Does It Matter if Obamacare Passes?

The Voice of Reason ^ | March 10, 2010 | Texas Peartree

[Texas Peartree]

Hidden from discussions about Reconciliation, 60-vote Senate super-majorities and the arcane rules of passing the same bad bill in both Houses of Congress, a more fundamental obstacle to socializing our medical system may soon emerge: the voters' sovereignty. People may soon stop to ask whether passing Obama's bill matters, considering what would likely happen after the President signs his landmark mistake.

Imagine that this sweeping healthcare abomination passes with zero votes from Republicans in the House and Senate. Never before has an important reform bill been passed in this manner. Heck, even the Civil Right laws of the 1960s were able to find some non-extremist Democrats to support them.

Assume further than the brain-dead Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and walking-argument-for-limiting-botox Speaker Nancy Pelosi pass a bill using every machination at their disposal. In November of this year the people will speak. My guess is that the people would elect Republicans into the majority in the House. The Senate is more difficult to change quickly, as only 1/3rd of the Senate is up for re-election every election cycle. Suffice it to say, the Senate would have a 50-50 chance of reverting to Republican control.

Since the healthcare reform begins collecting taxes in 2011, but only begins spending these taxes on universal healthcare in 2015, wouldn't we have an opportunity to repeal Obamacare? We would not need a 2/3rds super-majority to override a Presidential veto, as Congress puts forth all spending bills.

Furthermore, any Democrats in the Senate who are up for re-election in 2012 would likely support this repeal after seeing the landslide against their party in 2010. Unlike now, by then few Democrats in Congress could be bought off easily by the Obama Administration, as it would seem likely that he is a one-termer . . .

[Landru]

"1) If it passes, it is unconstitutional.

True.
Until someone, thing or body successfully challenges it, not before.

"2) 37 states are working on a law to opt out of federal Osama-Care."

True.
Though if you think that tact will scare this pack of merry Bolsheviks you've another think coming. The states are so badly addicted to fed monies, they're finished before they start. UNLESS, a state's willing to forgo all federal funding whatsoever. What're the odds of that happening with 75% or more of these states? :o)

And there'll various EOs along the way, going on under the radar no less also. Not sure EOs can be challenged by anything.

Right now, March 2010? Those who're plugged-in could really use some genuine hope, pal. B&W hope in the form of blood promises made by right-wing candidates. Declarations that in no uncertain terms they pledge to reverse any & all of this nonsense, IF it passes.

If a majority of the electorate doesn't already know what's up by now? How they're to be heavily taxed 4-5 years BEFORE realizing any benefit? We're all dead broke and there is no more left while in debt for decades as it is.?
They sure will have heard the word by the time the Right candidates finished, and that's the point.

Let's find out once & for finally exactly what the American people want. Let's find out exactly how plugged-in the American people really are. Let's make the 2010 election a referendum. Let those would-be candidates tell US they're going to right this monstrous wrong at all costs and even more importantly, why. Let us all see if our candidates know what the hell they're trying to do for *us*.

Not the SOS.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Though if you think that tact will scare this pack of merry Bolsheviks you’ve another think coming.”

Nope, correct. Obama is out to destroy the country. Nothing else matters.

[FBD]

They are gonna push this through, by hook or by crook.
-and there won’t be enough votes next year to over-ride a veto.