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More birth-certificate mumbo jumbo
World Net Daily ^ | May 8, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/08/2010 12:48:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Has any birth certificate in the history of the world been discussed and debated more than Barack Obama's?

I don't think so.

Yet, nearly every time it is discussed or debated, the public becomes more confused, mystified, curious and certain they are being deliberately deceived.

The latest entry into this circus is Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle. You would think the governor of Hawaii would be an expert on the subject of Barack Obama's birth certificate by now. But her public comments suggest she is either abjectly ignorant or an active component of a disinformation campaign.

Lingle told a New York talk show Obama was born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu. But she offered no evidence to back it up and has also claimed she has never seen the document.

She claims her office issued a press release stating the birth hospital during the 2008 campaign. But no such release was ever published, and this is the first time any government official has claimed Kapi'olani as the birth hospital.

The birth certificate has been withheld from the public ostensibly by Hawaiian officials who claim releasing information about Obama's birth would be a violation of the state's laws. Yet, Lingle herself just apparently violated that law by releasing information she claims is in that secret document.

But perhaps most remarkable about Lingle's cavalier, dismissive public statement is the fact that even Kapi'olani Hospital has been unwilling to make the unequivocal assertion it is the birthplace of Barack Obama. WND has recounted in detail Kapi'olani's attempts to have its cake and it eat, too: Using Obama's name to raise funds for the facility, but refusing to confirm or deny that he was actually born there.

In other words, it's more mumbo jumbo from another Hawaii official.(continued)

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue
Mystifying if there's nothing to it. Which makes me (and millions of other Americans) think that there is. Who spends millions hiding everything about their life previous to 2004 for no reason?
1 posted on 05/08/2010 12:48:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only thing I can think of is that it was designed to provoke interest precisely because she can’t back it up. It reminds me of a scene from The Big Sleep:

Philip Marlowe: You wanna tell me now?

Vivian: Tell you what?

Philip Marlowe: What it is you’re trying to find out. You know, it’s a funny thing. You’re trying to find out what your father hired me to find out, and I’m trying to find out why you want to find out.

Vivian: You could go on forever, couldn’t you?


2 posted on 05/08/2010 12:58:28 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>"Lingle told a New York talk show Obama was born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu. "

Well that's clear as mud!

3 posted on 05/08/2010 1:18:29 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It gets crazier every day.
I remember seeing, on the internet, a letter from Obambie to Kapiolani, recognizing it as his birthplace.
Suddenly, however, the letter was disavowed and claimed to be a forgery.
I never saw it again, and Kapiolani does not seem to be celebrating the event.
I have said that Obozo’s best out would be to claim a home birth, therefore, no REAL birth certificate as issued in a hospital and recorded by the state.
The mystery continues, and no one has yet to see a real birth certificate.
If one exist, what could be so incriminating? Name of father? date of birth? who knows?


4 posted on 05/08/2010 1:29:29 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does not matter where he was born, his father was not a citizen of USA. He was British and can not be President.


5 posted on 05/08/2010 1:40:13 AM PDT by jarofants
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To: rawcatslyentist

She’s sharp as a marble.


6 posted on 05/08/2010 1:41:14 AM PDT by jarofants
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There sure is a whole like of shaking going on about Obama’s birth certificate.

Remember when the MSM told us that no one cared??

7 posted on 05/08/2010 1:53:35 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It Matters Not What You Fight But What You Fight For.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Mainstream media: Tens of millions doubt Obama eligibility
Washington Post/ABC affirms 1 in 7 Dems believe he was born in another country
8 posted on 05/08/2010 2:01:14 AM PDT by jarofants
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To: jarofants

Remember when?


9 posted on 05/08/2010 2:02:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It Matters Not What You Fight But What You Fight For.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lingle certainly didn’t put the issue to rest.


10 posted on 05/08/2010 3:42:30 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: jarofants

Rush should hit this on Monday. Mark Levin, Steve Malzberg and Hannity should all hit this hard so that it gets coverage. We are on to something and it is going to come out sometime. As that CanadaFreePress article stated last week, I am starting to think that everybody knows the truth; they just won’t report it.


11 posted on 05/08/2010 3:43:28 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: rambo316

... it won’t be reported because it will be devastating.

Think about it. This commie is picking people to the highest court in the land signing laws and this will all mean nothing if the truth is ever known.


12 posted on 05/08/2010 3:46:51 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: rambo316

It won’t be devastating. THe Brown Shirt Media has already decided it isn’t important. If they say it isn’t important, it isn’t. We all know the truth, his father was British.


13 posted on 05/08/2010 3:55:33 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are all frightened of the race riots that will ensue if the Kenyan is outed.

Americans bought his line thinking that electing a black would end racial problems in America, instead it has worsened them.


14 posted on 05/08/2010 4:17:00 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
obama; birth certificate; obama secret

The entire Main Stream Media is giving Barack a pass on his birth records. If we could just get him to switch to the Republican party and put an (R) beside his name the media would have his original birth documents within 10 minutes of that switch!!

15 posted on 05/08/2010 4:46:10 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: AlexWall
I have said that Obozo’s best out would be to claim a home birth, therefore, no REAL birth certificate as issued in a hospital and recorded by the state.

That's probably what it is, but it wouldn't be an "out," instead, it would be an opening for far more trouble..

To get there you need to start with the Hawaiian law at the time. It provided that an individual could either get a "Certificate of Live Birth" (the formal term the State of Hawaii actually applies, and applied, to the long form original birth certificate issued for each birth and which I hereafter refer to as the "Certificate") either by having the hospital prepare it or by having one of the child's parents prepare it and send it in, if the child was not born in a hospital. If a single parent prepared and sent in a Certificate, that parent would not have to obtain any certification or other corroborating evidence that the child actually was born in Hawaii; the State would just take the parent's word. Naturally a grandparent, like Madelyn Dunham, could easily forge a single parent Certificate, send it in, and have it duly filed as her grand son's "Certificate of Live Birth.".

A single parent Certificate having been forged and duly filed, everything else would fall into place without need for any additional frauds. Obama's single parent Certificate would be his real Certificate and the original, primary record of his birth. Thus, by the computer geek's GEIGO principle, all of the secondary records, such as the newspaper birth announcements and Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" would flow automatically and, apparently, accurately, being based on the fraudulent Certificate.

The original Certificate, however, would open a huge can of worms for Obama, since he, his shills, accomplices, and enablers have always claimed he was born either at Queens Hospital or Kapiolani Hospital, never that he was born outside of a hospital. His single parent Certificate being revealed, the questions would be why it wasn't revealed in the first place, whether Stanley Ann Dunham or Madelyn Dunham actually signed it, and where he was actually born.

My hypothesis is he was born in Kenya, Madelyn Dunham forged a single parent Certificate for him, and that fraudulent Certificate has ever since been used to generate accurate, but fake, secondary documents to "prove" he's a natural born American. So far nobody, not even a FR Troll, has persuasively refuted this hypothesis. I invite any FR Troll, and Obama shill, who reads this post, to try.

16 posted on 05/08/2010 7:02:23 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: AlexWall
I have said that Obozo’s best out would be to claim a home birth, therefore, no REAL birth certificate as issued in a hospital and recorded by the state.

That's probably what it is, but it wouldn't be an "out," instead, it would be an opening for far more trouble.

To get there you need to start with the Hawaiian law at the time. It provided that an individual could either get a "Certificate of Live Birth" (the formal term the State of Hawaii actually applies, and applied, to the long form original birth certificate issued for each birth and which I hereafter refer to as the "Certificate") either by having the hospital prepare it or, if the child was not born in a hospital, by having one of the child's parents prepare it and send it in. If a single parent prepared and sent in a Certificate, that parent would not have to obtain any certification or other corroborating evidence that the child actually was born in Hawaii; the State would just take the parent's word. Naturally a grandparent, like Madelyn Dunham, could easily forge a single parent Certificate, send it in, and have it duly filed as her grand son's "Certificate of Live Birth."

A single parent Certificate having been forged and duly filed, everything else would fall into place without need for any additional frauds. Obama's single parent Certificate would be his real Certificate and the original, primary record of his birth. Thus, by the computer geek's GEIGO principle, all of the secondary records, such as the newspaper birth announcements and Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" would flow automatically and, apparently, accurately, being based on the fraudulent Certificate.

The original Certificate, however, would open a huge can of worms for Obama, since he, his shills, accomplices, and enablers, have always claimed he was born either at Queens Hospital or Kapiolani Hospital, never that he was born outside of a hospital. His single parent Certificate being revealed, the questions would be why it wasn't revealed in the first place, whether Stanley Ann Dunham or Madelyn Dunham actually signed it, and where he was actually born.

My hypothesis is he was born in Kenya, Madelyn Dunham forged a single parent Certificate for him, and that fraudulent Certificate has ever since been used to generate accurate, but fake, secondary documents to "prove" he's a natural born American. So far nobody, not even a FR Troll, has persuasively refuted this hypothesis. I invite any FR Troll, and Obama shill, who reads this post, to try.

17 posted on 05/08/2010 7:11:09 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Linda Lingle and her health director will one day face that unavoidable question:

"Were you lying then or are you lying now and why should we believe you?"

18 posted on 05/08/2010 9:42:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boycott Hawaii!!! < :D


19 posted on 05/08/2010 10:58:00 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Full body scans show nips & belly buttons & units, but the TSA doesn't want you to know that.)
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To: AlexW
I have said that Obozo’s best out would be to claim a home birth, therefore, no REAL birth certificate as issued in a hospital and recorded by the state.

The law requires a BC to be filed even for a home birth. It's the same form as a hospital would use. But instead of a hospital name, there would be the address or other description of the location. Instead of a doctor's signature, there would be the name and signature of a witness to the birth, say the grandmother. There would be nothing in the fields for the hospital registrar to sign, nor the date it was filed with that registrar. It's filing would generate the same sort of birth announcement as a hospital birht (notice that the announcement doesn't say *where* the birth occurred, just the date, parents' names, mother's address and "son" or "daughter". The CoLB would be based on that, possibly fraudulently filed, "home birth" long form. A home birth filing would explain the 8 August filed with date, but not the out of order file number on the CoLB.

20 posted on 05/08/2010 7:26:21 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: libstripper
A single parent Certificate having been forged and duly filed, everything else would fall into place without need for any additional frauds

I though so too, but there is the problem of the out of sequence file number.

21 posted on 05/08/2010 7:29:54 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: libstripper
My hypothesis is he was born in Kenya, Madelyn Dunham forged a single parent Certificate for him, and that fraudulent Certificate has ever since been used to generate accurate, but fake, secondary documents to "prove" he's a natural born American.

The constant left wing harping about "birther kooks" wanting a real birth certificate is a deliberate ploy to dumb down the meaning of NBC to birth place only.

Actually the COLB proves the Resident is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
The newspaper birth announcements, and his own book, are secondary verification of Non-NBC status.

22 posted on 05/09/2010 6:22:54 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the largest, and likely clearest image of the purported KENYAN birth certificate available. Uprezed

http://i41.tinypic.com/10opcfr.jpg

23 posted on 05/15/2010 9:38:08 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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