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McChrystal Like a Rolling Stone
The Examiner.com ^ | June 23, 2010 | Todd Kinsey

Posted on 06/23/2010 3:51:50 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey

If General McChrystal is guilty of anything it is being gullible enough to believe that allowing a journalist from a left leaning publication was a good idea. One of the things I learned during Desert Storm was that journalists do a good job cozying up to GI’s and making them feel important. After all, everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame.

None of the quotes that everyone is up-in-arms about is directly attributable to General McChrystal but his error was thinking that this journalist was going to paint his team and the military in a positive light.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: mcchrystal; obama; patraeus; rollingstone

1 posted on 06/23/2010 3:51:51 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey
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To: Todd Kinsey
I learned from my time in the military is to never trust a journalist...Tell them nothing.


2 posted on 06/23/2010 3:56:43 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Todd Kinsey

This is not about McChrystal!

It’s about a Henpecked Bitch in the White House that can’t handle it; and the only ass he seems to be able to kick is one the people’s servants.


3 posted on 06/23/2010 3:57:21 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: ntmxx

You so right. Obama can not be angry at hs coons so take it out on a man that loves his country. By the way, maybe you have notice that BO is not in love with the USA.


4 posted on 06/23/2010 4:00:43 PM PDT by mendedheart
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To: Todd Kinsey

‘McChrystal but his error was thinking that this journalist was going to paint his team and the military in a positive light.’-———————Right, when EVER did a lefty put our military in a good light?


5 posted on 06/23/2010 4:01:14 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: darkwing104

George Will..rules of engagement

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/7062168.html


6 posted on 06/23/2010 4:02:16 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Todd Kinsey

I think McChrystal is guilty of more than naivete - the article was sent to him in advance and he approved it. One could call that a lapse of judgment, but I doubt it. I think he knew just what he was doing. Now it’s Petraeus who will have the albatross of Afghanistan hung around his neck. Obama certainly would never have taken the responsibility for the failure to come.

It’s hilarious to read the lefties’ praise of Petraeus, who just a short time ago was called a liar and General Betrayus.

One last comment - if McChrystal, indeed, is the author of the ridiculous ROE in use in Afghanistan, he is guilty of that lapse, as well. If the ROE were dependent upon a much higher troop strength, then he should have waited until the strength was in place. He should have known what kind of military-hating weasel he was dealing with.


7 posted on 06/23/2010 4:04:10 PM PDT by chickadee
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To: ntmxx
We are going to hear more from McChrystal, he is a warrior.

These ROE's were not his, but Obombus! Lets win this war!!, but don't hurt anyone doing it...spit!

8 posted on 06/23/2010 4:09:23 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: chickadee

i can see your point but i want to add imho, ALL of this is going to bite that pospotus sitting in contempt of the WH in the azzz


9 posted on 06/23/2010 4:17:04 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: Todd Kinsey

Now that McCrystal has resigned, I wonder how many more of our military men and women will resign or retire soon? I guess we will never know, but I’m sure many are thinking about it.


10 posted on 06/23/2010 4:30:17 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: chickadee
"I think McChrystal is guilty of more than naivete - the article was sent to him in advance and he approved it."

Disagree.

McChrystal did this on purpose; for a reason to resign. Afghan is going back to hell when Obama starts pulling out troops in a year and he won't be the one holding THAT bag.

11 posted on 06/23/2010 4:30:35 PM PDT by BobS
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To: darkwing104

Exactly my point... Nice avatar.


12 posted on 06/23/2010 5:15:23 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: BobS
Afgan is/was always hell, why would we think it could be changed!?

I.e. see history of Afgan.....

13 posted on 06/23/2010 5:16:49 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: chickadee

You could be right, he may have been looking for an excuse to step down. I had the exact same thought on General Patraeus taking over. Not long ago he was the devil which is what most on the left think of those who serve their country. Hopefully in 2 years and change the nightmare will be over...


14 posted on 06/23/2010 5:19:48 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: GailA

Thanks for sharing that link. We had similar rules at points during desert storm. In fact I have pictures I took of us chasing an Iraqi armored personell carrier and while I was waiting for some REMF (rear echelon MF) to make a decision, an apache pilot lit his ass up. Scared me to death until I looked back over my shoulder.


15 posted on 06/23/2010 5:23:25 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: Todd Kinsey

Todd, your excerpt doesn’t make a whole lot of sense (they never do, which is why we hate them and only use them when required per the excerpt-only list). Since it’s your own column (I assume), can you just post the whole thing so we have some context? I think it will drive more traffic to your site in the long run, plus it won’t make you seem like you’re just here for the hits, but rather to educate and elucidate. Thanks!

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General McChrystal & President Obama
White House photo, courtesy of Pete SouzaIf General McChrystal is guilty of anything it is being gullible enough to believe that allowing a journalist from a left leaning publication was a good idea. One of the things I learned during Desert Storm was that journalists do a good job cozying up to GI’s and making them feel important. After all, everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame.

None of the quotes that everyone is up-in-arms about is directly attributable to General McChrystal but his error was thinking that this journalist was going to paint his team and the military in a positive light.

One of the remarks people are upset at is: when the president met with a dozen senior military officials in a room at the Pentagon known as the Tank. According to sources familiar with the meeting, McChrystal thought Obama looked “uncomfortable and intimidated” by the roomful of military brass.

Having served in the military for five years, I do not doubt that this statement is true. I have had the opportunity to meet many politicians and none of them carry the aura that high ranking military men do, period. Again the general’s team was naïve and should have never made this remark to the media.

Trust me; President Obama is being criticized at every level of the military; from lower ranking enlisted men to the highest ranks in the officer corps. How do I know this? From my own experience and the fact that soldiers are world class complainers. There’s also the little fact that according to a Military Times poll only 8% of the armed forces consider themselves liberal. Fortunately conservatives continue to defend their rights and protect their freedom.

The other part of the Rolling Stone article that has drawn fire is another statement from someone on the general’s staff. Their first one-on-one meeting took place in the Oval Office four months later, after McChrystal got the Afghanistan job, and it didn’t go much better. “It was a 10-minute photo op,” says an adviser to McChrystal. “Obama clearly didn’t know anything about him, who he was. Here’s the guy who’s going to run his f’ing war, but he didn’t seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty disappointed.”

Again this statement shouldn’t have been made to the media, however, I can certainly understand the general’s angst at having his time wasted. Probably the number on complaint of soldiers is about time being wasted, the old adage of hurry up and wait.

Undoubtedly President Obama wanted to look like he’s making a stand on National defense. What looks more presidential than conferring with generals? Of course everyone knows he’s just playing tough. I agree general McChrystal should step down and that this was a serious lapse in judgment on his part.

Good luck General Petraeus!


16 posted on 06/23/2010 5:27:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Todd Kinsey

Okay, your article looks a bit rushed and could have used some editing, but I get the point. The General was gullible. I think that has been long established, though, when he voted for 0. (At least that’s what I’ve heard; correct me if I’m wrong).


17 posted on 06/23/2010 5:34:09 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: norraad

McChrystal is not going to be the general to lose the effort and the war now. Petraeus will also resign if he doesn’t get what he needs.


18 posted on 06/23/2010 5:35:12 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS

If I were Petraeus, I’ll resign by Christmas if I don’t get what I need.


19 posted on 06/23/2010 5:41:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Larry Lucido

Thanks for the advice Larry, I will do that on future posts. I am relatively new to the blogosphere and Michael Zak contacted me after seeing an article here that someone else posted and suggested I post my stuff here.

And yes, according to the Rolling Stone article General McChrystal did indeed vote for Obama. I was quite suprised when I read this given his background as a special forces operator. There aren’t many liberals in that walk of life.


20 posted on 06/23/2010 5:49:56 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: Todd Kinsey

Hmm, well one of things I learned from Desert Storm is that if that if General Norman Schwarzkopf had been allowed to continue to go into Bahgdad and capture Hussein, (like he wanted to and talked about in an interview back then) we would not be having this discussion today....

END OF STORY.


21 posted on 06/23/2010 6:01:00 PM PDT by khnyny (Worst US environmental disaster EVER - BP Oil Spill in the Gulf - Obama's Fault!!!)
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To: khnyny
if General Norman Schwarzkopf had been allowed to continue to go into Bahgdad and capture Hussein, (like he wanted to and talked about in an interview back then) we would not be having this discussion today....

And if McArthur had been allowed to "take care of business"...

22 posted on 06/23/2010 6:15:07 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: Todd Kinsey; Larry Lucido
And yes, according to the Rolling Stone article General McChrystal did indeed vote for Obama. I was quite suprised when I read this given his background as a special forces operator. There aren’t many liberals in that walk of life

The question I have is McC's vote indicative of disgust with the Bush Administration's handling of the war? I agree that there aren't many liberals but my experience is also that most senior military don't suffer fools gladly - be they D or R. (I'm not saying W was a fool. I'm asking about McC's state of mind re his vote.)

Semper Fi,

TS

23 posted on 06/23/2010 6:21:33 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: The Shrew
McChrystal said he voted for Obama, people can say whatever they want - that doesn't necessarily make it true.
24 posted on 06/23/2010 6:40:19 PM PDT by khnyny (Worst US environmental disaster EVER - BP Oil Spill in the Gulf - Obama's Fault!!!)
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To: The Shrew; Todd Kinsey

Good points. I’ll be watching to see what he does in the future.


25 posted on 06/23/2010 6:47:22 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Todd Kinsey

It is STUPID beyond measure to ‘handcuff’ our Troops in harms way. And to try them as criminals when they have to defend themselves. I am thankful you made it back alive.

Thank you for your service.
BTW I’m a retired Senior Chief’s wife, and I want the best for our Military. Not this marxist who thinks their health care cost to much and can only come up with a cheesy 1.9% pay raise for men and women who are risking their lives daily.

My dad (who earned a Bronze Star) is probably rolling over in his grave over this crap. While he was not career Military, he did his 6 yrs in WW2. Put the US Flag back up on “The Rock” under sniper fire when MacArthur retook it. http://corregidor.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=history&action=print&thread=503


26 posted on 06/24/2010 6:04:41 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: GailA

Thanks Gail.


27 posted on 06/24/2010 9:09:37 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: Todd Kinsey; Larry Lucido

Zak was using FR to hawk his books. What’s his new FR handle? He went thru a couple of them


28 posted on 07/14/2010 10:51:19 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

Here’s the one I use: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=595700420&ref=ts

He’s very good about returning email as well: grand_old_partisan@hotmail.com


29 posted on 07/14/2010 12:31:20 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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