Posted on 07/31/2010 6:25:47 PM PDT by jdirt
They don't have her records before 1965 !!
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
she didnt exist before 1965? what about grandma?
"...But as everything with this family, nothing is consistent. In 1965 she (Stanley Ann) says she married Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965 in Molokai Hawaii. But in a later passport renewal application marked P5 filed in 1981 she states she married him on March 5, 1964 in Maui, Hawaii. Which is true? Either way, said marriage dates, could have allowed for Obama to have been legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii at age 5 or under given these marriage dates, and his falsified birth records in Hawaii, fraudulently created by grandma Dunham in 1961, and which could have been amended to show the new legal name of Barry Soetoro. And then Obama could have later re-amended them back to put his name back to Barack Hussein Obama II when in his life that suited him. Obama is a life narrative chameleon. He changes names and citizenship at will during his life to suit his current needs and plans."
"Also on document P2, the second page of that document, she wrote in the block named "Amend to Include (Exclude) Children" the name of her son Barack Hussein Obama and then right below it a weird name or phrase spelled and in parenthesis as (Soebarkah). This entry then has 5 diagonal line strike-through lines across the entry. Another mysterious new tidbit to research."
"When the original and complete birth records file for Obama going back to and including Aug 1961 and all subsequent amendments are released, it will likely be very damning to Obama's self created nativity narrative and other stories of his early life. Children legally adopted at age 5 and under have their new citizenship governed by the international Hague Convention Treaty on adopting children of which the USA is a signatory. That is likely why Obama alludes to his being age 6 when those Indonesian records are discussed in regards to when his step-father "adopted" him and saying that the adoption occurred in Indonesia. I think that story is more false direction and misinformation type data put out by Obama to throw one off the true trail."
Looks like the Obamanoids got there first.
(from the link)
Some Stanley Ann Dunham passport file documents are released. Passport office implies in cover letter earliest passport application no longer exists.
The earliest 1960/1961 passport application paper work information is missing from this released information. The record starts with a “RENEWAL” application filed in 1965 due her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai Hawaii on March 15, 1965 per page marked P3 of the released documents.
The carefully worded cover letter implies earlier years records have been purged for some reason. Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying.
There was obviously a passport issued to Stanley Ann (whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever.
Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro-Passport Application File-Strunk v Dept of State-FOIA Release-FINAL-7-29-10. This file indicates via the 1965 renewal application that Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama had a passport issued to her prior to 1965 and she was applying to RENEW it. Since a passport was good for 5 years that means she likely got her first passport in late 1960 of early 1961.
Why did she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii or to go to college in Seattle Washington.
What was the real reason this pregnant teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961?
I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised my the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington.
And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there with no witnesses to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961.
Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ
So, has anyone found a reference to a “Barry Soebarkah” anywhere?
Every time I write this story off, something new pops up that is very damming. The coverup is what is going to nail them. She just happened to get a passport in 1960, but they don’t have those records.
I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised my the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington.
Although I admit that this scenario sounds very plausible, it's just speculation. She could have been planning to join the Peace Corps when she was 17. Maybe her parents took her to Europe. People get passports for their children just so they'll have them.
John Brennan, obama’s current national security advisor
He has a spook background and ran a contractor company until 2009. His company’s contactors got there first - they raided the State Dept passport files in 2008
This article mirrors most of his narrative:
Just enough made public to not quite answer the question, and just enough to leave the field open for speculation/conspiracy theory/smoke and mirrors.
On the other hand, I have to tip my hat to the author for "Obama is a life narrative chameleon".
Because it reminds me of a Boy George song that included the refrain:
"Karma, karma, karma, karma, kharma chameleon..."
We can only hope.
Can I buy a clue? What happens if zero was adopted before age 5 and in the US?
yep and the only witness to that passport “cauterizing” ended up with a bullet in his head, unsolved.
Washington Times
Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot
Associated Press Saturday, April 19, 2008
A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.
Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department’s Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car.
Emergency medics pronounced him dead at the scene.
Young feller, the Peace Corps was a creation of JFK I believe, who became Pres 1/20/61 and didn’t get Peace Corps going for awhile,I’d guess.
Think, Obama has his own stuff, but this was when he was 5 or 6 years of age. His mother was much more important to the "company" at that time.
ping
Aren’t passports good for 10 years?
“Obama is a life narrative chameleon. He changes names and citizenship at will during his life to suit his current needs and plans.”
Sorry I don’t see it in that photo. Looks like a guy just walking across the street.
he is most definately an A hole.
He is most definitely a homosexual and a traitor.
Someone needs to figure this out SOON!!!
“BUT MY MAIN OBJECTION TO ADOPTING THE NPVI IS THIS: IT WILL BLOCK STATES FROM ENACTING LAWS THAT WOULD REQUIRE ELECTORS TO CAST THEIR VOTES FOR PRESIDENT ONLY FOR THOSE CANDIDATES THEY HAVE ASCERTAINED ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED FOR OFFICE, AND THE VIOLATION OF WHICH LAWS WILL BE MET WITH STEEP CRIMINAL SANCTIONS. As we here at “jbjd” have learned from experience, such laws respecting the conduct of Electors are necessary to prevent a repeat of events of the 2008 election in which Electors for the Democratic State Parties elected as President a man no documentary evidence available in the public record had established was even a citizen, let alone natural born.
Right now, no state has enacted a law requiring Electors to vote only for a President who is Constitutionally qualified for the job. “
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/npvi-by-hook-and-by-crook/
I have to agree with you. I think most of the birthers are crazy, and likely wrong about the facts, but when whatever facts do come out, I think the fallout will be about the cover up.
Maybe NOW they are, but from a bit I've read, it appears that during the 1940s-1960s, with Cold War tensions growing, the government might have kept a close eye on certain people who wanted to travel abroad, and consequently required the passport applications to be scrutinized closely, and renewed at closer intervals. The playwright Arthur Miller reportedly had problems with passport renewal, and I believe Richard Wright did also. So for that period, a passport that required review and renewal more often would seem to make sense.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1999/5/12/miller-tells-of-crucible-origins-parthur/
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/article4112123.ece
If they were planning a move to Hawaii for several years, would they have gotten passports not knowing it would become a state in 1959?
I don’t think a passport is required for a territory any more than it would be for a state.
Indonesian family name as best I can understand. I found this: Imam Soebarkah also may be Imam Subarkah
Soebarkah comes up in various search results as an Indonesian surname.
Who is Stanley Ann and why should anyone give a squat?
You’re kidding, right? Obama’s mama??
Lookee here! No passport records for SADO before 1965!!
The Hague Convention on the Protection of Children and Co-operation in Respect of Inter-Country Adoption (Hague Adoption Convention) is an international agreement to safeguard intercountry adoptions. Concluded on May 29, 1993 in The Hague, the Netherlands, the Convention establishes international standards of practices for intercountry adoptions. The United States signed the Convention in 1994, and the Convention entered into force for the United States in April 2008.
I've had one since I was 15 and I've never been out of the country.
Just sayin.
It’s a blog posted in bloggers. What’s the problem?
Would he be removed and if so by whom?
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I’ll do it.
Maybe now they do. Passenger jets were relatively new in 1960. My kids had passports at age 11 and 14 (both because they were traveling to Europe), but I didn't get my first passport until I was almost 30 years old, which was in 1976.
ML/NJ
I do agree that it would have been easy to get the birth recorded and newspaper announcements run that indicate when BHO was born. Back then a phone call or letter from the mother would not have been questioned. And it was also customary for airlines to not allow late-term pregnant women to fly, so she would have had to stay until after he was born, then fly to Hawaii. Her parents had the wherewithal to provide plane tickets, make the report to the newspaper, get the certificate for home birth, etc. Can’t prove it but it makes logical sense.
Dr Conspiracy is still going on about:
… the US Department of State said:
To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obama’s father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied.
***
Denying an allegation doesn’t mean very much.
But I did guess this would happen, I mean as far as them “denying” that these records exist.
Great post. Worth seeing again in roman. :)
Passports in the 1960’s or so were good for 3 years and could be renewed for an additional 2 years, There is block in the passport to show it had been renewed (or not). Those passports had an issue date in them but no expiration date but an Aviso below it:
In the passport it says (with an arrow pointing to it) IMPORTANT Unless Otherwise Limited
This Passport Expires Three Years From Issue Date
If Renewed, It Expires Five Years From Issue Date.
a note it also had a place to mark wife and minors.
Thank you.
My last two have been valid for ten years. The ones before that were only valid for five years. The passports my kids got when they were less than 18 years old were also only valid for five years.
ML/NJ
ping for later
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