Skip to comments.Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?
Posted on 11/10/2009 8:23:25 AM PST by mkboyce
This really takes the cake:
What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, that in this situation, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so, forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there's a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are -- are burdened by because of the fact that people don't have health insurance, you know, there's nothing wrong with a penalty. - Obama
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This so-called smart man, a supposed Constitutional scholar, uses the simpletons analogy that the requirement for auto-insurance is the same as government requiring everyone to purchase health insurance. Last I checked, no human being was ever born with a motorized vehicle attached to his backside. Also, last I checked, Americans are born with certain inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
How does making it a requirement to purchase something as a requisite to life, in order to be free from penalization (liberty), in any way, shape or form in-line with truths of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America?
Barack Hussein Obama, please, for the good of the order RESIGN NOW!
Isn't that their entire plan????????
It’s a bunch of smooth talking evil.
He’s going to cost you more, deny you care, and he talks about putting you in jail because after all, he’s done so much for you.
Plus, weren’t we taught that ‘driving is a privilege not a right’?? Therefore, you ELECT to get a car and choose to drive, and then you need to get insurance. Unless you are here illegally. Then you ‘need’ to, but really, citizens will cover for you. And YOU will pay no penalties, altho citizens will.
Best to know ALL the rules — for THEE but not for me.
I would like to see minimum security jails built, then, to house scofflaws. Because I, for one, would prefer to go to jail than be forced to knuckle under to the Black Queen and the Little Emperor.
Obama’s argument doesn’t wash.
The government (state of CA) mandates me to have auto insurance to protect OTHER drivers, vehicles and property due to accidents caused by ME. That’s why I’m required to carry liability insurance but collision (coverage for my vehicle damage caused by me) is optional.
If I don’t have health insurance, I’m not hurting anyone else if I get sick.
The key word here is “ability.”
That is how the middle class will be scr*wed.
I'm looking forward to meeting some of you while I'm in jail...
“If I dont have health insurance, Im not hurting anyone else if I get sick.”
Uh, yes you are. You are impacting the health system if you don’t have the ability to pay. That is in part why the system is so out of balance now, too many who can’t pay are still being treated by the system.
Good point. By Obama’s logic people that do not own cars should be required to purchase comprehensive auto insurance in order to spread the risk and lower costs.
Of course, when I make this point to idiot liberals who try to make the auto-insurance comparison, they roll their eyes.
It is really a new tax, which is the only way the government can justify taking the money, but they want to avoid calling it a tax, hoping the public will be too confused to notice.
They are not going to cover that many more people with this system. However, this gives the government a stake in everyone’s health.
It’s a control power grab over people’s life.
This asshat 'Constitutional scholar' doesn't even know about that little thing called a Bill of Attainder which is right in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. and is along with ex post facto laws, UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Bill of AttainderAnd since you, oops 'we', would be automatically found guilty, and face fine and prison without trial, for not buying Insurance, that is a Bill of Attainder.
Definition: A legislative act that singles out an individual or group for punishment without a trial.
"The Bill of Attainder Clause was intended not as a narrow, technical (and therefore soon to be outmoded) prohibition, but rather as an implementation of the separation of powers, a general safeguard against legislative exercise of the judicial function or more simply - trial by legislature."
"Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligations of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation. ... The sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils. They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more-industrious and less-informed part of the community." James Madison, Federalist Number 44, 1788.
This 'thing' also violates about six amendments and is utterly and completely UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Well, you get health care in jail. So if universal health care is the goal, then either you pay for it or you get it forced upon you! Unless of course, you are in a favored class that gets a “Get our of Jail Free Card” and get fully subsidized without incarceration.
I think it’s wise for everyone to have catastrophic health insurance to cover the most serious medical problems. But the way insurance is set up now, where every little sniffle and minor ache is paid for, this is what drives the costs up.
If everyone had to pay out of their own pocket for minor things like office visits etc. doctors would charge far less. If only things like heart surgery, etc. were covered, the overall cost of health care would drop dramatically.
Big Brother has been confiscating money from those who actually earn it and giving it to those who don’t for decades. And now it’s suddenly an UNFAIR BURDEN on the achievers! Nope. No hypocrisy on the left.
Whether it would reduce costs much, I don’t know, but it would certainly make health consumers more cost conscious.
Last I checked, no human being was ever born with a motorized vehicle attached to his backside.
Actually the analogy is much weaker than you suggest. The auto insurance one is forced to get is for doing damage to someone else's person or property with your car. I'm not aware of any state the requires a person to get insurance to cover himself or his own property. If one of my trees falls on my car I am not required to have insurance to pay for the repairs. If that same tree falls on me, Obama wants me to be covered by an insurance policy that he forced me to buy. (Force is such a nice word.)
Commie Care is the goberment forcing me to by a product I don't necessarily want against my will.
The sentiment of those posting about this on the ABC site is 100% outrage. It reads like a FreeRepublic post. I find that encouraging. WAKE UP people!
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