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Debka: Can Obama Hold Israel Back from Striking Iran?
Debka Files ^ | 3/26/10 | Gabi Ashkenazi

Posted on 03/30/2010 5:35:08 PM PDT by sweetb

The US president Barack Obama has mounted a round-the-clock siege on Israeli decision-makers at all levels to straitjacket them against supporting an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. An Israeli security official told DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s sources he has never seen America using such direct and roughshod tactics for imposing its will as this US administration has set in train. He declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the situation he described: “Lately, whenever I have a meeting with an Israeli colleague, I have to wait until he finishes talking to some American official ahead of me,” he said. “And when I walk out the door, I find another American waiting to go in.” According to our Washington sources, their contacts at the National Security Council and Pentagon believe they have persuaded Israel’s Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Gaby Ashkenazi there is no need for Israel to attack Iran and, should one arise, it would be better for the US to carry it out. The general was in the US in the second week of March at the same time as US Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Israel was dogged by a major flare-up in US-Israeli relations over the announcement of new building in an East Jerusalem suburb. The crisis overshadowed his talks with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, National Security Advisor Jim Jones and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen and kept them out of the news, so that his presence in the United or States went practically unnoticed.

Israel’s top soldier’s tone on Iran is milder

However, Israeli military circles monitoring the Iranian issue acknowledge that, since visiting the United States, Ashkenazi’s rhetoric on Iran in closed forums has toned down noticeably. He says mildly that no option, including the military one, should be taken off the table, without elaborating. His temperance has, in contrast, made the hawks in the army and the Israeli defense establishment more vocal, although they only criticize the Chief of Staff in private. Some of them maintain his trouble is that he does not understand the Americans – in particular, diplomats and their nuanced behavior. In the middle of a crisis with Israel’s leaders, US officials showered Ashkenazi with pomp and high honors. A straight up soldier, he did not catch onto their ulterior motive, which was to persuade him of the expedience of canceling or at least delaying an Israeli strike against Iran. According to one source, the Israeli general interpreted the US official openness he met on matters they no longer discuss with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak as channels available for dialogue with the right interlocutors. “That’s where he’s mistaken,” said the source. “He thinks he made real headway in Washington, but when the moment of decision about attacking Iran comes around, he’ll find himself receiving the same treatment as any other Israeli in authority.” Describing the mood current in top Israeli military and intelligence quarters, DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources report them standing ready to embark on a military operation against Iran the moment they receive the order from government authority. A high-ranking military official told our sources, “They (i.e., the Israeli military brass) know that they can do it and they want to do it.”

Israeli military is able and willing

By “they know,” he means intelligence is already to hand on the targets which must be hit to disarm Iran’s bomb program. It also means that Israel’s generals are full conscious of the tactical difficulties inherent in the operation and its cost in terms of loss of military lives. “They can” means that the IDF possesses the right manpower and weapons systems to execute the operation and achieve its objectives. If the Obama administration had hoped a military embargo would restrain Israel, “It came too late,” said the source. (See the first item in this issue on the Obama-Netanyahu Impasse.) “The IDF already has everything it needs to go forward with the attack. That the IDF may lack certain resources if the fighting moves into another phase is an argument that does not affect the initial strike. No one in Washington or Jerusalem can see round that corner,” said the source. The assertion “They want to do it” attests to the Israeli government’s appreciation that the moment for the attack is near. Missing it when it comes means that it will be too late; Iran will have acquired a nuclear weapon. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s Washington sources report that administration officials realize that this perception has come to dominate the thinking of a substantial part of Israel’s military leadership, and this has prompted the US rough-and-tough tactics for deterring them. Calling an Israeli attack off altogether is clearly out of the question, so Washington is applying itself to obtaining a postponement. The scenario US officials are painting to dissuade Israelis from attack mode is simple:

US anti-war lobbyists: What about the follow-up?

Let’s say Israeli missiles and its air force successfully attack and destroy key elements of Iran’s nuclear weapons program, they say. Keep in mind that Iran has had plenty of time to prepare for a strike by you or by us, and will therefore have set up alternative facilities for getting their military projects back on track within one or two years. So what happens then? Another strike? And if so, by whom? And who will undertake what we call in military jargon the follow-up? The IDF and the Israeli Air force would be burnt, say the US persuaders. After exposing their assault tactics, they would need two or three years for developing new methods and building fresh assault resources. The Obama administration refuses to attack the Iranian nuclear program now and would certainly not undertake a follow-up operation. Given these considerations, Obama’s men argue, an Israeli attack will leave Iran stronger than ever and more immune than before to military strikes.


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1 posted on 03/30/2010 5:35:08 PM PDT by sweetb
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To: sweetb

It’s none of Obama’s business. The only ones that should get involved are ones that know what they are doing and it sure ain’t him.


2 posted on 03/30/2010 5:37:32 PM PDT by RC2
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To: sweetb

Look, Israel, just do what you have to do. Pay no mind to that idiot in the WH. If he says he’s behind you, don’t believe him. Lying is this guy’s main hobby. He does it to everybody. Even his own base.


3 posted on 03/30/2010 5:37:42 PM PDT by bergmeid (Fumigate Washington NOW!!)
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To: sweetb
Can Obama Hold Israel Back from Striking Iran?

I hope not. If this waits another year Iran will have the bomb. Since there will be no stopping them at that point they will eventually use their terrorist army to destabilize every surrounding state. War is never a first choice, but at some point a conventional war now becomes infinitely preferable to a nuclear war later.
4 posted on 03/30/2010 5:38:48 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: sweetb

It is true that Obama would much prefer that Iran strike Israel.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 5:43:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: RC2

Well said. I was going to go with “not if Israel is smart.”


6 posted on 03/30/2010 5:45:47 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: sweetb

bump


7 posted on 03/30/2010 5:47:47 PM PDT by Kudsman (A lifetime of public service = a lifetime of getting serviced by the public.- Mark Steyn)
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To: sweetb

We are on the brink of World War, and the children in Washington DC have no clue! Pray as much as possible.
Many, many people could die very, very soon. IMHO


8 posted on 03/30/2010 5:50:22 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: sweetb
I believe Obama is working for an Iranian victory and the elimination of Israel. His antipathy for the Jews is shown by his treatment of Netanyahu as well as the trumped up reactions by Biden and the State Department and his close association with the Reverend Wright.

Unfortunately, Obama is willing to torch the Middle East to get his way.

9 posted on 03/30/2010 5:55:48 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: sweetb

Keeping Israel from protecting itself would be like keeping Michelle O from the pastry buffet at a Denney’s. ;-)


10 posted on 03/30/2010 5:59:17 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: sweetb

I’m just sure the Isrealis value Zero’s vast amount of foreign experience, not to mention his diplomatic skills.


11 posted on 03/30/2010 6:07:08 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: SunkenCiv
I usually 'enjoy' Debka, but this one is simply silly -- who in their right minds believes that anybody in Israel is beholden to BHO????

However, I am deeply curious if something BIG is up -- and I wonder if the sudden, not previously announced or publically scheduled trip by BHO to Afghanistan has something to do with finalizing the attack plans.... say, something like..... informing Karzai that he perhaps doesn't want to be BFFs with Ahmadinejad???

Could BHO have instructed Karzai to say something to the Iranians, perhpas something about the physicist who defected last June?

12 posted on 03/30/2010 6:15:00 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sweetb

They ought to do it just to spite the dumb bastard.


13 posted on 03/30/2010 6:25:31 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: sweetb

On balance, an Israeli attack on Iran could temporarily degrade their nuclear capability but would bolster the regime and risk a new Mideast war. On the other hand, a US attack that was also aimed at regime control assets (the Revolutionary Guard and the secret police) could prompt the overthrow of the mullahs.


14 posted on 03/30/2010 6:26:41 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Israel’s hand must be heavy closer to home when the retaliation comes for the preemptive strike against the mullahcracy.


15 posted on 03/30/2010 6:31:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: sweetb

Soetoro can hold Israel back and probably already has. Carter’s old SecState said publicly a while ago that if Israel launches against Iran the American military should shoot the planes down. I suspect that was an announcement of intention by the obaminoids for the ears of the Israeli leadership.


16 posted on 03/30/2010 6:37:58 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: J Edgar

At least some of the “children in Washington” certainly have a “clue.” Imputing incompetence to them results from the error of thinking that they are on America’s side. They are not. The enemy has taken the high ground and is operating the forces of our defense. It is problematic how much longer they will be concerned with defense.


17 posted on 03/30/2010 6:41:33 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: arthurus

I fear that you are correct.


18 posted on 03/30/2010 6:44:19 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: sweetb

No one is holding Israel back...Israel is holding itself back.

Israel has come to realize that short of using tactical nukes, Iran’s nuclear program is far enough along that they can not stop it or inhibit the inevitable. Iran will be a nuclear fact (i.e.: a nuclear armed Iran) between 2011 and 2015.


19 posted on 03/30/2010 8:43:40 PM PDT by cranked
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To: sweetb

Gabi Ashkenazi, the IDF Chief of General Staff, is the author of this piece?

This article also appears to be premium content ($) and as such, shouldn’t be posted?


20 posted on 03/31/2010 9:08:57 PM PDT by Moe Tzadik
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