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Officials kill grizzly bears to head-off lawsuits before they arise
Bear Attack Examiner ^ | July 31, 2010 | Dave Smith

Posted on 08/01/2010 8:58:12 AM PDT by george76

Wildlife officials have killed a grizzly bear in Wyoming and a grizzly bear in Montana to head-off potential lawsuits.

The Montana grizzly killed and partially consumed Kevin Kammer at a Gallatin National Forest campground near Cooke City, Mont. on July 29. The Wyoming grizzly killed 70 year-old botanist Erwin Evert on June 17 on the Shoshone National Forest near the East Entrance of Yellowstone National Park.

The circumstances were quite different, but the decision to kill the bears was undoubtedly influenced by a 1996 court case over the terrible bear mauling of 16 year-old Anna Knochel at a U.S. Forest Service campground near Tucson, AZ. She was mauled by a bear that had recently inflicted minor injuries on another girl. Knochel and her family filed a $15 million lawsuit against the State of Arizona (Arizona Game & Fish Department) and the Forest Service.

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To: Carry_Okie

“Sovereign Immunity” didn’t keep a 2.5 megabuck award from being paid, so who owns an animal IS responsible for its acts, occasionally, when the Gods are so inclined.

However, when a jury hears about egregious negligence being involved, things change.


81 posted on 08/01/2010 8:12:35 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: jazusamo
I’ve never heard of geese, ducks or noise from an airport killing humans.

Please feel free to let me know where I claimed that.

82 posted on 08/01/2010 8:58:55 PM PDT by SloopJohnB (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~~ Geroge Orwell)
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To: Katya

I was thinking that the families were going to sue the bears?


83 posted on 08/02/2010 5:58:12 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Eaker
He also wrote that there was no valid use for "black rifles" and got fired.

Pun intended? There I go again... shootin from the hip.

84 posted on 08/02/2010 6:04:57 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: calex59

signing a waiver would do nothing.... Lawyers famously work around them. I am however surprised they don’t have signs warning you enter at your own risk.


85 posted on 08/02/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya
signing a waiver would do nothing.... Lawyers famously work around them. I am however surprised they don’t have signs warning you enter at your own risk.

That's is more or less what I am saying, signs and warnings that you are not going into a cutesy Disney world but into a real life world full of vicious animals that will kill you and eat you if they get the urge.

To expect people to enter a wilderness full of grizzlys without the means to defend themselves from them is no less than murder, and to not warn them that this could happen is gross negligence.

The last time I was in Yellowstone, I watched a bunch of Japanese tourists walk down towards a Grizzly that was lying behind a log with only it's head showing. I tried to warn them that the bear was dangerous but they wouldn't listen.

When they were within about 50 yards of the Grizzly the bear stood up, roared and flipped the log like it was a match stick, the log flew into the air and the Japanese flew back up the hill into their waiting vehicles. A lesson well learned with no deaths or injuries but it could have been so much worse.

On the same visit a Japanese tourist was killed while trying to put his arm around a bison so his wife could photograph him with the Buffalo. Didn't work out well, but I am sure the wife got many exciting photos of the event.

86 posted on 08/02/2010 9:32:42 AM PDT by calex59
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To: SloopJohnB

You didn’t and I should have worded it differently. However your thing about humans invading their habitat is bunk.

We should certainly have the right to protect ourselves if attacked or threatened by any predator whether it be in a National Park, on fed or state land or in our own backyard.

Predators are increasing in numbers for various reasons but the silliest reasons are reintroduction and classifying some as endangered species.

I’m not for killing them off but they have to be controlled and the best and most economical method is by managed hunting.


87 posted on 08/02/2010 9:56:01 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ditter
Being mauled by a bear would be one of the worst things I can think of. The wounds would get horribly infected no matter how they cleaned them. The recovery would take a long time.

Jack O'Connor relates a tale about a guy named Field Johnson that was mauled. He did the "play dead" thing, but the grizzley wasn't far off. Johnson got up after what he thought was a reasonable amount of time. Bear went berserk and mauled him again and buried him. Johnson survived, but went insane. And wounded black bears are supposed to be worse. They don't so much maul you, as tear you into small pieces.

88 posted on 08/03/2010 11:58:26 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
...as they can climb trees?

Grizzley's can't climb trees.

89 posted on 08/03/2010 12:00:55 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: TYVets
Personally I prefer that my great grandsons can play in my yard without a grizzly wandering by.

But they're great for making sure your sister isn't bitten by a moose.

90 posted on 08/03/2010 12:09:50 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: gundog

On one of our bear hunts in Canada, we had an Indian guide. He said his wife had been attacked years before. The bear attacked her, chew on her while she played dead. Then the bear buried her with dirt, sticks and rocks. She waited a while and got up and walked home. Her wounds took something like, 7 years to completely heal.
After that she moved into town.

That afternoon my husband shot a 1000 lb grizzly.


91 posted on 08/03/2010 12:13:44 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: gundog
"Grizzley's can't climb trees."

I always thought so too but lots of pics of Grizzlies in trees are showing up on the Internet.

92 posted on 08/03/2010 12:14:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Little ones. There’s some adaptive value to being able to climb so as not to be eaten by bigger bears. Makes for some great photography...the guy filming a grizzly right at his bootheels.


93 posted on 08/03/2010 12:18:49 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: gundog

I thought they could. Am I mixing them up with black bears and/or brown bears?


94 posted on 08/03/2010 1:51:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Blacks climb very well. Brown and grizzly cubs can climb, so it’s probably just as well that the big boars can’t. Typically, if a big grizzly sees something it wants in a tree, it’ll try to push the tree over.


95 posted on 08/03/2010 2:09:08 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: gundog

We have had numerous black bear sightings in this area. I’m pretty sure we have a black bear or bears in our yard. It is beginning to concern me.


96 posted on 08/03/2010 2:15:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I should have said I’m pretty sure we have had a black bear or bears *visiting* our yard.


97 posted on 08/03/2010 2:16:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: george76
I heard the one that took the guy out of his tent, was a female with three cubs.

They said the cubs showed signs of malnutrition.

With three cubs to feed, sounds like she couldn't supply enough food so went for an easy target.

98 posted on 08/03/2010 2:18:47 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: trisham

Odds are, they’re afraid of you. That said, sometimes the odds’ll get ya. Personally, I’d shoot ‘em if i saw ‘em. Or you can eliminate whatever is attracting them.


99 posted on 08/03/2010 2:20:25 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: gundog

It’s the bird feeders, I believe.


100 posted on 08/03/2010 2:28:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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