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What Are You Willing to Sacrifice?
beericus.com ^ | March 18, 2010 | Traakon

Posted on 03/19/2010 10:34:41 AM PDT by beericus

We, the proud few who populate this forum with our minds musings, quips, jest, scantily clad women pics and bluster, on whole, speak our views and love of this country in strong and bold voices. But in the end, what have we truly risked in being so expressive? Perhaps some ridicule, an off color comment or should we step so far a field, banishment from this tiny world of interaction. Would our voices be so loud, our opinions so strong if the recourse were loss of our lands, our livelihood, our freedom, the freedom of our wives and children’s and even possibly the loss of our own lives?

Before you let ego, machismo or bravado answer let your thoughts fall to those who made the path we now are free to tread so boldly.

I refer, of course, to our Founding Fathers, the men who set forth our Declaration of Independence. Fifty-six men signed the Declaration of Independence and instantly became traitors to the crown of England and subject to the penalties of said offense…death by hanging. If you still hold the bravado for your own life, what of your wife and children? Of the fifty-six signatories, two had their wives brutalized by British troops, one (John Hart) had his wife die while he was being pursued by Hessian troops (German mercenaries hired by the British) and all 13 of his children taken, never to be seen again. Richard Stockton, a judge, was pulled from his bed in the dead of night, beaten to near death then imprisoned were he was starved beyond physical recovery. While imprisoned, his lands were ruined; his family ravaged and upon his death, forced to live on the charity of who ever would offer them such.

All were continually hunted for the bounty England had placed upon their heads. All had invested their entire wealth and reputation in the declaration and some were ostracized and abandoned by their own family and friends for the act. Five were captured and imprisoned undergoing unimaginable brutality. Several lost wives, sons or entire families to the British retaliation. Nine died of wounds or hardships during the course of war. Seventeen lost everything they owned. One, Abraham Clark, enlisted his two sons to the fight against the British; both were captured. Both were sent to the infamous British prison ship anchored in New York Harbor, the Jersey. More than 11,000 American prisoners were to die on this “Hell Ship”, in conditions unimaginable to our modern sensibilities. Both of the Clark sons were treated with a special brutality because of their fathers act against the Crown. With American victory inevitable at the end, the British offered Abraham Clark the freedom of both his sons; he merely had to recant his involvement in the declaration and once more swear to King and Crown. Who would blame him the mostly symbolic act for the lives of his sons? Yet, bearing a sorrow we cannot imagine, he held to what he believed and what his sons were suffering on behalf of and said “NO!”

There was not one that did not risk all they had and not one that did not suffer greatly for the doing. These brave few men literally forfeit everything and not one turned or went back on his word. The honor, sacrifice and courage they exhibited gave us the nation we have today and the freedom to join together on a public forum and express our views with brash certainty. Knowing the price that was paid, who among us would still be so bold in comparison.


TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: cwii; opinion; patriot

1 posted on 03/19/2010 10:34:42 AM PDT by beericus
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To: beericus
...or should we step so far afield, banishment from this tiny world of interaction.

Ask Travis McGee about that one. You can have your feet planted squarely in the field and get the boot.

2 posted on 03/19/2010 10:39:14 AM PDT by gundog (A republic...if you can keep it.)
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To: beericus

I have my lines in the sand. Cross any one of them for an armed and vigorous response, no matter the odds. History teaches us many terrible lessons concerning those who have no lines to cross nor the means to defend them.


3 posted on 03/19/2010 10:39:15 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: beericus

I’d be happy if the people exhorting everyone else to come to DC would just sacrifice a weekend to come themselves. At this point I’m almost as angry at them as I am at Pelosi.


4 posted on 03/19/2010 10:42:30 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

>I’d be happy if the people exhorting everyone else to come to DC would just sacrifice a weekend to come themselves.
>At this point I’m almost as angry at them as I am at Pelosi.

I can see your point. It’s almost like the story of the Little Red Hen.


5 posted on 03/19/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: beericus

If it was good enough for those men, it’s good enough for me.


6 posted on 03/19/2010 10:45:37 AM PDT by gigster
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To: OneWingedShark

I live 60 miles from DC. I come to as many things as I possibly can (i’ve got a PILE of old signs in my attic), and constantly hear “we’re with you in spirit”. I no longer give a damn about people who are “here in spirit”. Congress can’t see you “in spirit”, they have to see you “in person”. If this really is for all the marbles, last chance for freedom, edge of the next Civil War, then get your butts DOWN here.


7 posted on 03/19/2010 10:50:36 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: beericus

Without the commitment and courage of our beloved Founding Fathers, we would not be considering what we will or won’t do to keep what others have fought and died for.

In todays world, I will not be a Calvary of one, I don’t need to be. Obama and his traitorous dems have made it clear that they intend to steal our Liberty and Freedoms. They will not suffer at the hands of 56 brave men, they will suffer the wrath of 10’s of millions defending themselves and seeking justice.

The enemy within, need not be concerned with whether or not the patriots of our country are willing to sacrifice all, in the name of Liberty, Freedom, country and our Flag. THEY need to ask themselves (soon) if they are willing to risk/lose it all, with their continued efforts to destroy our country and it’s people.

I have made my choice, it’s their turn to decide how far they are willing to go..... or it will be decided for them.

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

“AND FOR THE SUPPORT OF THIS DECLARATION, WITH A FIRM RELIANCE ON THE PROTECTION OF DEVINE PROVIDENCE, WE MUTUALLY PLEDGE TO EACH OTHER OUR LIVES, OUR FORTUNES AND OUR SACRED HONOR.”

JULY 4, 1776


8 posted on 03/19/2010 11:04:40 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: gigster

Ditto !!!


9 posted on 03/19/2010 11:20:49 AM PDT by beericus (Putting the cool in conservatism, dip in the hip and a glid in the stride.)
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To: gundog

Travis McGee was banished from FR? Say it ain’t so!


10 posted on 03/19/2010 11:25:38 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: backwoods-engineer

He was going toe to toe with Tony Snow when TS got the White House spokesmodel job. The subject was illegal immigration. The only thing I can figure is that JimRob thought he was being rude to Tony. This was like a year before the whole II sh*t hit the fan. Travis was prescient on that one, but it cost him.


11 posted on 03/19/2010 11:33:28 AM PDT by gundog (A republic...if you can keep it.)
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To: beericus

Let every man act according to the dictates of his own consciense. Notwithstandings exhortations to the contrary, they also serve who only stand and wait.


12 posted on 03/19/2010 11:36:43 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: beericus

I think we all need to make sacrifices. That’s why I think we should build altars next to the U.S. Capitol, and every state capitol building in the country, and start sacrificing the occupants.


13 posted on 03/19/2010 11:38:45 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Noumenon

>> I have my lines in the sand.

We need to think about the line established by the Constitution - the line that divides the good from the bad.


14 posted on 03/19/2010 11:43:30 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: RichInOC

lmao


15 posted on 03/19/2010 11:54:47 AM PDT by beericus (Putting the cool in conservatism, dip in the hip and a glid in the stride.)
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To: Gene Eric
We need to think about the line established by the Constitution - the line that divides the good from the bad.

Yes. One can ask for no better guideline than that. Some of us swore an oath...

16 posted on 03/19/2010 12:07:56 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: nina0113
edge of the next Civil War

Maybe not such a bad thing. This could be the only way, there is a lot of bad blood out here..

17 posted on 03/19/2010 1:33:51 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Travis McGee was banished from FR? Say it ain’t so!

It does not appear so. His account is still active and he has been posting this afternoon.


18 posted on 03/19/2010 3:30:07 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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