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Karl Rove: The GOP Is Moving Into the Suburbs
WSJ/The Lid ^ | 11/4/09 | The Lid

Posted on 11/04/2009 6:54:59 PM PST by Shellybenoit

Yesterday's election showed many cracks developing in the alliance that put the Democrats into power just one year ago. Independent voters were the most obvious but there were others, while still voting democratic young and urban voters were not motivated to come out for Obama's candidates, especially in New Jersey the state where the POTUS invested the most time and political capital.

The other group shifting away from the Obama coalition is suburbia. Already facing growing property taxes, they see a federal government with no inclination to curb spending and the higher taxes the deficits will bring. According to Karl Rove Tuesday's results were the first sign that voters are revolting against runaway spending and government expansion. But Democrat likely ain't seen nothin' yet if they try to ram through health-care reform. There is nothing in the House bill that would do anything to reverse the voter trend we saw this week.

If the democrats insist on forcing Obamacare down our throats with all the associated taxes and higher costs, the Republican party will be moving into their new digs in the suburbs.

(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: election; nj2009; obamacare; suburbs; swingvote; taxes; va2009

1 posted on 11/04/2009 6:54:59 PM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

It was the Rats’ attempts to shove socialism down our throats in one big hunk that FINALLY made the people wake up and pay attention to what they are doing in Washington.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 7:18:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Shellybenoit

Doesn’t Karl know that it’s called “white flight”? All of us out here in the sticks are racists. (sarcasm)


3 posted on 11/04/2009 7:28:03 PM PST by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians...including republicans.)
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To: Shellybenoit

Congratulations, you got a huge hat tip from Rush today, how is that feeling?
yidwithlid must of been humming!


4 posted on 11/04/2009 7:43:22 PM PST by mojo114
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To: Terry Mross

The GOP could consolidate its suburban gains if it defines itself as pro-freedom and anti-socialist. We lose the suburbs if we start preaching about how folks should live their lives. Leave the preaching and the savings of souls to the churches.


5 posted on 11/04/2009 7:45:25 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Shellybenoit
Hey Karl we out here in fly over country were already getting taken to the proverbial cleaners before BamaKennedy ever signed one bill.

Now Karl it is all well and good to point out the complete bondage that the Bamamites are in the process of legislating but at least they are not calling it compassion. They are using the word ‘sacrifice’.

6 posted on 11/04/2009 7:49:57 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Shellybenoit

The first boomers were born in 1946- and they’re at the age where people become more conservative...


7 posted on 11/04/2009 7:52:33 PM PST by GOPJ (CNN analysts would have called it a "referendum on Obama" IF dems had won...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I would bet that alot of those suburbanites that voted for Hopey Changey are now having buyers remorse.


8 posted on 11/04/2009 8:00:36 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Clemenza

I’m not sure entirely how you propose that to be done. The problem today, unlike, say, 40+ years ago, it’s hard to separate morality from the political issues. That’s why we’re having to go to the length of referendums on overturning gay marriage, which was unimaginable 20 years ago.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 8:05:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Yep. Idiots who voted for Obama “because they wanted to be part of something big” are now realizing that they had no idea who they were voting for.


10 posted on 11/04/2009 8:13:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Social issues should be handled among the populace, and, on a political level, should strictly be local, as the religious demographics are vastly dissimilar in the United States.


11 posted on 11/04/2009 8:18:48 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, that feeling sold to them by the MSM to be part of something historical, coupled with a helping of white guilt, had these people voting for him. Now its a year later and things have gotten much worse for them.


12 posted on 11/04/2009 8:21:46 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Clemenza

I’m not trying to hammer you here, but again, I don’t see how you separate them. It’s tied to so many issues coming out of Congress, for example. I would often say a lot of local communities (were they to enact social Conservative agendas) are often willfully prevented from doing so by Congress, leftist activist judges, etc. You see what I’m getting at ?


13 posted on 11/04/2009 8:22:03 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clemenza

No. The religious views of Utah should be imposed on suburban New Jersey. That’s a winning election formula.


14 posted on 11/04/2009 8:33:00 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

What may be happening is that “moderate” voters are realizing that Roe v. Wade, etc, is not going to change on a national level while Obama and Pelosi are running DC. So then they are free to vote their pocketbooks in their state races.

Christie is pro-life, but the abortion issue just didn’t seem to resonate like it usually does for the Democrats in NJ.


15 posted on 11/04/2009 8:50:20 PM PST by nj26 (Say NO to Socialism! Government is NOT the Answer.)
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To: Shellybenoit

What do conservatives really need to do, in order to actually succeed in winning elections throughout the majority of U.S. cities?


16 posted on 11/04/2009 9:06:52 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Clemenza
The GOP could consolidate its suburban gains if it defines itself as pro-freedom and anti-socialist. We lose the suburbs if we start preaching about how folks should live their lives. Leave the preaching and the savings of souls to the churches.

To counter your claim, I shall paraphrase Mark Steyn: You can’t be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. Eventually, the weakness of your social liberalism will make you spend and thus waste taxpayer money.

17 posted on 11/04/2009 9:14:46 PM PST by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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To: Vision Thing; fieldmarshaldj
To counter your claim, I shall paraphrase Mark Steyn: You can’t be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. Eventually, the weakness of your social liberalism will make you spend and thus waste taxpayer money.

Agreed, and let me clarify: I did NOT mean that Republicans should embrace global warming, infanticide, and interspecies marriage. What I meant is, if the folks elected you (or want to elect you) to reduce property taxes and take on the public employee unions, you don't at the same time emphasize prayer in schools and "the will of God", especially outside of rural areas. This is cancer at a national level, and is akin to Democrats screaming about reparations and Harvey Milk Day (OK they do this, but they can get away with it).

The best strategy is this: speak loudly on the issues that resonate most with a wide spectrum of the electorate that are within the conservative canon, while, at the same time, quietly protecting a conservative social agenda via court and political appointments. Another thing that conservatives MUST learn to do is talk about issues like abortion in non-religious terms. Germany is a largely secular country, but has some of the strictest abortion laws outside of the Islamic world, largely due to the fact that many secular Germans find abortion abhorrent for reason's other than "God's will."

Remember, if the electorate truly wanted political leaders who were moralistic sermomnizers, we would be speaking of former President Robertson and current President Huckabee

18 posted on 11/05/2009 6:38:18 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza

{if the electorate truly wanted political leaders who were moralistic sermomnizers, we would be speaking of....current President Huckabee}

Currently Huckabee is the GOP front runner for 2012. He has better overall approval ratings than Romney and Palin. Plus he does poll best against Obama. Despite being a Baptist pastor, for whatever reason Huckabee doesn’t agonize secular suburbanites the way Newt and Palin do.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 8:37:40 PM PST by yongin
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