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Lawsuit Says Student Raped a Second Time After Public School Used Her as ‘Bait’
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Posted on 08/09/2010 6:48:11 PM PDT by geraldmcg

All our young lives we’re taught to seek out the authorities when we’re in trouble. For young women who are victims of rape, this includes reporting the crime in the face of one’s own personal shame and agony to seek justice where it is due and prevent the perpetrator from raping again.

In a suburb of Pittsburgh, a startling lawsuit turns this conventional wisdom upside down. And, according to high-profile criminal attorney, Rene Sandler, no matter how the suit plays out, it reveals a disturbing lack of judgment on the part of those authorities we’re taught to trust.

The suit alleges that when a female student at Upper St. Clair High School (pictured) approached a teacher about a boy who had forcibly had sex with her after school, on school grounds, USC’s principal concocted an unusual idea.

Instead of connecting the girl with police, or even taking the teacher’s offer to walk the girl to her bus every day, the suit says the principal wanted the girl to continue roaming the grounds after school in a sting operation that would draw the boy out under security-officer surveillance.

The result? The boy took the ‘bait.’ But, because security lost track of him and the girl, he succeeded in raping her again.

A court filing on behalf of the school district revealed doubt on the part of the principal that the sex wasn’t consensual, and that he didn’t believe anyone was in danger. Instead, his objective was to put a stop to students having sex on school grounds.

Either way, Sandler says this case is “wrong on so many levels.” With any doubt at all, the strategy of the principal and security officers was beyond irresponsible. “Using a rape victim, even a self-proclaimed rape victim, as ‘bait’ to catch the alleged rapist violates all social and moral standards.”

Having established that, Sandler goes on to be a harsh critic of the tactics as well. “I think it speaks to the ineptitude of the authorities,” she says. “the lengths they will go to for cases beyond their competence. What happened to school officials and police officers walking the beat, per se, and staying connected to the public they serve in order to keep their finger on the pulse of the bad guys?”


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: arth; attorney; bait; lawsuit; moralabsolutes; rape; renesandler; sandler; school; student

1 posted on 08/09/2010 6:48:15 PM PDT by geraldmcg
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To: geraldmcg

That’s a nice looking school building. That girl is going to own it.

Utterly unbelievable.


2 posted on 08/09/2010 6:52:32 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: geraldmcg

Unreal. Was there no attempt to get DNA samples off this girl in a hospital?


3 posted on 08/09/2010 6:53:39 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: geraldmcg

They ought to do a brain scan on that Principal to see if he has one.


4 posted on 08/09/2010 6:56:24 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: geraldmcg

Where is the story of the criminal case?


5 posted on 08/09/2010 6:57:01 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Isn't enough always enough?)
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To: metmom

Hard to classify this one but it seems a reason


6 posted on 08/09/2010 6:58:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: metmom

ping


7 posted on 08/09/2010 6:58:43 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: antidemoncrat
They ought to do a brain scan on that Principal to see if he has one.

If I were the girl's father the principal would not have one.

8 posted on 08/09/2010 7:00:06 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: geraldmcg

Please tell me we’re talking about the ex-Principal at this point.


9 posted on 08/09/2010 7:02:29 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

If I were her father, the principal wouldn’t have any balls either.


10 posted on 08/09/2010 7:02:39 PM PDT by RockinRight (Outrage does not make the law.)
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To: RockinRight
If I were her father, the principal wouldn’t have any balls either.

If you were the girl's father, you would have known if your daughter was raped the first time, and you would have known if she was roaming the school grounds.

11 posted on 08/09/2010 7:04:00 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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Just when you think you've heard it all, some public school system comes along and outdoes itself.

I just can't wait to see what the public school defenders do to spin, excuse, or justify this one.

What a moron......

12 posted on 08/09/2010 7:04:38 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think there is more to this story.


13 posted on 08/09/2010 7:04:59 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: antidemoncrat
They ought to do a brain scan on that Principal to see if he has one.

Why waste the money? I'd say that he has established that he doesn't without a doubt.

14 posted on 08/09/2010 7:06:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: geraldmcg
My child has a cell phone, and has been repeatedly instructed to use it to contact me first, and has been trained by experience not to blindly trust any school official to act in her best interest.
What id “good” for the school is not necessarily what is right.
15 posted on 08/09/2010 7:07:05 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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ping


16 posted on 08/09/2010 7:07:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: geraldmcg

Pop-psychology. What was this principal thinking?

When you unhinge the social sciences from God this is the result.

“To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.” - T. Roosevelt


17 posted on 08/09/2010 7:10:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: geraldmcg

This is in one of the most affluent areas of Pittsburgh. The local media has been relatively mum on the story, too.


18 posted on 08/09/2010 7:12:38 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: metmom; TigersEye

I am not shocked by anything that concerns public schools anymore. The moron principal IMO aided the rapist & where were the parents? Did they even know of or approve this asinine idea? I would be suing everybody I could. Or the rapist & the principal & school security would face Sassy’s daddy. It wouldn’t be pretty. Actually I think I might do a better job on them. An angry mother can wreck havoc when her child is hurt.


19 posted on 08/09/2010 7:21:01 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn..........^..........)
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To: 1010RD
Pop-psychology. What was this principal thinking?

Something along the lines of "If this is handled in the school, there won't be any bad publicity".

If the police are never notified, there is no crime. There is no scrutiny. There are no questions.

Sure, a student here or there may be crippled physically and mentally for life. But that's all secondary to the amount of paperwork the principal would have to fill out if the authorities were called. Certainly, you can see the dilemma. /s/

20 posted on 08/09/2010 7:33:49 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Just where does his lying mouth stop and his awesome hair begin?)
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To: mountainbunny

Possibly, but the story indicated that the principal didn’t believe the sex wasn’t consensual. That makes it even sicker. He may be a voyeur or he let his pop psychology get the best of him.

Terrible decision maker - dumb, low moral standards, and paid a mint.

Sounds like government work.


21 posted on 08/09/2010 7:38:36 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: mountainbunny

For some bizarre reason, crime on public school campuses is rarely reported to the police and action is seldom taken unless the parents push for it themselves.

There’s tons of theft in the school district in which we live and whenever the kids complain, the school tells them to fill out a report, chew the kids out for not locking their stuff up, knows who the perps are, and does NOTHING about it.


22 posted on 08/09/2010 7:51:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mountainbunny

I don’t know why schools administrators seem to think that they are above the law or outside the law, or that they don’t have to follow ordinary legal proceedings when dealing with lawbreakers, but they act as if they are sovereign and not bound by the laws that apply to the rest of this country and society outside the public school system.

They’re sanctuaries for criminals, who only get rewarded for their criminal behavior by continually getting away with it and everybody knows it, and everyone knows that everyone knows about it.


23 posted on 08/09/2010 7:54:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“knows who the perps are, and does NOTHING about it.”

Dollars to donuts, the perps are members of a “protected class”. If so, the Puklik Scruel officials will do as little as possible, lest the “Da’t Rasis’! cry occur on their watch.


24 posted on 08/09/2010 8:15:35 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: metmom

This case is a new angle on an old rape case, with this new wrinkle popping up completely unexpected. Right now the only info in the Pittsburgh media is from the lawyer. One can imagine that the school district is restricted in what they can say at this point. BTW, the school district is one of the ritziest in the South Hills suburban area - full of liberals who voted for Obama.


25 posted on 08/09/2010 8:24:04 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: GladesGuru

We live in a tiny town where everyone knows everybody else.

The kids who aren’t related to each other might as well be, they know each other so well.

We do not live in a very ethnically diverse community, however, it is political. If your parent works for the school district, you’re in. Lots of perks and awards, and protection from consequences.


26 posted on 08/09/2010 8:27:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ciexyz

It reminds me of the webcam case. That was also a ritzy school district.

The poor ones just have the run of the mill kinds of crime. This kind of rocket fuel grade stupidity seems to be inherent in rich districts.


27 posted on 08/09/2010 8:29:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: geraldmcg
She wasn't the only one. The suspect is apparently a serial rapist and is implicated in 5 cases.
http://kdka.com/school/Upper.St.Clair.2.760814.html
28 posted on 08/09/2010 8:41:48 PM PDT by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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To: geraldmcg
What I cannot believe is that the school thinks the Principle having his doubts as to if the sex was consensual made it all OK.

Well she probably wanted it anyway?

Really?

29 posted on 08/09/2010 8:44:20 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: geraldmcg

Public school is child abuse, no public school employee is innocent.


30 posted on 08/09/2010 9:07:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

This is in one of the most affluent areas of Pittsburgh
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Most of these school outrages are in schools that would be considered “good”. Yet...conservatives persist in insisting that their child’s schools is “different”.


31 posted on 08/09/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

This is in one of the most affluent areas of Pittsburgh
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Most of these school outrages are in schools that would be considered “good”. Yet...conservatives persist in insisting that their child’s schools is “different”.


32 posted on 08/09/2010 9:14:22 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Polynikes
Reading the link you posted, the boy is a dangerous and violent pervert. The Principal's actions were clearly criminal in aiding and abetting multiple rapes. The parents should take him out and hang him.
33 posted on 08/09/2010 10:06:04 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I’m missing something here.
Read the article from this link-
http://kdka.com/school/Upper.St.Clair.2.760814.html
and that the perp was 14 for the first attack—
5 girls raped..
1 twice-
where the hell were their parents and WHY woud you continue to send your victim daughter back to that school ?
and why didn’t at least 1 parent out of this group go to the police ?

something’s wrong here.


34 posted on 08/09/2010 11:09:51 PM PDT by catroina54
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To: bigbob

USC is one of the wealthiest suburbs of Pittsburgh. It is a nice school, I still am shocked this happened there, or anywhere for that matter. You are suppose to call the police, report the incident. This was plain stupidity on the teachers part.


35 posted on 08/10/2010 4:52:41 AM PDT by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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36 posted on 08/10/2010 5:21:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: geraldmcg

Quick! Someone call Obama’s “safe-school” czar!


37 posted on 08/10/2010 5:25:52 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: metmom

Wow, I know people who live in Upper St. Clair. There’s a “but MY school is different!” place if EVER there was one.

I just can’t - forget what Dad would do, if something like this happened to my daughter I’D be in there with the gun.


38 posted on 08/10/2010 5:34:09 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Bare hands would work and be much more satisfying.


39 posted on 08/10/2010 6:43:44 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

No, I might not have a chance to finish things with my bare hands.


40 posted on 08/10/2010 6:54:17 AM PDT by JenB
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To: metmom
Just when you think you've heard it all, some public school system comes along and outdoes itself.

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You got that right.

41 posted on 08/10/2010 10:13:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JenB

If you start with the right places on his anatomy, and you can’t finish, he will at least live to regret it.


42 posted on 08/10/2010 10:35:16 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: geraldmcg; metmom
Fox News is now reporting on this story.

A prestigious Pennsylvania public school is defending itself against claims it mishandled a case involving a high school student accused of sexually assaulting several female students. The Upper St. Clair School District says the civil lawsuit is “without merit” and had posted a letter to concerned parents about the case -- which has since been taken down. Attorney David Barton -- representing two of the 5 girls and some of their parents -- says the school knew his clients were in danger and set one up as “bait” in a sting operation.

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The district countered that they could prove that that there was no rape and filed a motion for summary judgment, which asks the court to decide that available evidence supports a decision in their favor.


How are they going to "prove that there was no rape"? This is getting creepier by the moment.
43 posted on 08/10/2010 2:47:53 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: massmike
Quick! Someone call Obama’s “safe-school” czar!



"I hope you used a condom."
44 posted on 08/10/2010 2:50:02 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: geraldmcg

Will be hushed up quickly. The administrator in question will be moved across town, and the parent’s silence paid for or intimidated.


45 posted on 08/10/2010 5:02:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Sopater

FoxNation.com picked up our story from WebToday and has been reporting it. They gave us the original credit on their site. —Jerry


46 posted on 08/11/2010 9:38:58 AM PDT by geraldmcg
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To: massmike

When it comes to public socialist schools, the phrase ‘safe schools’ is an oxymoron.


47 posted on 08/11/2010 9:39:51 AM PDT by geraldmcg
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To: geraldmcg

That’s certainly good news. I hope this doesn’t die quietly on the vine.


48 posted on 08/11/2010 10:19:07 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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