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NSA to store yottabytes of surveillance data in Utah megarepository
Crunchgear ^ | November 1. 2009 | by Devin Coldewey

Posted on 11/01/2009 7:06:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

There’s an interesting article in the current New York Review of books (predictably, a book review) detailing the history of the National Security Agency, that shadowy power-behind-the-power to which we surrender much of our privacy. That in itself is interesting, but I found the introduction a bit shocking: the NSA is constructing a datacenter in the Utah desert that they project will be storing yottabytes of surveillance data. And what is a yottabyte? I’m glad you asked.

There are a thousand gigabytes in a terabyte, a thousand terabytes in a petabyte, a thousand petabytes in an exabyte, a thousand exabytes in a zettabyte, and a thousand zettabytes in a yottabyte. In other words, a yottabyte is 1,000,000,000,000,000GB. Are you paranoid yet?

The more salient question is, of course, what are they storing that, by some estimates, is going take up thousands of times more space than all the world’s known computers combined? Don’t think they’re going to say; they didn’t grow to their current level of shadowy omniscience by disclosing things like that to the public. However, speculation isn’t too hard on this topic. Now more than ever, surveillance is a data game. What with millions of phones being tapped and all data duplicated, constant recording of all radio traffic, 24-hour high definition video surveillance by satellite, there’s terabytes at least of data coming in every day. And who knows when you’ll have to sift through August 2007’s overhead footage of Baghdad for heat signatures in order to confirm some other intelligence?

The article mentions that the NSA’s equivalent in the UK, the Government Communications Headquarters, asked that all telecoms providers store and hand over a huge amount of customer data for an entire year. They refused, citing “grave misgivings” and noting that at any rate the level of data collection expected was “impossible in principle.” Tut tut! Those Brits lacked the American can-do spirit. Thus it was that AT&T and other telecoms instantly complied with US mandates following September 11. The extent of the government’s meddling with switches, routers, antennas, and so on may never be fully known, but I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone reading this article isn’t on the record somewhere. Storage capacity of this magnitude implies a truly unprecedented amount of subjects for monitoring.

There is talk of the NSA shutting down altogether or being rolled into another agency, but I suspect that the “too big to fail” idea, as well as the “our safety is worth any price” dogma, will prevent that eventuality. It’s more reasonable to ask when or if its expansion will cease being sustainable. These datacenters, and the yottabytes they will hold, are extremely expensive as well as practically having bulls-eyes painted on them to the enemy (whoever he is) — though at under $10bn the NSA’s budget is a footnote compared to other programs and agencies. So is the increasingly (to use a semi-word that is only rarely usable) tentacular NSA a necessary evil of the digital age, or a cancerous money sink born from the colossal intelligence competition of the Cold War?

The answer will only be visible in retrospect years from now, perhaps when a sequel to the book being reviewed (The Secret Sentry: The Untold History of the National Security Agency, by Matthew M. Aid) is released covering the heavily-redacted records of the early 2000s. In the meantime, it’s probably best to assume that the walls have ears.


TOPICS: Government; Reference
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; internetsnooping; napl; nsa; privacyrights
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To: Jet Jaguar
And what is a yottabyte?

Difficult to say, it is.

One thousand gigabytes in a terabyte there are, terabytes in a petabyte a thousand, petabytes in an exabyte a thousand, exabytes in a zettabyte a thousand, and zettabytes in a yottabyte a thousand there are.


21 posted on 11/01/2009 9:20:03 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

22 posted on 11/02/2009 5:11:33 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"yottabytes"

That's a lotta bytes (said in Groucho Marx voice)

23 posted on 11/02/2009 5:15:46 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"Yoda bites not, young Jedi."


24 posted on 11/02/2009 5:18:20 AM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: gaijin

Yottadollar bills are already being printed in Zimbabwe.


25 posted on 11/02/2009 5:24:25 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: TLI
And what is a yottabyte?

Something begging for some serious worms.
26 posted on 11/02/2009 5:33:13 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Jet Jaguar

I feel sorry for the poor SOB who has to read all that.


27 posted on 11/02/2009 5:34:18 AM PST by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: OneWingedShark
Sorry, no. While RAM storage uses 1024 (2^10) as its multiplier, disk storage has always used 1000 (10^3). So a GB really is 1000MB of disk space, not 1024MB as would be the case for RAM.

To make things even more confusing there are now standard prefixes to make the distinction. See the Wikipedia entry for Yottabyte for details.

28 posted on 11/02/2009 5:43:34 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“Wonder how much of it will be porn :-)”

Enough to distract them from you, and perhaps slings and arrows.


29 posted on 11/02/2009 5:58:16 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I did ping you at #29, but your name disappeared. Spooky!


30 posted on 11/02/2009 8:27:53 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Jet Jaguar

...and the left went loony when Cheney listened to a phone call.


31 posted on 11/02/2009 8:34:53 AM PST by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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At least 90% of it will be cute cat pix, 419 scam emails, and pr0n.


32 posted on 11/02/2009 8:52:38 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I wonder how long it will be before Microsoft needs more. Also can you imagine the time it would take to back that sucker up? (Carbonite out of the question?)

What is next? One wiki has Bronto, and Geo after Yotta, and one site says numbers larger then that have not been defined yet. Heck, I thought this 2Tb usb drive on my desk was more then I would ever need.

33 posted on 11/02/2009 9:00:55 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
1,000,000,000,000,000GB

That's a lot of pr0n.
34 posted on 11/02/2009 9:03:15 AM PST by BJClinton (Any "healthcare reform" without tort reform is a fraud.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

And Channer jokes..


35 posted on 11/02/2009 9:05:23 AM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Every storage device in the world combined isn’t even storing one zettabyte yet.


36 posted on 11/02/2009 9:48:51 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Darksheare

DESU!


37 posted on 11/02/2009 10:11:54 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: xjcsa

Another perspective: That’s 500,000,000,000 2-terabyte hard drives, costing $90 trilllion retail, and weighing 407,000,000 tons.


38 posted on 11/02/2009 10:22:57 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Slings and Arrows

Bowman: “My God, It’s full of Lolcats!”


39 posted on 11/02/2009 10:47:35 AM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Darksheare

Has anyone consulted the Sandwich Chef?


40 posted on 11/02/2009 10:54:11 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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