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Former Senate GOP leader Frist questions health care lawsuits
Legal Newsline ^ | 4-16-09

Posted on 04/16/2010 11:42:54 PM PDT by legalwatch

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To: grumpygresh

“It would for example under-tax those in MS compared to CT because the average income is less in MS than CT.”
Correction: over-tax those in MS compared to CT


61 posted on 04/17/2010 7:00:17 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: saganite

it may, and then again it may not.


62 posted on 04/17/2010 7:10:24 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: montanajoe

The same line of argument could be used to dictate everybody’s food.


63 posted on 04/17/2010 7:43:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: montanajoe
Taxing someone based on their choice of lifestyle is something that many laws do..

To date, only action could bring about such a tax. Action such as purchasing liquor or tobacco. For the first time, inaction is being used as the basis of a tax.

64 posted on 04/17/2010 7:47:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: montanajoe

are you a constitutional attorney?


65 posted on 04/17/2010 10:34:21 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The PLANTATION Party is at it again (the DEMS) ....trying to make slaves of everyone)
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To: Theodore R.
The list of TN disappointments is long: Gore, Sr., Gore, Jr., Brock, Baker, Kefauver, Ellington, Sasser; even Frist and Alexander were not that good. And Fred Thompson left early.

Fred was in way over his head as a senator. He would have made a great TN attorney general that was as far up in government as he ever needed to go. Politically he was a McCainite. His handling as committee chairman of the hearing on Clinton was very disappointing if not down right disgusting on his part. He went from "Let the chips fall where they may" to "Don't name no names". Added to that a "Not Guilty" vote for Bill Clinton. In short Fred's Senate career was pathetic.

I'll never understand the Fred for Prez craze in here. He couldn't handle himself nor have enough backbone needed as a senator why would anyone think he could be a good POTUS?

To his credit he helped rid Tennessee of an all time worse criminal governor. He likely indirectly prevented one as bad a Blanton from taking his place because of the attention given the office.

66 posted on 04/17/2010 1:52:24 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: crz

“The word “regulate” means to “make regular.”

So in other words..they may not pass a bill that forces an individual to purchase a good to support another.:

One would think. But they passed the bill anyway and we will see what the Supremes have to say about it. If they approve this, then we have no viable constitution left to defend, and changes will have to be made to our society at large, hopefully through the ballot box.


67 posted on 04/17/2010 3:21:11 PM PDT by flaglady47 (We will have our revenge one day, sooner than later.....)
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To: BobL; montanajoe

To those that think it impossible to overturn this monstrosity, it took 10 years of fighting to put the brakes on McCain/Finegold and decades fighting for the right to bear arms. Anything can be undone if people have the will to continue fighting...A lot of times it is how within the law the opposition poses their argument. Frist was a poor majority leader and hasn’t changed since he left the senate. But he is rich in moolah...


68 posted on 04/17/2010 6:43:48 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: cva66snipe

It is hard to imagine anyone being more “in over his head” for the office he holds than the current occupant of the WO. I am not from TN but the impression I always had of Fred is that he became frustrated with how thing are done in Congress and came to consider it a waste of time in the current political climate.


69 posted on 04/18/2010 3:37:08 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30:19: "..I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore chose life..")
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To: srmorton
Whatever his reasons he seemed bored and inattentive during the senate hearings. But like I said his Not Guilty Vote sealed it. If anyone in the senate had the legal knowledge in how to bring down Clinton it was him. Fred had basically faced the Dixie Mafia when he went after Blanton. That's what was so disappointing. He didn't even seem to be trying. When he said "Let the chips fall where they may" that was the Fred Thompson who brought down a criminal governor who was selling pardons. When later he said "Don't name no names" I knew it was over and Fred lost interest.

I think his 2008 run for POTUS was nothing more than to help elect his friend John McCain. Fred distracted votes away from those running against McCain while their funds ran out. His 2008 campaign like his senate career was at best a yawn. IOW I don't think that beyond running interference for McCain in the primaries he was interested in being POTUS. Politically Thompson was like McCain. The Fred Hype was wishful thinking on a lot of peoples part who had very short term memory as well.

70 posted on 04/18/2010 10:34:08 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: legalwatch

Of course not. Lawsuits are only for leftist causes - like snail darters, or slavery reparations. They’re not for making sure that the founding document of our country, the constitution, is followed in letter and spirit.


71 posted on 04/18/2010 10:36:54 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: montanajoe

“They will argue, successfully in my view, that everyone is free to decide if they want to purchase health insurance or pay the tax”

If so, then there literally is no limit to federal power. What’s to stop feds from giving you a choice between buying a GM car or paying a tax? Eating a government-prescribed diet or paying a tax? Engaging in government-required calisthenics every morning or paying a tax?

The mere fact it is structured as a tax doesn’t make it constitutional, nor does the fact that health insurance (sometimes) crosses state lines and hence is part of interstate commerce.


72 posted on 04/18/2010 12:37:46 PM PDT by DrC
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To: cva66snipe

That’s true about the hearings, but I think Huckabee (who makes my skin crawl) is the one who really helped McCain by staying in the race as long as he did. I did not know enough about Fred’s political career in Tennessee (although I am right next door in NC) to know that he had helped to bring down a governor. Thanks for the info!


73 posted on 04/18/2010 8:40:03 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30:19: "..I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore chose life..")
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To: srmorton
If you ever get a chance watch the movie "Marie". Marie was the Corrections Commissioner during former governor Blanton's term. Her boyfriend was likely murdered by ones involved in the Cash for clemency scandal. This was early 1980's events. People paid Blanton cash and he pardoned them. Thus his nickname "Pardon Me Ray". A few of his pardoned killers freedom was short lived as they killed again.

Fred Thompson was Marie's defense lawyer. Basically Blanton and cronies tried to lay the blame on her and she was in fact innocent. Thompson was the one who took the governor and his illicit businesses down in court. IIRC Lamar Alexander was sworn in as governor early because they feared Blanton would pardon more before he left office. A Wiki search on Ray Blanton should give you most the details.

74 posted on 04/18/2010 8:52:26 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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