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Glenn Beck and the Fox Puppets Want to Repeal the 20th Century
Newsweek ^ | February 22, 2010 | Jonathan Alter

Posted on 02/22/2010 12:15:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
•State legislatures electing U.S. senators: The 17th Amendment, part of the progressive movement, allowed for the direct election of senators. If you think the Senate is bad now, imagine what it was like when state legislators were the only voters. (They defeated Abraham Lincoln in Illinois in 1858 even though he won the popular vote for enate). Beck likes hacks.

THis would be an excellent idea. The republic was much stronger when the states had this power....

41 posted on 02/22/2010 12:35:27 PM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Why did you post a picture of George Costanza?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Costanza


42 posted on 02/22/2010 12:36:15 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

I’ve always looked at it as one of those things that could go both ways. The 17th did change somewhat the purpose, being representatives of the States versus individuals, however, it came at a time when more individuals started becoming more informed and more directly influenced by their respective States so it gave more power back to individuals.

It is how it has been used since that is the real problem. It has become a de facto House of Lords.


43 posted on 02/22/2010 12:36:52 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Puppage
“Progressivism is what they call it when they're afraid to call it what it REALLY is: liberalism.”

It really isn't liberalism it is Stalinism. The Progressive movement of the early 1900’s(Theodore Roosevelt etc) was about honest, responsive government and reforming the corrupt Democrat machines(Tammany Hall etc). The Progressive movement of the 1930’s on was financed and supported by the former Soviet Union.

44 posted on 02/22/2010 12:37:14 PM PST by detective
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To: Puppage
“Progressivism is what they call it when they're afraid to call it what it REALLY is: liberalism.”

It really isn't liberalism it is Stalinism. The Progressive movement of the early 1900’s(Theodore Roosevelt etc) was about honest, responsive government and reforming the corrupt Democrat machines(Tammany Hall etc). The Progressive movement of the 1930’s on was financed and supported by the former Soviet Union.

45 posted on 02/22/2010 12:37:30 PM PST by detective
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To: avacado

If I recall correctly, it was also a Republican house of Representatives that first passed woman’s suffrage laws that led to the 19th Amendment. It was a Democrat controlled Senate that first killed it. Even in the second attempt, when it did pass, it was still primarly Republicans who voted for it (House: for- 36R 20D, against 8R, 17D).

It was also a Democrat who tried to overturn the 19th in the courts saying it was improperly ratified (Leser v Garnett).


46 posted on 02/22/2010 12:42:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow. That piece would be dripping with red ink even if it were to be turned in by an 8th grader. I’m toying with the idea of tacking on a couple of weekends of detention.


47 posted on 02/22/2010 12:42:43 PM PST by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: mnehring

Beck gives me a headache.


48 posted on 02/22/2010 12:43:29 PM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Beck is interesting at times, incomprehensible at others. He is certainly no Rush Limbaugh.


49 posted on 02/22/2010 12:49:51 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The 17th Amendment is one of the most destructive ammendments in our constitution.


50 posted on 02/22/2010 12:49:55 PM PST by LiberConservative (Obama: the "corpse man" president.)
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To: Nervous Tick

age but IQ would work too! ;)


51 posted on 02/22/2010 12:57:17 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Glenn Beck and the Fox Puppets Want to Repeal the 20th Century

The bloodiest centrury in human history? Why not.

52 posted on 02/22/2010 12:58:27 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Party at the governor's mansion, Columbus Ohio.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No serious person would mistake Jonathan Alter for a newsman.


53 posted on 02/22/2010 1:00:05 PM PST by ontap
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To: Puppage
And Liberalism is the second cousin of Socialism. Our government is so smart that it is going broke.
54 posted on 02/22/2010 1:05:02 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Glenn Beck has now supplanted Rush Limbaugh as the most influential broadcaster in America. He's the one the tea-party movement looks to.

HA! Beck still can't hold Rush's jock strap after a round at Pebble Beach!

55 posted on 02/22/2010 1:05:05 PM PST by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The goal is to discredit “progressivism” as they did “liberalism.”

Liberalism discredited ITSELF, Mr Alter! Even with 24/7 cheer leading and covering up by the MSM, liberalism was exposed as the dangerous fraud it had always been. Why do you think you people had to change your name to “progressive?”


56 posted on 02/22/2010 1:05:08 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Other than spelling Limbaugh’s name right, I’m not sure there is a factually accurate statement in the entire hit piece.


57 posted on 02/22/2010 1:11:42 PM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

bump


58 posted on 02/22/2010 1:12:02 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Actually it was military research and development that pioneered spread spectrum and packet-switched networks which are crucial to cellular communications. Just MHO...


59 posted on 02/22/2010 1:13:20 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Where to start?

This guy is pretty much wrong, on everything.


60 posted on 02/22/2010 1:23:56 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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