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George Will Hits The Nail on the Head, Robert Reich's Head
The Lid/ABC News/Newsbusters ^ | 3/7/2010 | The Lid

Posted on 03/07/2010 5:13:15 PM PST by Shellybenoit

For the second week in a row George Will made mincemeat out of a liberal apologist for Obamacare. Last week it was Paul Krugman, this week, Robert Reich former Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton, co-founder of American Prospect Magazine and advocate of health care rationing.

In a September 2007 speech to an audience at the UC Berkeley, Reich was quoted saying,

"We're going to have to, if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let you die

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: georgewill; obamacare; robertreich; thisweek

1 posted on 03/07/2010 5:13:15 PM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

The problem is that half of the American people are such dolts that they can’t be counted on to buy their own insurance—the Democrat half.


2 posted on 03/07/2010 5:18:08 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Shellybenoit
Needless to say Reich,all 4 feet 3 inches of him,will get all the technology he wants or needs for the rest of his life.
3 posted on 03/07/2010 5:19:59 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Shellybenoit

This the essence of the Donkey Party message for the last fifty years: the average American is too stupid to know what’s good for him or her, so we’ll make the decisions for them.


4 posted on 03/07/2010 5:20:25 PM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Shellybenoit

Everyone in this cursed administration keeps insisting they are going to lower the cost of health care by reimbursing doctors for the quality of care rather than the quantity of care.

Do people realize that means that someone is going to be deciding which tests, and what care you are going to receive. Someone other than your doctor.

Some bureaucrat?

Stop and think about what they are proposing.


5 posted on 03/07/2010 5:20:36 PM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: Carley
Of course, the identities of the members of the (ahem) panels making these decisions will not be made public.
6 posted on 03/07/2010 5:28:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Maybe Holder will appoint the terror lawyers in his department to monitor our doctors.


7 posted on 03/07/2010 5:37:32 PM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: Shellybenoit

Here is the ugly truth that everyone wants to ignore,

This is exactly what is going to happen whether people like it or not. The question becomes, sooner or later?

Or are we all going to act like good little liberals and assume that we can just keep spending money that doesn’t exist?


8 posted on 03/07/2010 5:38:28 PM PST by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: Carley
Do people realize that means that someone is going to be deciding which tests, and what care you are going to receive.

Worse yet, they're going to decide who gets the tests and care, and it's not just the old that had better worry.

You have juvenile diabetes, MS, CP, or any other disability, sorry; you're just not worth enough to society to justify the expense.

Welcome to Nazi America.

If you really want to cut medical costs, only allow catastrophic insurance policies or at least high deductible policies. When people have to hand over cash when they take the kids in for the sniffles or have to pay for that extra test that's nice to have just to be sure, then prices will come down.

9 posted on 03/07/2010 5:40:21 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: Shellybenoit
Damn those "death panels" pop up again.

These folk are the most evil, cold-hearted, beings since Hitler and Mengele.

They must be stopped!

10 posted on 03/07/2010 5:41:16 PM PST by zerosix (zerosix (native Sunflower))
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To: Shellybenoit

Maybe that Little Peahead, Reich, will be in canada, or France when he comes down with a survivable Attack “IF HE WAS IN AMERICA!” but he isn’t and hence we will be Blessed with never hearing another sneering Traitorous word from the Twerp!


11 posted on 03/07/2010 5:47:35 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: seowulf

Putting high risk people into a pool and then subsidizing the cost of coverage would lower the rates for everyone else and keep those in need of continuous care getting the coverage they deserve.

But we know it’s not about health care it’s about taking over our country. How terrifying and inexplicable.


12 posted on 03/07/2010 5:48:20 PM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: Shellybenoit
We're going to have to, if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let you die

Hey Robert. Who is "We"??

13 posted on 03/07/2010 5:50:18 PM PST by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: Carley
Putting high risk people into a pool and then subsidizing the cost of coverage would lower the rates for everyone else and keep those in need of continuous care getting the coverage they deserve.

Exactly right.

Instead of a subsidy as a first choice, I would also offer tax breaks to family members who wanted to contribute to the cost of taking care of their seriously ill family member. Only use subsidies as a last resort.

I have a severely autistic older brother. If I were allowed to keep some of the money I pay in taxes in return for paying for his care, I would gladly do so and I would also have much more say in the care that he gets; another benefit.

14 posted on 03/07/2010 5:57:14 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: seowulf

There are solutions that make sense. They are being deliberately ignored by this crazed administration.

They’ve taken a page from Stalin’s handbook.


15 posted on 03/07/2010 5:58:54 PM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Of course, the identities of the members of the (ahem) panels making these decisions will not be made public.

Let's say that attempts will be made to conceal their identities. But I think that they will be uncovered and to protect them, they will leave their "occupation" and go into some sort of witness protection program since what they do will make their lives worthless. Lots of people will have motives to end their lives.

16 posted on 03/07/2010 5:59:54 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Gay State Conservative

Needless to say Reich,all 4 feet 3 inches of him,will get all the technology he wants or needs for the rest of his life.

He’s just mad because he didn’t get HGH (Human Growth Hormone) shots when he was younger - it’s too late now. I wish he would have had them too, then he wouldn’t be such a @#$@#$ now.


17 posted on 03/07/2010 6:19:28 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Shellybenoit

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Reich is an a$$hole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxuUj6vFa4


18 posted on 03/07/2010 6:22:45 PM PST by Touch Not the Cat (You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory; it is better to perish than to live a slave)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I think that he is in dire need of a head transplant. Or maybe he is the court jester - in which case, he is brilliant.


19 posted on 03/07/2010 6:29:18 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: hinckley buzzard

As a panel, they will don black hajib, and render their decisions in full view on CSPAN-5


20 posted on 03/07/2010 6:32:10 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: Shellybenoit

G. Will can’t bring himself to admit Palin was right about panels.


21 posted on 03/07/2010 7:01:53 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
For the second week in a row George Will made mincemeat out of a liberal apologist for Obamacare. Last week it was Paul Krugman, this week, Robert Reich...
Thanks Shellybenoit.
22 posted on 03/07/2010 7:02:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Shellybenoit
All I know is I'm tied of this elitist, George Will!
23 posted on 03/07/2010 7:16:54 PM PST by factmart
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To: seowulf
Welcome to Nazi America.

Rather ironical isn't it, considering the White House demohacks out in front advocating these ideas? Emanuel-Zeke and Rahm. Axelrod. Reich-uhhhhh.

24 posted on 03/07/2010 7:26:42 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

They should end all health care for communist midgets who think they are smarter than the rest of us.


25 posted on 03/07/2010 7:33:08 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation ("And when the Antichrist comes, millions will love him.")
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To: factmart

All I know is I’m tired of folks always slamming George Will - even when he writes a brilliant critique of liberalism.


26 posted on 03/07/2010 8:00:07 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Shellybenoit

What did I miss? I saw Will make a good argument but no way in hell did he do to Reich what this article is hinting at. Mincemeat?? give me a break.


27 posted on 03/07/2010 8:05:36 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: D-fendr

Shut the hell up about George Will, he thinks he better than the working man, he gave us McCain!


28 posted on 03/07/2010 8:16:17 PM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
Shut the hell up

Classy.

he gave us McCain!

Yeah, right, he did it, sure,

29 posted on 03/07/2010 8:46:46 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: factmart
Address what is under discussion here. Here's the point Will made to Reich that is the topic of this thread:
WILL: There you have the premise of this legislation and the core of today's liberalism: the American people are such dopes they can't be counted upon to buy their own insurance.
That's the opposite of elitist.
30 posted on 03/07/2010 8:56:51 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
I had enough of George, yes he on side now but he will help to get the rino elected later on!

And he don't think Palin smart enough, that's a elitist!

31 posted on 03/07/2010 9:06:12 PM PST by factmart
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To: factmart
And he don't think Palin smart enough

Is expecting proper grammar elitist?

32 posted on 03/07/2010 9:19:22 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: factmart

Will’s been out there making the conservative case for over three decades. Whether he supports Palin or not he’s a major contributor to the debate. We could use a few more Wills and a lot less snide comments from his detractors.


33 posted on 03/07/2010 9:24:33 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

He the token conservative who is soft compared to the hard left on the show.


34 posted on 03/07/2010 9:28:06 PM PST by factmart
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To: D-fendr

Classy.

That’s how the real people talk! George, I mean D-fender.


35 posted on 03/07/2010 9:33:44 PM PST by factmart
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To: factmart

He hammered Reich. Deal with it.

You’re being the elitist.


36 posted on 03/07/2010 9:33:51 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: factmart
That’s how the real people talk!

Sorry, real people aren't illiterate. Is poor grammar a requirement for conservatives for you? Is your problem with Will that his subjects and verbs agree? Is that elitist in your world?

37 posted on 03/07/2010 9:41:43 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

yes


38 posted on 03/07/2010 9:52:24 PM PST by factmart
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To: factmart

Well, that explains a lot. Sorry again. Conservative doesn’t require one to be ignorant of the english language.


39 posted on 03/07/2010 9:59:15 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Carley; All
“Stop and think about what they are proposing”

It is not a proposal. The FEDERAL COORDINATING COUNCIL FOR COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH was established and funded to the tune of $1.1 billion in the Porkulus bill.

First “public” hearing was for April 14, 2009. Not well advertised was it?

Do a google search and see how these councils have been used in the U.K.

40 posted on 03/07/2010 10:03:40 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: hinckley buzzard; All

“Of course, the identities of the members of the (ahem) panels making these decisions will not be made public.”

The 15 member panel was made public last year. I don’t remember all the people, but Zeke Emanuel(Rambo’s relative) was one of them.

Best I recall, he is on record as not objecting to the “Useless Eaters” concept.(and that’s an understatement).


41 posted on 03/07/2010 10:10:34 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: RoadKingSE
Rather ironical isn't it

Yes, indeed.

Socialists and communists are always socialists and communists first, Jews (or whatever ethnicity) last. It seems socialists and communists, no matter what ethnicity, never learn the lessons of history.

Socialists think it didn't have smart enough people in charge last time or it was just poorly implemented, and of course they're just the ones they've been looking for now. They smarter than the Mussolini's of the past, so they'll make it work.

The laws of nature know differently: human nature is what it is. Socialism and communism always lead to tyranny and death.

42 posted on 03/08/2010 6:31:07 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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