Skip to comments.Stephen Hawking Says Aliens Exist... But Are They an End-Times Deception?
Posted on 04/24/2010 5:48:57 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle
Interesting thoughts on "aliens" by Stephen Hawking. Question - Is it possible that "aliens" are really just a demonic deception that will be revealed in the last days to lead us astray?
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Lets just hope they don’t think we’re the demonic deception.
If they do, we’re screwed.
If they really do exist, a lot of other things are screwed as well.
I remember one religious person theorizing that the reason that aliens all had the same body type is because the aliens weren’t really from outerspace, but demons and the bodies were merely their shells.
As for abductions and experiments, well, I don’t know what to think of that stuff.
I’ve never been a fan of Stephen Hawking. I’ve always had the impression that he’s one of these modern day mad geniuses that is so smart, that he’s literally gone “out of orbit”, and left reality behind.
In time, maybe he’ll create some mathematical formula that enables mankind to build faster-than-lightspeed ships, which will make it possible for us to colonize far-away earth-like planets. Perhaps.
In the meantime, he’s been a tenured professor for something like 30 years or more, and as far as I know, he’s never produced anything of practical value for society, but has been lauded endlessly as the successor to Einstein.
Has the man ever earned that accolade? I don’t know that he has.
Yep, and they will shed their human skin to reveal their reptilian one.
I have read several alien abduction stories, and other encounters with aliens. I don’t know where spielberg got his idea for a nice cute loving alien because he certainly didn’t get it from people who believe they have had encounters. In all of the stories I have read the aliens are simply cruel, treating humans like we might treat mice or guinea pigs.
If aliens exist I would say they are evil, and so would go with the demon label. However, if one asked me to take him to “my leader”, I would have no problem giving him Obama’s address.
He says aliens exist, but that a supernatural God with whom humans can have a personal relationship “seems most implausible”. Hmmm.
Well, he didn't rule out the possibility of a Supreme Being, but it's just one man's thoughts.
Hawking is welcome to whatever theories of the supernatural float his boat. Just like any other person. I just don't think that I'll be buying stock in most of them.
I do agree with him, however, that there are other intelligent species in the universe. It can't be otherwise. It's been calculated that if you took every grain of sand on every beach in the world, and counted them all, you wouldn't have as many grains of sand as there are stars in the universe.
That's an incomprehensible number. Understand also that many of those stars have planets orbiting them, which is an even bigger number.
In my view, the universe is literally teeming with life, though I have little but reasoning and logic to support that view.
This is the same Hawking who came up with the goofy theory of multiple “parallel universes” without a shred of evidence to back it up for the sole reason that he couldn’t accept the fact that the anthropic principle points unerringly to a creator of the universe.
I do not think they would bother him, after he show them his 666 birthmark on the back of his scalp.
However, if one asked me to take him to my leader, I would have no problem giving him Obamas address.
“He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldnt want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”
It seems Hawking has mistaken watching recent Sci-Fi out of Hollywood for research.
These guys - Sagan, Hawking, they pull numbers out of their wazoo and then claim it is “rational” to be certain of something. As smart as some of these guys claim to be, none seem to want to admit that they have no idea if they are off by a factor of 10, 100, or 1,000,000++ with their mathematical estimates.
Then Hawking’s mathematical mind doesn’t address the impossibly vast distances and times that any intelligent aliens would have to conquer to even make us aware of them.
The mathematical fact is that even if you believe there are millions of intelligent alien civilizations out there, it is so highly unlikely that we’d even detect them, much less be visited by them - friendly or not.
I’m surprised otherwise rational folks can even pretend to be be serious about this topic.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
The guy sits around dreaming up fantastic theories, none of which have any practical application, yet he's adored and worshiped as the ultimate high guru of physics.
I'll bet that a lot of hard-working physicists have their own thoughts about that.
Why would demons bother to create the illusion of flying saucers, grays, LGMs, etc.? Seems like a waste of everyone’s energy.
“In my view, the universe is literally teeming with life, though I have little but reasoning and logic to support that view. “
In this point, you are in complete alignment with Hawking. But you at least recognize the actual vastness of the problem and have the humility to admit there is no way to actually know the answer to the alien life question.
I just watched about an hour of clips from NASA missions where they filmed objects in space which clearly changed trajectory in mid-flight, cast shadows on the moon, were detected by ground-based telemetry, and exhibited other strange behavior, such as matching the exact speed and direction of our spacecraft before moving off.
In some of these clips, the astronauts can be heard having conversations with the ground controllers about these objects. Many times, the word "visitors" was used to describe them by both crew and controllers.
There's a video of Edgar Mitchell, famous astronaut, talking about the fact that he and every other astronaut of the Apollo and Gemini missions observed strange, unknown craft operating in their mission vicinities.
He goes on to say that there's no question that earth is under constant surveillance by extraterrestrials, and that governments all over the world are hiding this fact.
“I do agree with him, however, that there are other intelligent species in the universe.”
I agree, but I do not think we have ever been, or will be visited.
I know that you kook to kook AM fans get your panties in a twist over that, but it is only my opinion.
Keep in mind, the nearest star that could have planets with life is 11 light years away, baring some unknown law of physics that relate to parallel universes...oh, whatever....
I think this is an excellent article on the subject.
On a purely personal note, I can’t help thinking we should do our best to find intelligent life on Earth before we start worrying about finding aliens from outer space.
He says the tiny black holes that might come from CERN will evaporate (”Hawking Radiation”) and are nothing to worry about. Or maybe not.
With the universe as old as it is (13.75 ±0.17 billion years old), were star-travel possible, it would have been done ten thousand times, or so, by now in our galaxy alone. It hasn't, so it won't. (Implies it CAN'T...)
The election of obama indicates all high tech civilizations are suicidal.
For me, simple reason and logic dictate that I must accept that there can't be but only one planet in the entire universe that supports intelligent life.
As far as whether "they're" here or not, there's a mountain of evidence to support the notion that they are. Having never witnessed them firsthand myself, I tend to believe the decades worth of reports I've seen.
Again, reason and logic tell me that all of those reports can't be false. There are just too many of them, and many come from extremely reliable, and highly qualified witnesses. Then there's the photographic evidence, radar signatures, ground impressions, radiation readings, etc. There's simply too much of it to ignore.
Here's another one... remember ALH 84001, the Mars meteorite that was found in Antarctica back in 1996? To this day, I believe that that rock contains microscopic fossils of once-living creatures.
It's a big universe, and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of it yet. There are lifetimes worth of incredible discoveries to come.
What the heck is that? A crystalline life form?
Why does everyone who wants to have an intelligent conversation about this subject have to get thrown in with the bug-eyed lunatics and true believers?
Can't a person reach their own conclusions based on their own observations and reasoned analysis?
Gee, that makes me all warm and fuzzy.
The present US regime must be filled with aliens given the level of deception that flows out of WDC these days.
What if the aliens planted “End Times Prophecies” in ancient religions to thwart and confuse humanity because their timeline for taking over the planet was thousand of years in the future?
Fair enough, but I wonder if his theories about black holes have ever been proven? If he's responsible for an honest breakthrough in that area, then he deserves the accolades for it.
With the universe as old as it is (13.75 ±0.17 billion years old), were star-travel possible, it would have been done ten thousand times, or so, by now in our galaxy alone. It hasn't, so it won't.
Ah...but you're proceeding from the postulate that "it's never been done", which you cannot prove. Many believe that it has, and that star travel has been going on for millions of years throughout the cosmos.
Neither one of those propositions can be proven conclusively at present, so we're left with the lingering question, aren't we?
“Can’t a person reach their own conclusions based on their own observations and reasoned analysis?’
Of course they can.
I was referring to the kooks that see ET on every street corner, and claim to see flying saucers every day.
I was being sarcastic. I’m a Christian, but I get a bit exasperated when my coreligionists sometimes attribute anything inconvenient to demons, from dinosaurs to ET visitors to some of the findings of science.
After the thousands of years we've had to progress, it's not looking like we've gotten very far.
Indeed, lately, I'm thinking some of our previous civilizations may have been further along than we are mow - I'm not sure we aren't REgressing.
“Why would demons bother to create the illusion of flying saucers, grays, LGMs, etc.? Seems like a waste of everyones energy.”
Here’s a few reasons, prefaced by this thought - we know what’s coming:
“For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Matthew 24:24 (NKJV)
1. The “New Age” is very open to the idea of “ascended spiritual masters” and are very open about their belief in alien life forms, frequently claiming contact with them, as well as claiming that these aliens are pointing us towards global unity, global government, environmentalism and earth worship, while also saying that the aliens haven’t contacted us openly yet because we’re “not ready” yet. Frequently they cite Christianity and nationalism as the limiting factors in raising the “vibration” of life here in Earth.
2. In order for the globalists and new agers to fully take charge of Earth, as we know they are destined to do for a time (if you read your Bible), they have to get some serious credibility from somewhere.
3. The emergence of “alien” life forms would be a great vehicle to do that, as they would be viewed as immediate authorities, and many people have been conditioned (like some of the posters right here on this thread” to see “aliens” as superior to us in technological, intellectual, and even spiritual matters. If these “aliens” pointed us all towards the global government and a “new age” many would follow.
4. A demonic ability to transcend space and time in the spiritual realm could be easily explained as “advanced technology” as could all their supernatural abilities.
5. Since they come from another world - one without Jesus - we could assume that the emergence of “aliens” would be seen as supreme evidence disproving biblical Christianity and creation. They may even claim to BE gods - the ones who created us. Or they may claim to be further “evolved” than we are - thereby disproving the existence of God for many.
Those are just a few thoughts. There is more than just a little speculation involved, but it seems like the pieces would fit. It seems to me that the last thing a demon would appear as would be a demon. What could be better than a super-evolved, altruistic, mystic alien race to guide us away from God’s word?... I’m just sayin’
Now where did I put my tin foil hat?
Great article, though I only skimmed a few sections in between posts. One of the better, more reasoned analyses that I’ve seen lately.
that’a been my thinging -
Ok. It sounded as though you were denouncing any and everyone who wanted to talk about this.
I also have no patience for kooks.
Well he does have that cool voice box thing.
What is your own comment? And who the hell is ECR? And why should I navigate to some teenager’s Facebook to get more? Geez.
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