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Reid to use Reconciliation to Pass ObamaCare, The People be Damned
Conservative Hideout 2.0 ^ | 2-21-10 | Matt

Posted on 02/21/2010 10:28:40 AM PST by ConservativeHideout

The Hill today is reporting that Harry Reid will be using the Reconciliation process to pass ObamaCare. The Democrats, who have been offering “bipartisanship,” apparently see the meeting on the 25th as a formality. They actually intend on having a bill done within the next 60 days.

By Michael O’Brien - 02/20/10 01:44 PM ET

Democrats will finish their health reform efforts within the next two months by using a majority-vote maneuver in the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said.

“I’ve had many conversations this week with the president, his chief of staff, and Speaker Pelosi,” Reid said during an appearance Friday evening on “Face to Face with Jon Ralston” in Nevada. “And we’re really trying to move forward on this.”

“We’ll do a relatively small bill to take care of what we’ve already done,” Reid said, affirming that Democrats would use the reconciliation process. “We’re going to have that done in the next 60 days.”

Reid said that the final Democratic bill is likely to be unveiled Monday night.

Many of us have been predicting that the upcoming meeting is a sham, and that the Democrats are only doing it for appearances. This only confirms our thinking. The Democrats fear that their majorities are gone in November, so they are going to try to ram something through no matter what.

I believe that they are doing this for the purposes of immortality. They know that a government program, once passed, is virtually indestructible. The pressure that the left can wield against a future Congress administration is considerable. The rent-a-mob can be deployed, and the MSM will spout the party line 24-7. They will wage their typical propaganda and intimidation campaigns in an effort to maintain their power.

That’s where we come in. Of course, the GOP needs to state and restate their position. They MUST attempt to communicate with the people. In return, we have to support those elected officials that have supported us and what we believe. If the rent-a-mob shows up, we show up too. The days of complacency are over-for all time. The past year only shows that tyranny has crept in for decades, and Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are only dining at the table that has been set for them. As Jefferson said, “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” I think we understand that now.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; hillarycare; obama; obamacare; palin; pelosi; politics; reid; romney; romneycare

1 posted on 02/21/2010 10:28:40 AM PST by ConservativeHideout
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To: ConservativeHideout

Harry go ahead you will be voted out and then you will be burned at the stake.


2 posted on 02/21/2010 10:30:06 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

We have lost control of OUR government. And just think, WE pay these @$$holes.


3 posted on 02/21/2010 10:30:19 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: ConservativeHideout; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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4 posted on 02/21/2010 10:32:38 AM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: ConservativeHideout

Sean had the best idea for Republicans on this. No meeting. Zigzag the country to explain what’s happening. Advertise and vehemently shout “NO” at every turn!


5 posted on 02/21/2010 10:33:05 AM PST by albie
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To: ConservativeHideout


6 posted on 02/21/2010 10:33:14 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeHideout

IMHO this is just a ploy to keep everybody riled up and distracted. I think the media is playing us like a fiddle.


7 posted on 02/21/2010 10:36:39 AM PST by JoSixChip (HOPE = Have Obumber Prove Eligibility)
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To: albie

I agree with everything but the no meeting. I think they should go and present their plan. It will be televised. They’ll have an audience there. They can talk about how the Dem plan will raise costs and cost jobs. Then, when all of that happens, they have more credibility.


8 posted on 02/21/2010 10:37:23 AM PST by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
We have lost control of OUR government. And just think, WE pay these @$$holes.

Do you live in Beijing?

That's where the money comes from.

9 posted on 02/21/2010 10:38:48 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

I’ll get back to you on that around April 15th. ;o)


10 posted on 02/21/2010 10:42:07 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: JoSixChip

That’s always a possibility. If that is so, what is the real game?


11 posted on 02/21/2010 10:42:38 AM PST by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: albie

And you really think they have the guts to do that??????? They will not even have the gutts to stop neither healthcare AND cap and trade - Graham wants cap and trade.


12 posted on 02/21/2010 10:46:05 AM PST by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

13 posted on 02/21/2010 10:48:55 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: American Dream 246

It’s doable. The guts part is up to them.


14 posted on 02/21/2010 10:52:09 AM PST by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: ConservativeHideout

K, but what about that Byrd rule?


15 posted on 02/21/2010 10:56:58 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: All; ConservativeHideout

Plus, Obama is taking over the legislature’s job and writing the bill:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2455279/posts?page=70


16 posted on 02/21/2010 11:24:51 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

He doesn’t have the votes. I doubt the votes are in the House to do the same.


17 posted on 02/21/2010 11:34:39 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: ConservativeHideout

Time for the GOP to totally shut down the senate. Time to filibuster the attendance roll calls. Block the parking lots with their cars. Time to do any and all things they can to block and impede the socialists/communists. They should have the cajones to climb up on ol’ Harry Reid’s podium and stage a sit-in....desperate times call for desperate measures.


18 posted on 02/21/2010 11:39:09 AM PST by krogers58
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To: krogers58

John has a long mustache


19 posted on 02/21/2010 11:40:37 AM PST by krogers58
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To: ConservativeHideout

Reconcilation bills only deal with budget issues.


20 posted on 02/21/2010 11:42:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Harry does not care at this point. He knows he and a lot of the other rats are lame ducks and will not be reelected, so why not stick it to the people one last time?
21 posted on 02/21/2010 11:46:46 AM PST by mrsixpack36
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To: ConservativeHideout
Says the page has gone AWOL. But I've read it. It's only blocked until 2011 and then goes into effect. We have a year to get it repealed. It's not fair or right to treat our retired Military like this. They'll need a third insurance to cover what TFL and Medicare will no longer cover.

We had our 6 month check ups (because of the meds we take) and a new sign was up in our doc's office, that IF Medicare was your only health ins, then you had to pay the difference UP FRONT before the doctor's visit. I can't blame the doctor, the re-imbursment barely covers his overhead cost. And they are talking about dropping it from 80% to 60%.

22 posted on 02/21/2010 12:01:59 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: American Dream 246

This is what I posted on another thread:

What bothers me the most in all this, is where is the strong denouncing of these Chicago thugs by Republicans? Is there not a Jesse Helms amongst them?


23 posted on 02/21/2010 12:11:26 PM PST by sasportas
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To: ConservativeHideout

Are they guys totally ignorant of the polls? Pushing Obamacare through Congress like this could make Democrats an endangered species. I would think that state Democratic parties are shaking in their shoes at the fallout from this kind of crap from Democrats in Congress.


24 posted on 02/21/2010 12:13:48 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: sasportas
That fact really bothers me. The GOP no longer repesents the people either. They are fence stradding. Their absence of outrage is breathtaking.
25 posted on 02/21/2010 12:25:50 PM PST by dforest
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To: GailA
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

26 posted on 02/21/2010 12:33:35 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ConservativeHideout

The American people need to let them know that come November forward we will make sure we prosecute these lawbreakers to the fullest extent of the law!


27 posted on 02/21/2010 12:44:47 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Cockblock the sock puppet in 2010)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Only if We the People let this occur....


28 posted on 02/21/2010 1:27:09 PM PST by mo
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To: ConservativeHideout

“....there ARE NO benefits....at least scheduled until 2014(and IMHO..there NEVER will be any benefits whatsoever paid) ...this is a TAX BILL...(retroactive to January 01, 2010) and it is critical to the fall elections...without it...they haven’t the cash to put on the street for the balance of the “stimulus” packaged they need to GOTV with ACORN and SEIU”


29 posted on 02/21/2010 1:29:14 PM PST by mo
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Reid and Pelosi are failures for a failed PREziDent.

Reid isn't going to backdoor jack. The Senate votes are not there, and the AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT WANT THESE 3 GOOFS ARE PUSHIN'.

I'm planning on a BIG celebration when that weasel Reid is tossed from Office. Can. Not. Wait.

30 posted on 02/21/2010 2:00:48 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: ConservativeHideout

If I hear any conservative use “reconciliation”, they are out. This is The NUCLEAR OPTION.


31 posted on 02/21/2010 2:03:50 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: American Dream 246

“And you really think they have the guts to do that???????”

...never said I thought they’d have the guts to do anything. Just what I thought they should do. They got a smooth, clean pass to gather some “guts” with the VA, NJ, MA dem debacle. They STILL don’t get it! Doesn’t seem that 95% of Washington does. They will in November.


32 posted on 02/21/2010 3:16:59 PM PST by albie
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To: DarthVader

But I thought he said it was the economy stupid and that’s our #1 priority.

My how fast we forget!


33 posted on 02/21/2010 3:40:24 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: mrsixpack36

U are right and that has been my concern for a while it was called “Scorched Earth” back in WWII.


34 posted on 02/21/2010 3:42:07 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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