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Obama/Gates: We Recognize the Taliban
Logan's Warning ^ | January 22nd, 2010 | Christopher Logan

Posted on 01/22/2010 2:10:38 PM PST by Islaminaction

Just the other day the Pentagon erased the Islamic factor from the Fort Hood shooting. This afternoon we have Obama and Co. recognizing the enemy and they are accepting them into the political landscape of Afghanistan. Those that are supposed to be leading us, are not leading us in the right direction. I am sure that this will workout for the best….

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: afganistan; gates; islam; obama
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1 posted on 01/22/2010 2:10:40 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Nachum; 444Flyer; Islaminaction; GeronL; MestaMachine; Mr Inviso; Neoliberalnot; Hodar; ...

Islamic expansionism/threat ping list. If anyone wants on or off, please email me. Thanks!


2 posted on 01/22/2010 2:11:27 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction
Obama/Gates: We Recognize the Taliban


3 posted on 01/22/2010 2:15:01 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Islaminaction

nightmare


4 posted on 01/22/2010 2:15:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Islaminaction

pics of executions in stadium?


5 posted on 01/22/2010 2:17:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Islaminaction

"I better get myself capured before that infidel harlot Palin takes over. With Obama I get TV coverage and a comfortable cell, with a infidel lawyer to explain infidel laws. If I get picked up under the infidel harlot Palin, I will be ballast in the rocket for the next Mars probe. No one will hear from me again."
6 posted on 01/22/2010 2:18:47 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Islaminaction

There is nothing called the ‘moderate Taliban’

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/opinion/mj-akbar/the-siege-within/There-is-nothing-called-the-moderate-Taliban/articleshow/4390292.cms

The Times of India

If necessity is the mother of invention then politics is often the father. Barack Obama has invented a phrase that did not exist on January 20, the day he became president. Anxious to win a war through the treasury rather than the Pentagon, he has discovered something called the “moderate Taliban” in Afghanistan. Joe Biden, his vice president, has found the mathematical coordinates of this oxymoron: only 5% of the Taliban are “extremists”.

Welcome to Obama’s first big mistake.

The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan is not simply against some bearded men and beardless boys who have been turned into suicide missionaries. The critical conflict is against the ideology of a chauvinistic theocracy that seeks to remould the Muslim world into a regressive region from which it can assault every aspect of modernity, whether that be in political space or the social sphere.

Washington has a single dimension definition of “moderate”: anyone who stops an active, immediate war against the US is a “moderate”. Let me introduce him to a couple of “moderate Taliban”. They are now world famous, having been on every national and international news channel these past few days, stars of a video clip from Swat. Two of them had pinned down a 17-year-old girl called Chand Bibi, while a third, his face shrouded, lashed her with a whip 37 times on suspicion of being seen with a man who was not her father or brother.

Obama should record the screams of Chand Bibi and play them to his daughters as the “moderate” music to which he wants to dance in his Afghan war.

These Taliban are “moderate” by the norms of the Obama Doctrine: they have come to a deal with America through Islamabad. Pakistani troops are not engaged in their medieval haven, nor are American Drones bombing their homes. All that remains, one presumes, is that they are placed on the Pentagon payroll as insurance of their ceasefire.

Perhaps, in their desperate search for moderation, Obama and Islamabad will promote the denial being manipulated into public discourse. The unbearable Swat-lashing video is now described as fake. It would be nice to know the names of the actors who played such a convincing part in the filming of this ‘fake’. Chand Bibi has “denied” any such incident. Sure: but was any doctor sent to check the scars?

Such compromise with ‘moderation’ has also taken place next door, in Afghanistan, under the watchful eye of American ally Hamid Karzai. He has just signed a family law bill which compels Afghan women to take permission from their husbands before going to a doctor, seeking education, or getting a job. The husband has become complete master of the bedroom. Custody of children can only go to fathers or grandfathers; women have no rights. A member of Afghanistan’s upper house, Senator Humaira Namati, has called this law “worse than during the Taliban (government). Anyone who spoke out was accused of being against Islam”. It makes no difference to the Taliban, of course, that the Quran expressly forbids Muslim men from forcing decisions on their wives “against their will”. Karzai’s justification is the usual one: politics. He wanted the support of theocrats in the election scheduled for August this year. Under pressure, there is talk of a review but no one is sure what that means.

If it’s democracy, it must be “moderate”, right?

One can understand a post-Iraq America’s reluctance towards wars that seem straight out of Kipling. But we in the region have to live with the political consequences of superpower intervention, and the casual legitimacy that Obama is offering to a destructive ideology will create blowback that spreads far beyond the geography of “Afpak”.

Benazir Bhutto and the ISI did not create the Taliban in the winter of 1994 for war against America. Its purpose was to defeat fractious Afghan warlords, and establish a totalitarian regime that would equate Afghanistan’s strategic interests to Pakistan’s. The ISI conceived an “Afpak” long before the idea reached the outer rim of Washington’s thinking. Pakistan worked assiduously to widen the Taliban’s legitimacy and would have drawn America into the fold through the oil-pipeline siren song if Osama bin Laden had not blown every plan apart. In some essentials, things have not changed. Pakistan’s interests still lie in a pro-Islamabad Taliban regime in Kabul. The “moderation” theory is a ploy to provide war-weary America with an exit point. India’s anxieties will be offered a smile in public and a shrug in private.

History is uncomfortable with neat closures. Neither the Taliban nor Pakistan are what they were in 1994: the former
is much stronger, the latter substantially weaker. The fall of Kabul to the Taliban this time could be a curtain raiser to the siege of Islamabad.

There is nothing called a moderate lash, or backlash, President Obama.


7 posted on 01/22/2010 2:24:12 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Article date that is missing in my comment above:

12 April 2009, 12:44am IST


8 posted on 01/22/2010 2:25:47 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Islaminaction
Obama/Gates: We Recognize the Taliban...

...as kindred spirits but lacking our PR machine.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

9 posted on 01/22/2010 2:31:46 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: GeronL

Our government’s foolishness is on par with that of the UK’s Labour Party.


10 posted on 01/22/2010 2:35:11 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: James C. Bennett

I did not see that article in the past, thanks for posting the truth.


11 posted on 01/22/2010 2:36:18 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction
It can be a very good idea to let some of the leaders of the opposition into the new government. But only after they have been utterly beaten, and have humbly (and truthfully) sworn to support the powers that defeated them.

Numerous Confederate leaders later served the United States, including men like Confederate General Joe Wheeler, who chaired the House Ways and Means Committee, and became a General in the United States Army during the Spanish-American War. General Hans Spiedel, Rommel's Chief of Staff in France, in 1944, later led tens of thousands of American troops as NATO Ground Commander.

But only after the movement they served was utterly destroyed, after they acknowledged that destruction, and after they petitioned to be allowed to serve the new order.

Allowing the Taliban to both keep fighting, and join the present Afghan Government, seems like a stupendously stupid idea. Even for the Obama Administration.

12 posted on 01/22/2010 2:49:09 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: The Comedian

Just another shoutout to the homeys


13 posted on 01/22/2010 2:53:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Islaminaction

The Taliban are oppressors and murderers of women and children. That should not be a group we “can do business with”.


14 posted on 01/22/2010 2:53:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Islaminaction; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...
Good one...

The list, ping

15 posted on 01/22/2010 3:39:51 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Islaminaction

Who runs the source website? Feel free to send private reply if you like. The report on the military being to blame plus other facts are discussed on professional soldiers.

The blame is clearly on this PC BS that was pushed on the military, too. Take a real good look at even advisors to Homeland Security. CAIR, ACLU, plus everyone Obama knows and pus in power is a damn progressive. I hope those who are not up to speed on progressives watched Glen Beck as I think he covered it today.

We need more Tea Parties and there is no time to rest. We need to recruit more for the Tea Party. Damn, Hilliary is out to take our guns too via the UN.


16 posted on 01/22/2010 3:47:09 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

Hi Lumper, it is my site and the Pentagon is part of the problem, not the other soldiers. Almost all of the soldiers that I have spoken to, admit this as well.

Look how clueless this General is, and Casey can be added to this list as well.

US Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond: Islam is a Beautiful Religion

http://loganswarning.com/?p=240

You are right, we can never let up!


17 posted on 01/22/2010 4:04:14 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Nachum

Thanks Nachum!


18 posted on 01/22/2010 4:04:44 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

Thanks for the INFO.

I recall back in 68-69, we felt like anyone above the rank of Captain had no damn idea what was going on in the bush, It was the company grade officers and NCO’s leading the damn combat patrols/OPS. I have read similar remarks during this conflict from CPT’s in the Captains career course (old IOAC) at Benning about Gens, who are guest speakers addressing the class.

The one thing that fries my fanny the most, is this PC crap gets men killed. Never did I imagine some Gen would tell the enemy we will not use CAS where civilians are even if our men are in heavy contact. I have heard tactics spilled openly to the enemy, ROE blurted openly, BS on POW handling, etc. Amazing. Now, Holder is going to treat the enemy like the gang that terrorized the projects.

Pure BS.


19 posted on 01/22/2010 6:10:44 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

You are welcome, and the new ROE and PC attitude is certainly not fair to our great troops.


20 posted on 01/22/2010 6:15:03 PM PST by Islaminaction
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