Skip to comments.Where Were You When the Republic Died?
Posted on 03/21/2010 10:48:23 PM PDT by American Dream 246
In November 2008, Americans elected a socialist as their president. In March 2010, they woke up stunned to find themselves living in a socialist country.
Health insurers - once private companies - are now organs of the federal government. Every citizen is a ward of the state, which can now compel you to have insurance; punish you if you don't; determine if your insurance is acceptable; punish you if it isn't. Thousands of new federal bureaucrats will soon spill from the D.C. Beltway and flood the country, scrutinizing our finances to verify compliance with this new law.
A government that grants itself this kind of power over us can conceivably do anything to us. For our own good, of course. Such a country is in no meaningful sense "free."
And this is only the beginning. Liberals are salivating in contemplation of all the fanciful window trimmings that can in the future be hung from this legislative framework. Public option will soon appear as prelude to single payer, as was the intent all along. Soon, Americans won't even have the illusion of a choice - the government will move from subsidizer to provider, and it will be the only game in town.
So what's next? Some look to the states as possible saviors. Please. The states long ago surrendered their sovereignty, and are now junkies on federal monies, which they need for schools, roads, Medicaid, and much else. If the citizens are now wards of the federal government, the states long since preceded them in that sorry servitude.
The individual? What are we going to do, not pay the taxes to support this beast? Oh, they'll take that from you before you ever get your check; we gave them that power to them long ago, remember. March on Washington, en masse? Lot of good that's done thus far.
The Republicans? Assuming the GOP can take back both houses of Congress and the White House in the next couple of elections (by no means a sure thing), can you name one gigantic entitlement enacted by liberals that Republicans have successfully repealed? Or even made serious effort to repeal? Ever? Anyone?
The Courts? Sure, maybe Obamacare will work its way through the courts, and maybe the Supreme Court will finally take up the case (there is no guarantee of that, remember), and maybe the Court will not have tilted left by then, and maybe the Justices will declare it unconstitutional. Then what? Who will enforce this decision? Obamacare is already unconstitutional on its face, and yet is the law of the land. Do you think the Democrats will say, "Oh, all-right, never-mind," and cheerfully strike it from the books after their successful five-decade long crusade?
And even if a court challenge is eventually successful, how much of the bureaucracy will by then already be in place, how many of the thousands of new regulations already in effect, how much of the billions in new taxes and fines collected, how many jobs killed, how many middle class families addicted to the entitlement?
There's a reason Democrats were desperate to ram this through at all cost - once enacted, such things are all but perpetual. Former freedom-loving peoples begin to tell themselves it's really not so bad. Sure, government is forcing you to eat state-approved gruel, but hey, at least they hold the spoon, and they even pour a little sugar on top when you're good.
The worst part of watching the proceedings unfold on Sunday was the endless stream of commentators and pundits calmly discussing this bill as if it were just one more piece of bad legislation we will have to live under. In fact, what has transpired is nothing less than an overthrow of the old Constitutional order.
In 1776, the American Republic boldly announced its birth with the Declaration of Independence. In 2010, it quietly expired with a declaration of dependence - on government, on entitlement, and on the Democratic party.
Hasn’t died yet... SCOTUS has the last word.
We can all think Lincoln for that last part.
Not dead, only knocked down. Now we have to get up and fight back. Forgotten the bloody footprints in the snow at Valley Forge already?
The civil war is over, Jonnyreb, get a Life!
The Republic is not dead but its enemies will be.
Cleaning my guns.
Obama said at the White House shortly after the House voted: "This isn't radical reform, but it is major reform."
To our Prez I say...
The Constitution gives us one last resort. A Consitutional Convention.
Mt. Carmel? What our you talking about?
You're right. The Civil War has long been over, and as a consequence of that War, the States have been effectively reduced to mere provinces.
Jonnyreb, get a Life!
Oh, and by the way, I was born on what was Union territory, so you can stuff the "Jonnyreb" references.
Not on our watch....get over the wounds. There’s a lot of steam generating the foward thrust. This is no time to apply the brakes or drive off course...
Now I know what you meant, Waco!
Yes, and I’m not sure the Supreme Court is having warm and fuzzy feelings about Mr. Obama at the moment.
Your parents were born in Mississippi?
Can’t help but notice that a number of newbies are posting this kind of “The republic is died” threads. Causes me wonder about their motives.
So Obama loves the free market except for 33% of the economy.
read post #17
Exactly. Enough of the melodrama, please! Time for pushing back - not running up the white flag!
In 1860? Not born yet.
That’s what I’m thinking. They’re here to sow seeds doubt and nihilism.
I read a few choice comments a few days ago. I’m gonna start taking names. I won’t tolerate Trolls here any longer.
Agreed. Many here are ready to surrender right now. Sad.
Make sure you put a few rounds through it after cleaning. They’re more accurate if they’re fouled just a little.
It’s a misnomer to say the republic has died, as long as elections are free.
It’s still a republic. It’s just shifting from a capitalist republic to a socialist republic.
But if Obama takes over healthcare (17% of the economy), the auto industry (10% of the economy) and banking (6% of the economy). With government control of 33% of the economy, how much longer will elections be free?
We better nip this in the bud in October or this might be the republic’s fatal wound.
It will take at least two years and perhaps three to get this mess through the lower courts.
“... but when does The Pledge of Allegiance become a Joke, NEVER?”
Not sure how this applies to my comments on this thread exactly, but “NEVER” is right.
Cleaned mine yesterday.
Push back by flying your state flag until our republic is restored. Respect Old Glory. Just don't fly it...
That’s an idea. One of many. I’ll have to get one. Thanks.
Ya, over half the workers in America are working for the government or owned or controlled by!
My Republic hasn’t died. It has suffered a severe wound and I plan on doing all that is in my power to fix it.
That’s BS. Taking down the flag and storing your patriotism is precisely what libs LOVE.
I recall a comment by the singer, Rickie Lee Jones, shortly after 911. As many Americans where flying the flag from their homes, she said the sight of Old Glory made her feel sick.
I think it is time to start the move and we know what to expect and what the end game will be.
Welfare was reformed and rolled back in the 1990s.
The Pledge of Allegiance To you and me means something but do you think the majority of people really understand what it means?
We need 34 state legislatures to call for a Consitutional Convention with only one specific agenda item. A Constitutional Amendment outlawing socialized medicine in the United States. The Convention could take one week, pass the proposed amendment and then send it to the states for ratification.
Sorry, but I never heard the other word used.
I am not a newbie!!! And everytime I try to warn someone I get insulted. You’d better wake up, the one who don’t like to hear the truth, because time is ruinning out.
“COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP WITH A PHONY FLAG”?!
Don’t spit on the flag because of the current administration. Heck, fly both flags. That’s even better.
As far as this Communism idea goes, you obviously have never spent much time in a communist country. We’re not there yet, and you should be thankful, but if people continue to do what liberals want them to do; give up hope, then we’ll be looking like Havana in short order.
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