Posted on 12/08/2009 11:39:08 PM PST by Praxeologue
vanity
That's probably because they're not as "honest, responsible, and intelligent" as you think they are. They are obviously "misinformed" and probably incompetent as well, if indeed they are "advocates" of the "global warming" fraud as you say they are. It's the age of the internet - - the information they need to become informed about something they "advocate" is all over the place. You could direct them here, for example.
FRegards,
LH
Have you guys seen the “falling polar bears” ad yet?
Glenn Beck ran it and I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself.
Hubby looked at me like I’d lost my mind and had to thump me on the back when I started to choke from laughing so hard.
Funniest “liberals sobbing into their aprons” crapaganda ad ever.
[woulda been even better if they’d been shrieking on the way down]
no volcanos under the south pole
Me no see.
You got link?
I visited this site and registered. Under global warming, 2009 Sea Ice, there is a useful discussion. I went back months and did not find images. There are graphs, however, particularly from Japan's JAXA re the Arctic only. The data, if anything, appears to support GW. They also post lots of data from the GW camp with comments such as "it's pre-Copenhagen spin".
If this is the best we can do, a ham radio site, we're going to lose. The GW crowd has us out-gunned. We should have well-prepared text, charts, graphs and images, updated on a regular basis. Maybe the EPA finding will coalesce a group of affected parties to pull this information together. Please tell me there is more than this out there.
Your friends should have to make the connection, not you. Instead use the same graphics to show the dangers of ill portioned hamburger ketchup. If the ice caps expand...it was ketchup. If they shrink...its ketchup. If they stay the same...its due to ketchup. All natural disasters in modern times...due to ketchup. After all you have PROOF...since your friends can't deny that there were natural disasters. Show them any old pictures of destruction and human suffering due to disasters. Demand to know what they are going to do about ketchup portions in their own lives. If they balk, tell them the debate is over, and any "expert" who disagrees is in league with "Big Ketchup" (i.e. John Kerry).
There are many volcanoes in Antarctica.
You just want to squabble then.
In order for ice to melt it must be warmed above its freezing point. Ice cannot melt in Antarctica since it is virtually always below freezing even in the Summer. Ice can however be lost via sublimation, which is caused directly from the sun. The ice pack in the Arctic is different in that it is mostly sea ice and can be affected by warmer localized ocean currents. These local warmer ocean currents do not indicate that the entire earth’s oceans are warming. In fact sensors indicate that the oceans as a whole have not warmed at all this entire dcade.
It’s an experiment.
Does that help you?
And there are stars in the sky and the moon orbits the earth.
Have any other useless information to this thread that you like to Troll with?
(Some of the satellite data from around the end of 2008 and and through the beginning of 2009 unfortunately are considered not useful due to problems with a satellite's sensing unit; you can look at Satellite sensor errors cause data outage for a long discussion of the problems.)
For you review.
You may want to repost your topic with this.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/recent365.anom.region.9.html
Most of my work is posted at nationalforestlawblog.com Oct. Newsletter.
The present situation is sunspots. There are few and far between. We are in a solar minimum which means.
Fewer and weaker hurricanes and shorter hurricane seasons
Appears to be an increase in tornados and stronger longer lasting Tornados
Increased glacier activity; is not the Arctic a floating glacier
Severe winters, severe cold
Crop damage and lower yields
Drop in Ozone production which needs hot summers
Long term drought
By the way, there is a documentary out there that shows during post WWII that a lake in Antarctica had water at 40 degrees due to an underground volcanic activity.
In all my studies I have not come across volcanic activity under the Arctic.
As long as I can still use my hands.
I have been using http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm
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