 1:08:57 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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