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Robert Gates running for President in 2012?
Big Bureaucracy ^ | July 28th, 2010 | Ellie Velinska

Posted on 07/28/2010 4:31:39 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy

While President Obama is chatting with the ladies of the View the Defense Secretary Robert Gates gave yet another speech on leadership,this time in front of the crowd of 45 000 Boy Scouts at their Jamboree at Fort A.P. Hill, Va (DoD photo by Cherie Cullen):

“There are too many places in American life today without the Boy Scouting values of self-reliance, self-control, honor, integrity and morality,” Gates said. “From Wall Street to Washington to our hometowns, in all our lives there are people who seek after riches or the many kinds of power without regard to what is right or true or decent.”

The Defense Secretary is bashing Wall Street? Good for him! But why?

May be Robert Gates is considering a Presidential run in 2012? He already stated he may retire from DOD leadership position by the end of 2010, although the final decision is not announced yet. This would be a perfect timing to announce a run for Presidency, especially if the Surge in Afghanistan succeeds...

At the time when President Obama is looking for any excuse to avoid a simple trip to Indonesia – Robert Gates is traveling around the world in hot spots like South Korea.

Gates was even dis-invited from a visit to China – this is the ultimate badge of honor. Robert Gates made China throw a tantrum! It was so refreshing after watching President Obama bowing tour all around the world.

Some wonder if the massive WikiLeaks documents dump could affect a potential Gates run for President. The leaks may help the US strategy in the war in Afghanistan. How?

Imagine if the US officials keep screaming that the Pakistani government and military are corrupt – the anti-American sentiment will turn such complaints against the US. Instead the Pakistani corruption is leaked through anti-war sources – the world believes those have weight on the issue. So the Coalition forces can proceed with the hardest part of the Surge in Afghanistan, because the whole world can see – the only partner that can give us a diplomatic solution (Pakistan) is corrupt and playing a double game.

OK – this is just a conspiracy theory, but Robert Gates made his career in the CIA, so why not?


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; boyscouts; myblog; robertgates

1 posted on 07/28/2010 4:31:41 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Romney/Gates 2012: Four more years for King Barry!!


2 posted on 07/28/2010 4:33:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

I get the sense that there is great division between Gates and Obama behind the scenes. Same for Obama and Petraus and Obama and McCrystal.


3 posted on 07/28/2010 4:34:46 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

You’re joking right? This guy even give milquetoasts a bad name.


4 posted on 07/28/2010 4:35:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of Romney’s 5 boys went to serve - this is something that does not go well the folks during a war time.


5 posted on 07/28/2010 4:36:19 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

no thanks


6 posted on 07/28/2010 4:37:36 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Maybe he can shoehorn fags into the Scouts like he’s trying to do to the military


7 posted on 07/28/2010 4:40:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Hahahahaha...NFW.


8 posted on 07/28/2010 4:40:23 PM PDT by jessduntno (Each day, I await a fresh insult to America by this usurper...he never fails to deliver.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He is giving speeches recently that feels like he is going rogue and distancing himself from Washington. On the other hand who isn’t? Everybody today wants to stay away from the culture there.


9 posted on 07/28/2010 4:40:38 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Finally a few names are appearing besides the ones from times past that maybe thrown into the mix. Didn’t the Ford Exec’s name appear the other day? Which others maybe out there that are worthy of consideration?


10 posted on 07/28/2010 4:41:29 PM PDT by deport
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To: Big Bureaucracy

No chance in hell he will be president.


11 posted on 07/28/2010 4:43:30 PM PDT by GnL
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Gates ain’t runnin’ If he were taking on an incumbent Dem, I might vote for him for Congress. That’s about the only good thing I can say about him.


12 posted on 07/28/2010 4:43:49 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Big Bureaucracy

What are you talking about? Mitt’s sons served by campaigning for their dad.

Just ask him:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/08/politics/main3147321.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_3147321


13 posted on 07/28/2010 4:44:23 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound

I remember the excuse. That was so weak!


14 posted on 07/28/2010 4:47:39 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Gates is a professional bureaucrat and not a politician.


15 posted on 07/28/2010 4:48:05 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He knows how to work the bureaucracy to get power to get the things done.


16 posted on 07/28/2010 4:50:25 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
I'm not impressed with Mr. Gates. He's no Donald Rumsfeld.


17 posted on 07/28/2010 4:51:28 PM PDT by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin for ya?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

the two seem interchangeable these days.


18 posted on 07/28/2010 4:52:48 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Big Bureaucracy

lulz, puuullleeeezzzeee..... =.=


19 posted on 07/28/2010 4:53:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Thunder90

Of course there’s a division between Gates and Obama. Gates stands for everything Obama is not.

I saw another poster call Gates “milquetoast.” Don’t let the voice or short stature fool you. This guy has a stiff backbone. Those who’ve been close to him know he’s one more than willing to take on problems and fix them.

Could it be that Obama is one of them? Gates knows the inside. He knows where the skeletons lie.

As for speaking at the Boy Scout Jamboree, he’s an Eagle.


20 posted on 07/28/2010 4:54:02 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Brilliant

Why is he bashing Wall Street in front of the Boy Scouts?


21 posted on 07/28/2010 4:54:42 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: McGruff

Gates doesn’t impress me either.


22 posted on 07/28/2010 4:55:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jedidah

I agree with Jedidah. However bashing Washington DC and Wall Street: sounds like a campaign speech.


23 posted on 07/28/2010 4:57:34 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Gates didn’t want the job to start with, took it only because W needed him. And I don’t think he wanted to stay on when Obama took office, but has been standing in the gap for us the past year and a half.

Gates has a strong sense of duty. He left Washington once, and only went back because he was needed. Keep in mind that the surge in Iraq was on his watch and after he told Congress that things were in a stalemate there.

Don’t know how much longer he can take it. Maybe if we can flip Congress, they can demand a good replacement in exchange for confirmation.

I do not think he will run, but wouldn’t it be good to once again have a grownup in charge?


24 posted on 07/28/2010 5:02:02 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You’re joking right? This guy even give milquetoasts a bad name.

Bullsh!t!

If the scuttlebutt is accurate, Gates has hunkered down at Defense to protect our military men and women from Obama. How can that be accomplished without some significant political maneuvering (much of which might appear as you suggest--milquetoasty)?

25 posted on 07/28/2010 5:03:46 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Satan's greatest trick is convincing some men he doesn't exist!)
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To: GnL

Obama is a proof - anybody can be President. Can’t be worse. While Obama is chatting on the View - Gates is talking in front of 45 000. Makes the Obama View appearance even more bizarre. He could have been speaking to the crowd - instead he chose Joy Behar


26 posted on 07/28/2010 5:05:49 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
Robert Gates running for President in 2012?

ROTFLMAO!

He would NEVER make it through the primaries even!

27 posted on 07/28/2010 5:05:57 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Big Bureaucracy
"May be Robert Gates is considering a Presidential run in 2012? "

Utter nonsense. It is unnecessary to post stupid speculation by the under employed.

28 posted on 07/28/2010 5:07:22 PM PDT by verity (Obama, the BS and rhetoric President)
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To: EGPWS

It depends what kind of secrets he knows from his CIA time :)


29 posted on 07/28/2010 5:09:07 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: EGPWS

Comparing with Obama and Joy Behar today - Gates looks presidential in front of the crowd. Obama missed a killer photo-op with the Scouts.


30 posted on 07/28/2010 5:12:55 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Gates legacy will be he allowed Don't Ask Don't Tell to be rescinded. I can't see how that is sticking up for the troops.
31 posted on 07/28/2010 5:16:01 PM PDT by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin for ya?)
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To: McGruff
I don't disagree...but we don't know what issues he might be facing which are more immediate than DADT (his position on DADT might be nothing more than a head fake to throw Obama off balance).

From what I hear, the military stands behind him. Not so for Obama.

Of course, I might be dead wrong. It isn't easy on the outside looking in. In fact, it isn't easy at present on the inside looking upward.

32 posted on 07/28/2010 5:24:56 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Satan's greatest trick is convincing some men he doesn't exist!)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

>> None of Romney’s 5 boys went to serve

If you’re a Romney, you’re used to BEING served.


33 posted on 07/28/2010 5:26:11 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Big Bureaucracy
Maybe Obama was afraid of being booed by the Scouts. The Secret Service could intimidate the crowd at David Letterman's show when Hillary was running for Senator, so that they wouldn't do anything to embarrass her, but thousands of Scouts might be harder to control.

If Obama did think that Gates was going to run in 2012, that would give him a reason to see to it that the surge in Afghanistan did fail...but I really doubt Gates has a 2012 run in mind.

34 posted on 07/28/2010 5:38:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Let me be intellectual honest here.

First, sorry for being so abrupt with the "bullsh!t" comment. You may be perfectly correct about the 'milquetoast' thing.

The position I posited was one grounded more in the passion of wishful thinking than fact.

But I hope like hell you are wrong and I am right (that's the source of the charge of 'bullsh!t). I really hope that there are some heroic Americans working behind the scenes to protect our military from the insidious character and actions of Obama.

And I hope Gates is one of those heroes!

35 posted on 07/28/2010 5:58:07 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Satan's greatest trick is convincing some men he doesn't exist!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

You may be right. The only thing: I don’t want to believe that somebody would cause the war to fail to hurt an opponent in elections.


36 posted on 07/28/2010 6:29:40 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Verginius Rufus

By the way: if Obama is afraid from the Boy Scouts - he should be impeached - the US has real enemies. We don’t need a chicken-in-chief.


37 posted on 07/28/2010 6:33:27 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

//We don’t need a chicken-in-chief//

But that is what we have.


38 posted on 07/28/2010 7:59:00 PM PDT by valkyry1
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